Atheist. Rapper. Homophobe. Should the “atheist movement” withhold support?
September 17, 2009
Self-identified "atheist rapper" Charlie Check'm is relatively new on the scene. I was first introduced to him through a few self-promoting e-mails he sent in February announcing a "Hot New Atheist Performer":
Hi, I'm informing you about a hot new Atheist rapper who has music that has the potential to crossover to the mainstream media…This is a Good way to turn Atheists views into "cool" views.
I'm informing you because if you know of any Atheist friendly radio shows, tv shows, magazines, newsletters, or ect. I would like to be a guess and tell a story and have a few songs played or even perform if it's a tv show or if it's magazines or newletters, I would like an article about the music.
...I need as much as support I can get from Atheist organizations. The purpose of my music is to promote Atheist views and improve the image of Atheists
I did a quick YouTube search and found the song "Roll with an Atheist"—it sounded like interesting stuff, not as skilled as some music out there, but decent nonetheless. I sent a friend request on Facebook to stay on top of news.
That's all I thought about it, until last week. At some point I saw an update from Charlie on my Facebook wall that said,
Advantages of being homophobic: Befriending faggots is possibly inviting uninvited come ons. Homophobia scares off dykes and faggots. Some dykes and faggots prey on straight people. Gay friendly straight people are homos main targets. Why invite uninvited come ons?
Huh, I thought. Maybe I read that wrong.
But a couple of days later, I saw another status update from Charlie: "new song "NO GAY MARRIAGE"".
That's when I decided a little more investigation might prove worthwhile.
Well, I checked out his main website and listened to a few song snippets. Besides the aforementioned song titled "No Gay Marriage" (which begins with the lines "Something's wrong with your brain, why won't you just admit that something's wrong with your brain..."), there are songs called "Christian and a Homo" and "Dyke Chick". I won't go into detail at the moment about my opinion of the viewpoint expressed in these songs. Let's say for now that I strongly disagree with the message.
But now I was faced with a dilemma. Should I defriend Charlie on Facebook, since I didn't want it to be implied that I support his views in any way, or should I maintain the weak Facebook relationship we have because it's at least worthwhile to keep tabs on his postings? I decided to throw the question out publicly to my Facebook friends along with a link to Charlie's site.
The response was quick and passionate. This one sums up the views pretty well: "Wow. I would drop-kick this clown off my list so fast....."
One person alerted me to the fact that Charlie Check'm had already been banned from the social networking site Atheist Nexus , "[not] for his views (as atrocious as they are) but rather for the hateful way in which they were expressed and related troll-like behavior." (More on this below.)
That could've been the end of it, but I hadn't yet defriended Charlie on Facebook. And at some point he decided to chime in with a response to the comments:
I'm bored so I think Ill just fuck with you faggots for a while. Homophobia scares off faggots and dykes which is a good thing. It doesnt matter if I'm really a homophobe or not. What's important is that faggots and dykes think I am. I don't want to worry about a faggot pretending to be my friend when he secretely just wants to suck my dick. I want to make sure my friends are TRUE friends and not horney ass faggots. It's simply inappropriate…I just don't have much in common with faggots. Faggots think about sticking their dicks in men shit holes and I think about sexy women. I talk about women a lot and I know faggots wouldn't be interested in that.
A later comment:
but I can appeal to lots of Christians who are smart enough to know a MALE IS SUPPOSE TO HAVE A MALE'S BRAIN. So you faggot and dyke atheists are suppose to be smart but you don't even know that penises and shit holes don't go together...Now that's some nasty ass shit. So Pro-faggot Atheists can see that God believers are delusional but they can't see a dyke bitch is crazy when a dyke bitch claims to not like men but finds a woman who DRESSES LIKE A MAN, TALKS LIKE A MAN, WALKS LIKE A MAN, EVEN WEARS A FUCKIN STRAPPED ON FAKE DICK TO TRY AND TO BE A MAN. I'm a strong Atheist and dykes and faggots are crazier than God believers.
I'll spare you the further comments.
I mentioned that Charlie had been banned from Atheist Nexus already. According to an article on examiner.com , he had also been invited to perform at an Atheist Nexus-sponsored "Live Dance Party" at the Atheist Alliance International convention in October, but the invitation to perform was revoked. The article reports Brother Richard of Atheist Nexus saying, "While he is free to hold whatever views he chooses, he cannot represent Nexus in any form...While most of his statements were simply ignorant and prejudiced, there were a few that were clearly bigoted and hateful. Even when others tried to show him the error of his ways, he ignored their points and became even more repugnant."
That same article says that Charlie responded on MySpace with the following:
I'm an Atheist rapper/activist. The pro-gay Atheist members at Atheist Nexus know this and they KNOW my music is good for Atheists and they KNOW I fight for Atheist BUT THEY DON'T CARE. If they don't care about the fight for Atheists, they don't care about atheism. They only care about their gay agenda.
Which brings me to the question I asked at the start: Should atheists, and those involved in the "atheist movement" (which overlaps the humanist, skeptic, freethought, etc. movements), be concerned if an avowed advocate for atheism expresses such views? Should atheist organizations withhold support, and individual atheists who disagree turn their backs?
Another question: If someone does not rely on tradition or religious authority to form ethical views, are there any good reasons (besides "I find it yucky") to be so virulently homophobic?
I will also follow up on these issues in a future post. I have pretty strong opinions on this, but I am also curious to see what the readers of this blog think.
(Disclaimer: These are, of course, my own views; they do not necessarily represent the views of the Center for Inquiry nor of its affiliated organizations.)
Comments:
#102 GregB (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 8:05am
Greydon Square was arrested and apologized.
(Though I’m not here to defend him.)
Just to qualify the difference here… There’s a big gap between one on one beef and the generalization that a large group of people are inherently “malfunctioning”
I’m not saying one is worse than the other… but they are indeed both detestable.
#103 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 8:22am
Greg,
What you call “generalizing” is simply telling the TRUTH about gay people. Why is this even an issue?
There’s EVIDENCE that female’s and male’s brains’ development differs by the Sequence in which they develop among other things such as developmental pathways.
There’s also evidence that gay people’s brains have functional similarities to the opposite gender.
Scientists don’t know if the differences exist at birth.
so homosexuality HAS to be due to brain malfunctions considering the definition of “malfunction”
There’s evidence that homosexuality has some environmental influences.
Greydon Square was suppose to apologize. He REALLY did something wrong.
I am NOT suppose to apologize because I did nothing wrong so I WILL NOT apologize for simply telling the truth.
#104 charlie chec'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 8:43am
You said,
Choosing what they spend their money on is part of how the free market works.
My reply,
I agree and that’s why plenty people are waiting for my song “no gay marriage” to become available for purchase.
You said,
People don’t like your opinion, they don’t have to buy it.
My reply,
First of all, buying my Atheist music isn’t buying my opinion about gays. I didn’t mention gays or gay marriage on my Atheist album. The truth is, pro-gay Atheists HATE me for not supporting gay marriage and they’re putting their gay agenda over their atheist views.
Please don’t act like I HAVE to have Atheists to purchase my music. My biggest sellers are “The Barack Obama Song” and “Controlled By The Pussy”
I can probably make more money talking shit about gays anyway. There’s millions of people who oppose gay marriage so fuck ya’ll.
Atheists only shot themselves in the foot by not supporting me.
Unity always makes a group stronger. You pro-gay atheists picked the wrong atheist to fuck with. It’s not a good idea to turn against an atheist who has the potential of improving the atheist image which I had already done to a degree with my song “Roll With an Atheist”
My song “Roll With An Atheist” impressed lots of Christians because they can relate to not wanting to be judged. The comments on youtube proves that.
#105 charlie chec'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 8:45am
ATHEIST RAPPER DESTROYING YOU IRRATIONAL PRO-GAY ATHEISTS ONE BY ONE
NEXT
#106 charlie chec'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 8:55am
I have a theory.
Gay atheists probably secretly had a problem with my rap song (Roll With An Atheist) in the first place because it’s about a MAN hooking up with a WOMAN.
My lyrics in that song combined atheism with HETEROSEXUALITY. So I don’t think gay Atheists appreciated my music even before this controversy.
So all they needed was a simple disagreement from me about gay marriage to start an atheist witch hunt.
ha ha
I’m done. I would like to end this. I’ve spent too much time on this bullshit.
#107 Greg B (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 8:59am
You said,
I agree and that’s why plenty people are waiting for my song “no gay marriage” to become available for purchase…
I can probably make more money talking shit about gays anyway. There’s millions of people who oppose gay marriage so fuck ya’ll.
My reply,
Now you are getting the idea! Good luck on your new direction!
You said,
Please don’t act like I HAVE to have Atheists to purchase my music.
My reply,
When did I say that? When did I act like that? This is a conversation about why progressive atheists of your audience are leaving you in the rearview.
And here’s a hint: It isn’t all about you or the gay agenda. This is about our brothers and sisters, our friends and neighbors. I’ll choose them over you any day. I hope you are beginning to understand that this ain’t a mass conspiracy against you. Its a position you hold that others simply will not (tolerance of intolerance is tolerable). Its a deal breaker. Deal with it.
I’ll allow you the last word, cause I know how much your ego craves it.
#108 Greg B (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 9:00am
*tolerance of intolerance is intolerable
(I tried to get clever and fudged it, lol)
#109 Rhology on Monday September 21, 2009 at 10:03am
Intolerance of intolerance is intolerance.
#110 charlie chec'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 10:20am
You said,
This is about our brothers and sisters, our friends and neighbors.
My reply,
That reminds me of the black community’s response to the 3 strikes law. They opposed it because so many convicted felons were their family, friends, neighbor’s ect., so they disregarded the well being of society for the sake of the felons who they knew personally.
You said,
Its a position you hold that others simply will not (tolerance of intolerance is tolerable). Its a deal breaker. Deal with it.
My reply,
Keep in mind that some Atheists are still buying my music according to my Itunes account so at the end of the day, there will be some Atheists who secretly side with me and who will continue supporting me even though I don’t really need them. I will continue promoting my music to Atheists as well.
After all, non-bias Atheists will always be FREETHINKERS.
You pro-gay Atheists are doing what they call “group-thinking”
I’m done
#111 SKZSKZ (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 11:00am
Your friends were correct: you should have “drop-kicked his ass” before you even asked the question.
The guy says he’s atheist: good for him. He’s homophobic. That, to me, is morally repugnant. Sorry to have to use an age-old xian argument, but: Stalin was an atheist. If you have Stalin as a facebook friend, would you keep him on just because he was an atheist and famous?
Theists don’t have the monopoly on being assholes, as “Charlie Check’m” (if it is he) demonstrates very well in an above comment, and as he certainly demonstrates in his music.
But, as ever, one has to wonder.. doth the lady protest too much? Methinks that maybe “Charlie” has some.. er.. *issues* which s/he needs to work out. It certainly sounds that way. I hope he does.. and I hope he finds the strength to admit who is really is, and to find love instead of hate.
#112 Logan N (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 11:14am
“Atheists only shot themselves in the foot by not supporting me.”
LOL! “Charlie Check’m” and “improving atheists’ image” don’t go in the same sentence.
“I can probably make more money talking shit about gays anyway. There’s millions of people who oppose gay marriage so fuck ya’ll.”
It’s like he’s fucking five years old! AHAHAHA!
“Secret Christian” isn’t the first thing that came to mind for me. Secret gay is more like it. Ted Haggard deja vu. The meth and male prostitutes have to be there somewhere! *looks around expectantly*
#113 Dan (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 11:56am
Charlie Check’m, Why do you thing your Anti-gay music has anything to do with atheism? I’ve yet to hear you Atheist message in your song “No Gay Marriage” If you have other songs that support atheist then why not promote those rather than attempt you make the connection between atheism and Homophobia?
You will always be on the fringe as those who exclude will always be a minority.
#114 charlie chec'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 1:14pm
You said,
“Secret Christian” isn’t the first thing that came to mind for me”
My reply,
Don’t forget about the gay fundamentalist Christians who agree with you pro-gay atheists. So don’t have the delusion that ONLY Atheists support gay marriage. A Christian told me yesterday that I’m going to hell for making the rap song “No Gay Marriage”
You said,
Secret gay is more like it”
My reply,
That’s the very reason why homos shouldn’t raise kids. They will be quick to falsely assume their children are gay and TELL their children they’re gay. If their adopted child says, “Gay teens at my school make me uncomfortable”. Their homo parents are likely to say “well that’s because you’re really probably gay”
DESTROYING YOU PRO ATHEIST HOMOS ONE BY ONE
NEXT
#115 charlie chec'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 1:25pm
You said,
Why do you thing your Anti-gay music has anything to do with atheism?
My reply,
I never said that. My ATHEIST music has everything to do with atheism. My “no gay marriage” song isn’t my atheist music.
You said,
I’ve yet to hear you Atheist message in your song “No Gay Marriage”
My reply,
Just like I said, “No Gay Marriage” isn’t an atheist song. My song “Christian and a homo” is kind of like an Atheist song.
You said,
If you have other songs that support atheist then why not promote those rather than attempt you make the connection between atheism and Homophobia?
My reply,
First of all, the term “homophobia” is ALWAYS misused by you pro-gays because it’s the only weapon you have. Second of all, I’m not connecting atheism to “homophobia’. I’m connecting atheism to homosexuality.
You said,
You will always be on the fringe as those who exclude will always be a minority.
My reply,
That depends on the perspective of each individual. If a person compares gay marriage to sibling marriage than the answer is NO. If gay marriage is compared to racial civil rights than the answer is yes. The first comparison is more closely related to gay marriage because twin brother marriage is also a part of gay marriage.
#116 charlie chec'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 1:28pm
You said,
LOL! “Charlie Check’m” and “improving atheists’ image” don’t go in the same sentence.
My reply,
You don’t realize how many people think Atheists are fucked up in the head because they ARE supporting gay marriage.
They’re saying “it makes sense for atheists to support gay marriage because atheists don’t know the difference between right and wrong because they don’t have god”
#117 Tasty (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 1:38pm
This guy should be ignored. First and foremost he’s a sh_t rapper. If he had any talent he’d show it and not rely on a gimmick he either doesn’t understand or doesn’t truly believe in.
#118 charlie chec'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 1:52pm
The atheist community is perfect for faggots.
This is why
1. Men out number women by ten to one in the atheist community. Faggots like to be around as many men as possible.
2. The atheist community is a place where faggots can be around straight men who are willing to befriend faggots and not see them for what they are (men who think about fucking other men in the ass). They’re no barriers such as homophobia.
3. Faggots feel normal around atheists compared to gay clubs because they are intermingling with straight people instead a bunch of faggots like themselves.
4. If a faggot wants to seduce a straight man, the atheist community is the perfect place to find one. Straight atheist are more likely to say, “I’ll spend the night with you because you’re no different than me and I’m an atheist so I’m not a homophobe”
The faggot is like “I’m going to tare his bootie up”
ha ha
#119 ZJ on Monday September 21, 2009 at 1:55pm
Mr. Check’m isn’t just a homophobe—he’s a heterosexist. His claims about how same-sex parents “falsely assume their children are gay and TELL their children they’re gay” are plainly ridiculous in light of the fact that most opposite-sex parents simply assume their children are straight, and some will even try to force them to be straight. For him, this isn’t only about hating gay people. He views heterosexuals as being inherently superior.
Mr. Check’m has previously characterized gay people as sexual predators. He has described people as “weak” if they explore same-sex attractions. He’s cited NARTH, an organization offering ineffective and harmful “conversion therapy” that has been repudiated by the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association. He ignores the research in this field (he asserts that it’s invalid because, quote, “homos will cheat for their cause”) in favor of presenting his subjective opinions as objective facts.
That he would try to portray all this as an attempt to improve the standing of atheists by catering to the prejudices of religion and denigrating gay people simply confirms how fundamentally repugnant his perspective is.
#120 charlie chec'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 3:10pm
You said,
Mr. Check’m isn’t just a homophobe
My reply,
Taken a position on an unpopular homosexual issue (unpopular to homos) doesn’t ALWAYS have to stem from unreasoned fear and antipathy. Once again, another homo misuses the word “homophobe” because it is the only weapon they have.
You said,
—he’s a heterosexist. His claims about how same-sex parents “falsely assume their children are gay and TELL their children they’re gay” are plainly ridiculous in light of the fact that most opposite-sex parents simply assume their children are straight, and some will even try to force them to be straight.
My reply,
Being the fact that there’s evidence that homosexuality can be caused by environmental influences and the brain development of genders differ by sequence, it wouldn’t be wrong to tell a girl that she has a proper functioning brain. Being the fact that a girl is suppose to think like a girl, there’s absolutely nothing wrong with trying to convince a girl to think like a girl. If she is still comes out gay, at least the parent tried.
On the other hand, telling a boy that he has brain functional similarities to girls without evidence IS wrong being the fact that kids can become what they are taught they are.
You said,
For him, this isn’t only about hating gay people.
My reply,
This is what zj is doing.
In order to hate me and justify it, they have to have a reason. What reason do they use? They say “HE HATES US” which is a lie.
So they LIE and accused me of hating them to have grounds to hate me. I simply think gay people have brain malfunctions. That is not an indication of hate just like saying a bipolar person has a mental disorder isn’t an indication of hate.
You said,
He views heterosexuals as being inherently superior.
My reply,
I view homosexuality the same way I view schizophrenic people. It is what it is. You can call it what you want but I’m sure gay people see schizophrenia as a problem
You said,
Mr. Check’m has previously characterized gay people as sexual predators.
My reply,
but some homos are predators. They prey on straight people, especially teens. I have their quotes to prove it. check out my blog, “Gay teen predators”
#121 charlie chec'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 3:13pm
You said,
He has described people as “weak” if they explore same-sex attractions.
My reply,
Speaking from observing real life situations, I know a woman who was deeply hard broken by a man and her friend (which she didn’t know was gay) moved in for the kill at the right time and seduced her.
You said,
He’s cited NARTH, an organization offering ineffective and harmful “conversion therapy” that has been repudiated by the American Psychological Association and the American Psychiatric Association.
My reply,
You have to understand what NARTH is. All NARTH does is promote scientific studies from several and various researchers and scientists. What pro-gay people do is cherry pick which studies may be flawed but it’s wrong to downplay EVERY single study that narth has promoted.
You said,
He ignores the research in this field (he asserts that it’s invalid because, quote, “homos will cheat for their cause”)
My reply,
Some CHRISTIAN researchers claimed that prayer works and they also claim that their studies proved it. Am I not suppose to be skeptical?
So my skepticism is applied across the board, not only towards religion. So homo reseachers are ALSO subject to my skepticism.
You said,
in favor of presenting his subjective opinions as objective facts.
My reply,
There’s evidence that some PRO-GAY research done on gay parenting is flawed.
You said,
That he would try to portray all this as an attempt to improve the standing of atheists
My reply,
I don’t give a damn about how atheist feel and I don’t give a damn about my standing with atheists. Brother Richards (founder of atheist nexus) reached out to me and I basically didn’t respond because I don’t like his deceitful ways. I could have simply apologized a long time ago. I could have simply said, “I was wrong” but fuck that. I’m not wrong and I know I’m not wrong.
You said,
by catering to the prejudices of religion
My reply,
Keep in mind that some religious people support gay marriage and they even have gay churches so what you’re saying is flawed.
I simply don’t like the masses being deceived by religious people or gays.
People need to know the truth about God not existing
People also need to know the truth about gays having brain malfunctions
#122 jacob h (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 3:24pm
BOOOO HOOOOO
Chawee doesn’t wike the term “homophobe” BOOOHOOO
Charlie, you are an illiterate homophobe (tare? i think you mean “tear” - read a book sometime). Your favorite word is “pro-gay”, you think about gay people all day long, clearly you are secretly gay and scared of the truth (homophobia).
as for your “!0,000 copies sold” of your barack obama song - WOW! at a time when obamania was at its peak, you managed to sell a few songs about obama. actually 10,000 is pathetic considering the context - obamagirl’s song “i’m in love with obama” got a hundred times more hits.
I encourage my fellow rational thinkers on this board to look upChuck Check’m's albums on iTunes, and leave honest reviews.
#123 jacob h (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 3:36pm
where did the “k” in your name go? Did your name/email get banned? So even though you claim to be aloof and not care, you went to the trouble of starting another account, and even after you claimed you were done with this conversation, you just had to keep going? Wow, you are so indifferent to opinions of you, not.
#124 jacob h (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 3:44pm
i love this exchange:
————————————-
You said,
Mr. Check’m has previously characterized gay people as sexual predators.
My reply,
but some homos are predators. They prey on straight people, especially teens. I have their quotes to prove it. check out my blog, “Gay teen predators”
————————————————————
Here’s an example of that (idiotic) logic -
Q: “Is it ok to characterize black people as criminals?”
A: “but some blacks ARE criminals! They commit crimes, especially felonies. I have their quotes to prove it. check out my racist blog (BTW anyone can have a blog)”
#125 ZJ on Monday September 21, 2009 at 4:44pm
Comparing healthy and functional gay people to those who are unfortunate enough to suffer from bipolar disorder or schizophrenia absolutely trivializes what people with serious mental conditions have to deal with. That’s not just insulting gay people, it’s demeaning to people who live with disorders that are seriously life-altering and completely unlike being gay. Experiencing romantic and sexual attraction to other adults is not a “mental disorder”.
#126 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 4:51pm
You said,
Here’s an example of that (idiotic) logic -
Q: “Is it ok to characterize black people as criminals?”
A: “but some blacks ARE criminals! They commit crimes, especially felonies. I have their quotes to prove it. check out my racist blog (BTW anyone can have a blog)”
My reply,
Gay people just love flawed comparisons and that is just an example of the level of deceit they are willing to go.
First of all, I never said ALL gay people are sexual predators. I said SOME
Black people aren’t criminals by definition but gay people ARE attracted to the wrong sex by definition.
So gay people are attracted to the the same sex regardless of their prey’s sexual orientation. Therefore, gay people will be sexually attracted to straight people and in some cases, they will act on their sexual attraction KNOWING the person is straight and I have the quotes to prove it.
On the other hand, some blacks are criminals and I have the quotes to prove that. Why would a black person get offended? it’s true.
So the question is, why are gays in denial? Why are they trying so hard to dowmplay the simple truth?
It’s because many of them are outright deceitful
#127 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 4:53pm
HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS
#128 jacob h (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 5:01pm
but you defended your characterization of gays as sexual predators by saying “...some gays”, so you have no problem with people characterizing blacks as criminals, right? same justification, “some blacks are criminals”? that is your defense, so why is it an invalid argument when applied to blacks or hispanics?
also, many gays work out frequently, you clearly work out, ergo you are a closeted gay. that is the type of logic you are using.
#129 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 5:27pm
You said,
Comparing healthy and functional gay people
My reply,
How can gay people be functional if being gay by default is a malfunction?
You said,
to those who are unfortunate enough to suffer from bipolar disorder or schizophrenia absolutely trivializes what people with serious mental conditions have to deal with.
My reply,
It’s sad and it’s also sad that gay people have brain malfunctions.
You said,
That’s not just insulting gay people, it’s demeaning to people who live with disorders that are seriously life-altering and completely unlike being gay.
My reply,
You missed my whole point and you pro-gays are suppose to be rational?
My point was, admitting that schizophrenic people having mental disorders ISN’T AN INDICATION OF HATE
I was trying to get you so-called “rational” pro-gay atheists to see that admitting that gay people have brain malfunctions (rather you agree or not) ISN’T AN INDICATION OF HATE.
I was conveying the point that what I said ISN’T AN INDICATION OF HATE, Damn, I feel like I’m debating with Christians.
You said,
Experiencing romantic and sexual attraction to other adults is not a “mental disorder”.
My reply,
Okay, since you insist on bringing up “mental disorder”, I have something for your gay ass.
Several gay people are suffering from GENDER IDENTITY DISORDER
I would say roughly AT LEAST 25% of all lesbian couples consist of a person who is suffering from gender identity disorder.
Any time a woman walks. talks, eats, smells, crosses her legs, dresses, gets hair cuts, has facial expressions and mannerism LIKE MEN. That dyke bitch is suffering from GENDER IDENTITY DISORDER. ON top of all of that, some of those crazy dyke bitches walk around wearing STRAPPED ON FAKE DICKS. To make that even more fucked up, some of them even BEAT their feminine lovers like a violent man would.
EVERY transsexual is suffering from gender identity disorder
EVERY male born transsexual is nothing but a faggot gone to the extreme.
So there are faggots who can’t afford to get a sex change. If they could they would. Do you know what that means you pro-gay irrational Atheists?
That means there are several broke faggots walking around wishing they could get a sex change but can’t and they ARE suffering from GENDER IDENTITY DISORDER
#130 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 5:42pm
You said,
that is your defense, so why is it an invalid argument when applied to blacks or hispanics?ly,
My reply,
I never said it was invalid. So that’s a loaded question.
There are criminals in every racial group. Before the English settled in America, the crime rate was sky high in Europe and they were mostly all whites.
Slavery is the main thing that slowed down the white crime rate because their economy and life drastically improved due to slavery.
Not to mention the serial killers so don’t get me started on that.
My other point is, gay people by DEFINITION are attracted to the wrong sex so regardless of how bad the economy is, gay people will always have the desire to seduce a straight person because their minds are just fucked up.
On the other hand when the economy, education, values, etc are improved, it usually has a positive effect on the crime rate.
You said,
also, many gays work out frequently, you clearly work out, ergo you are a closeted gay.
My reply,
So if you adopt a child and if the child works out, you will tell the child he or she is a closet faggot or dyke? Thanks for the points you stupid faggot
You just helped my argument. A FAGGOT JUST ADMITTED INDIRECTLY THAT IF HIS STRAIGHT CHILD WORKS OUT, HE WILL TRY TO CONVINCE HIS CHILD THAT HE OR SHE IS GAY.
#131 Tasty (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 5:43pm
#132 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 5:45pm
WHAT IS IT, 20 AGAINST 1? BUT I’M KILLING THEM
WHO’S NEXT TO GET SQUASHED?
HA HA
#133 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 5:50pm
SOME HATER IS USING MY NAME PRETENDING TO BE ME for the sake of trying to make me look bad and this isn’t the first time this has happened
This is what he or she said,
“HAHAHA DISREGARD THAT I SUCK COCKS”
Now this is a perfect example of how fucked up and deceitful faggots and dykes are.
and you wonder why I choose to not associate with them.
#134 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 5:52pm
WHO’S NEXT?
#135 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 5:56pm
WHO’S NEXT?
What’s wrong? are you scared?
#136 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 6:13pm
You said,
BOOOO HOOOOO
Chawee doesn’t wike the term “homophobe” BOOOHOOO
My reply,
Now THAT’S what I call immature and childish and he IS a pro-gay atheist
You said,
Charlie, you are an illiterate homophobe (tare? i think you mean “tear” - read a book sometime).
My reply,
So you attack anything but the argument right? how bright
You said,
Your favorite word is “pro-gay”, you think about gay people all day long, clearly you are secretly gay and scared of the truth (homophobia)
My reply,
Some Atheists debate with Christians all day so I guess those Atheists are “christian-phobics” and they’re secretly Christians? That’s what some Christians say about atheists and you think just like them
Acually I put the song out on the day of the election so I missed most of the obama mania and I still sold 10,00 with no promotion and it’s STILL selling.
#137 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 6:14pm
correction
10,000 actually it was a littler over 10,000
#138 charlie fake'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 7:44pm
Rhology, you sound hot. I can’t stop thinking of your fallacy.
Now for some freestyle:
It’s time I admitted
I’m discomfitted
I try to fight this urge in me
but end up outwitted
I was ignorant
I was intolerant
and I need to get the lovin
that a woman just can’t
When I said I hated you
I really hated me
When I said I hated you
I really hated me
Ima gonna take a chance.
I got a wide stance.
I’m haggard from craig’s list
I’m needing a boys kiss
This is me now
I got to stop self-hatin
Focus on my atheism,
I’m master debatin
So now the truth is out
and now I’m out too
So now the truth is out
and now I’m out too
So now the truth is out
and now I’m out too
There, that is a hot load off my chest.
#139 charlie check''m (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 7:53pm
correction
10,000 hits, I sold about 15 copies. Made about $12
suck it FAGGOTS AND DYKES
#140 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 8:05pm
okay this is the REAL Charlie Check’m
The person pretending to be me is a perfect example of how far faggots and dykes are willing to go to help prove a point.
There are faggots and dykes doing research studies on homos who are just as fucked up in the head as the person who is pretending to be me.
and I’m suppose to trust people like that?
#141 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 8:18pm
Yeah, now I’m inspired. Can’t stop thinking about hot loads.
You know me, the name be charlie check’m
represent the big A down on the block
can you blow me, got a love for the rectum
you know i straight be cravin the cock
so what you got, big boy, I want it hot
make your delivery here to my choc-dot
yeah baby, oohh yea, right there’s the spot
touch me, reach around, make my load drop
4 men at a time, that’s just how I do
my ass, my face, and in each hand too
you cum inside, i lick up the brown goo
I ain’t trollin no more, I’m gay, true
WHO’S UP FOR SOME FUCKIN MAN LOVE?
#142 aweraw (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 8:42pm
charlie, you’re a fucking wanker, my good man. Nothing more than a fearful biggot, who doesn’t know how to deal with the world around him, as it is…
I’m going to guess that you have so much hate for gay people because their mere existence makes you consider your own sexuality, and you’re fucking terrified by what you see in yourself.
For all you vocalizing about gay people, I’m reminded of the old adage: the squeaky wheel is the one that most wants to be oiled.
p.s. I’m a hetrosexual, atheist, fan of hip hop culture, and I’d like to state that I’d sooner buy a nickleback album than listen to (let alone buy) your bastardization of hip hop (which I will henceforth refer to as ‘douche bop’)
Fuck you, ass eater.
#143 Greg B (Back Again) (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 9:02pm
I just realized that probably neither of you is Charles.
#144 charlie check'm (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 9:08pm
You said,
Nothing more than a fearful biggot, who doesn’t know how to deal with the world around him, as it is…
My reply,
First of all, I’m not afraid of faggots and dykes. I laugh at them. I think they’re comical. I always get a good laugh when I see a feminine lesbian bitch walking with male looking dyke playing the male role. I think it’s even more funny to see a faggot swishing his hips acting like a sweet bitch. I think they’re fucking nuts but comical.
Faggots and dykes make the world around me comical
You said,
I’m going to guess that you have so much hate for gay people because their mere existence makes you consider your own sexuality, and you’re fucking terrified by what you see in yourself.
My reply,
First of all, just like I stated over and over again, I don’t hate faggots and dykes. I just think something is wrong with their brains. I don’t like to hang around gang bangers either. I also don’t hang around crack heads.
I don’t think the crack heads can convince me to smoke crack. I just think they’re fucked up in the head just like I think gays are fucked up in the head.
I just don’t hang around people who are fucked up in the head, that’s all.
I love women and I dont’ see how any man could want a dick stuck up his ass or stick his dick in another man’s shit hole. Why would I want to do some nasty shit like that?
NEXT
#145 aweraw (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 9:32pm
> First of all, I’m not afraid of faggots and dykes. I laugh at them.
You see, laughter not always a sign of amusement - it’s often used to simply release social pressure. While this may not be the case for you, I reminded again that: the squeaky wheel wants to be oiled
> I don’t hate faggots and dykes.
Oh clearly - I mean the way you refer to them faggots and dykes give me an impression that you totally respect them as people. You clearly mustn’t realize how transparent you are.
> I don’t like to hang around gang bangers either. I also don’t hang around crack heads. I don’t think the crack heads can convince me to smoke crack.
LOL, good one squeeky wheel man. You speak as if gay people are only concerned with trying to convince you to have sex with them… once more you betray your thinly veiled hatred, by implying that homosexuals are concerned with nothing more than sexual thoughts - to you, they’re clearly not people who have regular human thoughts and feelings - no, they’re just sexual predators who seek to undermine your manly heterosexuality… and the reason you’re so frightened/vocal about it is that you’re threatened by this perceived undermining of your sexuality - if you were secure in it, you wouldn’t care either way… I’m pretty sure this is obvious to anyone who has read your comments here.
> I just don’t hang around people who are fucked up in the head, that’s all.
You fail to realize that YOU are fucked in the head.
> I love women…
blah blah blah - see, I don’t think about those sorts of things. If consenting adult want to do those things to each other, so the fuck what? You’re not being forced into any sexual acts with other man. Why do you even think about what gay men do to each other? Who really gives a fuck? Does your mind generate this imagery regularly, and you have to fight yourself to make the scary thoughts leave your head? Why is that?
#146 Tugboat (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 10:09pm
The clitoris is a homologous structure of the penis. In other words, the penis evolved from the clitoris. When transsexuals get female to male surgery, the clitoris will be enlarged and shaped through surgical means to become a penis. This surgery is not difficult to do. In fact, women who take too many steroids (like pro wrestler Chyna) often end up with enlarged, penis-shaped clits.
Where am I going with this?
Well, charlie, next time you finger one of the millions of hot women who want to have sex with you all night every night, remember that what you’re stroking is a tiny little penis. When you lick a woman there, you’re licking her dick.
Enjoy massaging women’s dicks, charlie.
#147 charlie check'm (Guest) on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 12:23am
you said,
You see, laughter not always a sign of amusement - it’s often used to simply release social pressure. While this may not be the case for you, I reminded again that: the squeaky wheel wants to be oiled
My reply,
I think I laugh because homos just seem twisted. I’m used to seeing men dressing and acting like men. When I see a woman trying to be a man, it’s like seeing a dog dressing like a human. It just looks funny.
I believe homos are sort of delusional regarding the straight people who they accuse of being gay. It seems like gays are wishing that certain straight people were gay so they convince themselves by taking any little detail and twisting it around to suit their own delusion.
My reply,
Oh clearly - I mean the way you refer to them faggots and dykes give me an impression that you totally respect them as people. You clearly mustn’t realize how transparent you are.
My reply
All my life, people around me called faggots “faggots” and they called dykes “dykes”. To me, it’s just what they are. I don’t hate them. I just think they have bran malfunctions. When I realize how offensive those words are to them, I stopped saying it until I noticed the faggots and dykes were trying to beat people into submission by calling them homophobes and bigots. That pissed me off so now I’m back calling them faggots and dykes but I don’t hate them.
You said,
LOL, good one squeeky wheel man. You speak as if gay people are only concerned with trying to convince you to have sex with them…
My reply,
Keep in mind that gang bangers aren’t gang banging all the time but I still wouldn’t want to be around them. Crack heads don’t smoke crack all the time but I still don’t want to be around them either. Gays don’t get any special privileges with me. They fall in the same boat with the crack heads and gang bangers.
You said,
once more you betray your thinly veiled hatred, by implying that homosexuals are concerned with nothing more than sexual thoughts -
My reply,
So does that mean I hate EVERY group that I choose not to be around? So I’m sure certain people you would rather not hang out with so does that mean you hate them? Just like I said, crack heads don’t smoke crack all the time either. It has nothing to do with that. You have built a straw man argument in which faggots ALWAYS do. You homos are so deceitful
You said,
to you, they’re clearly not people who have regular human thoughts and feelings -
My reply,
Well they’re not regular people. It is what it is. It’s not my fault that Faggots get a hard on from looking at men. How in the hell is that regular? Faggots can see someone like Halle Berry just coming out of the shower wrapped in a towel wanting to get fucked and faggots would rather stick their dicks in another man’s shit hole. That’s some twisted nasty ass shit.
You said,
no, they’re just sexual predators who seek to undermine your manly heterosexuality…
My reply,
There you go again, another damn straw man. Is that all you faggots have? You just have to cheat don’t you? I never said that.
You said,
and the reason you’re so frightened/vocal about it is that you’re threatened by this perceived undermining of your sexuality
My reply,
So you started with a straw man argument. Now you’re arguing against yourself. I never said that.
I’m not afraid of faggots. If a faggot had no intentions on coming on to me, just the thought of his brain not being attracted to beautiful women just makes me think “what’s wrong with this faggot?”. Why be around someone If I will always think they’re sick in the head? That wouldn’t be fair to the faggot. I may be nice on the outside but I’ll be thinking to myself “this is a crazy ass person”
I’m not afraid of bipolar people either but I wouldn’t want to hang out with them because I might be nice on the outside but on the inside, I’ll be thinking “this mf is a nutcase”
You said,
- if you were secure in it, you wouldn’t care either way…
My reply,
I’m secure and just like I stated before, “choice doesn’t always stem from fear and antipathy”
Why be around people who I look down on. Just like I said, just knowing that I’m hanging out with a man who doesn’t like pussy or sucking tits just will make me automatically look down on the faggot. That wouldn’t be fair to the faggot.
You said,
I’m pretty sure this is obvious to anyone who has read your comments here.
My reply,
TRULY RATIONAL people wouldn’t just make an assertion with no evidence to support it.
looks like a squashed ANOTHER ONE
NEXT
#148 charlie check'm (Guest) on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 12:28am
You said,
The clitoris is a homologous structure of the penis. In other words, the penis evolved from the clitoris. When transsexuals get female to male surgery, the clitoris will be enlarged and shaped through surgical means to become a penis.
My reply,
I think I have you faggots figured out. You faggots try your BEST to downplay sex differences because the more emphasis are put on sex differences, the more it becomes obvious that faggots and dykes are fucking crazy.
humans evolved from other species so does that mean we’re something other than humans? GET OUT OF HERE
just squashed ANOTHER ONE
NEXT
#149 Kevin (Guest) on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 1:51am
This reminds me of when people were talkin shit about Jay and Silent Bob on the internet and at the end of the movie they went to each persons house. BTW Can I stick it in your poop shoot check’m?
#150 aweraw (Guest) on Tuesday September 22, 2009 at 4:38am
> I think I laugh because homos just seem twisted. I’m used to seeing men dressing and acting like men. When I see a woman trying to be a man, it’s like seeing a dog dressing like a human. It just looks funny.
translation: Homosexuals do not conform to my limited preconception of human nature, and therefore I am bigoted against them.
> All my life, people around me called faggots “faggots” and they called dykes “dykes”. To me, it’s just what they are. I don’t hate them. I just think they have bran malfunctions…
“bran malfunctions” indeed. What evidence to you have to support this unfounded claim of brain malfunction in gay people? Again, the hate shines through. You imply that to be be gay is to be neurologically impared. You’re saying you’re better than gay people, because you don’t have a “brain malfunction”. It’s completely unfounded, and I don’t know how you can call it anything other than veiled hate.
> ... Gays don’t get any special privileges with me. They fall in the same boat with the crack heads and gang bangers.
Yeah, nice comparison too… equating gay people with violent criminal activity and drug addicts. Nice one.
No one ever asked you to give gay people any special privileges, so I don’t know why the you decided to add that into the conversation.
> So does that mean I hate EVERY group that I choose not to be around? So I’m sure certain people you would rather not hang out with so does that mean you hate them?
Of course not, but then again, I don’t go writing song about denying them specific rights either…
> Well they’re not regular people. It is what it is .... faggots would rather stick their dicks in another man’s shit hole. That’s some twisted nasty ass shit.
Right. You degrade gay folk by saying they’re less then people. Certainly, you hate is what it is… and nice imagery you provided there - it seems to be something that is regularly on your mind, based on your posting history on this article alone… who knows what other shit is out there.
There is no strawman. You’re obviously fixated on gay people for _some_ reason. I’m simply expressing my opinion that it’s because you find them threatening to your self image as a manly man.
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> I’m not afraid of faggots. If a faggot had no intentions on coming on to me, just the thought of his brain not being attracted to beautiful women just makes me think “what’s wrong with this faggot?”.
You ask that question because you’re affraid of them. You irrationally don’t trust them due to their bedroom habits and expressions of self.
> Why be around someone If I will always think they’re sick in the head?...
No one wants you to hang around gay people. That my friend is a straw man… and again, you dehumanize gay people by saying they’re sick in the head for no other reason than they’re different to you.
> I’m not afraid of bipolar people either but I wouldn’t want to hang out with them because I might be nice on the outside but on the inside, I’ll be thinking “this mf is a nutcase”
Yeah, being gay is a lot like being bipolar, genius.
> I’m secure and just like I stated before, “choice doesn’t always stem from fear and antipathy”
What about writing songs about denying people rights based on their sexuality?
> Why be around people who I look down on.
How is that not an expression of disdain?
> Just like I said, just knowing that I’m hanging out with a man who doesn’t like pussy or sucking tits just will make me automatically look down on the faggot. That wouldn’t be fair to the faggot.
I have never said you should hang out with gay people… but hey, I have an idea: let’s base our opinion of someone solely on their sexuality, and write songs about denying them rights, and discard the notion that they are on the whole functioning and productive members of society. I knew you’d like it, fuck stain.
You’re threatened, plain and simple. Fear. You’re affraid of what and who gay people are. You can make excuses all you want, but that’s the sub-text of your communications.







#101 Greg (Guest) on Monday September 21, 2009 at 7:50am
Mister Charles Check Them,
You do have the right to speak your opinion. Fortunately, everyone else has the right to speak theirs as well. Part of that means letting their money speak for them. Choosing what they spend their money on is part of how the free market works. People don’t like your opinion, they don’t have to buy it. They don’t have to book you. They don’t have to listen to you. Simple as that. Maybe you are right, maybe you are wrong, but I tell you what… it sure as hydrogen ain’t popular.
Boycotts are the masses way of giving you a collective “I disagree”