Not Islam v. Christianity, but Islam v. Humanism in Britain

July 5, 2009

Headlines from the UK collide. First, a bishop of the Church of England predicts its demise within a generation, in an article in the Sunday Telegraph [ read the   article here ].

Second, the   UK think-tank Civitas has published a report by Denis MacEoin titled     Sharia Law or ‘One Law For All’?        MacEoin reveals how sharia law courts operating in Britain are making rulings that violate the humanistic values of the Enlightenment which supply the foundations of modern codes of human rights.  The UK   National Secular Society offers a   thoughtful commentary . Also visit   One Law for All Campaign against Sharia Law in Britain .

This clash is no simple religious clash. Christianity is more and more irrelevant in Europe. Political Islam (the demand that sharia law prevail) is colliding with Political Humanism (democratic rights and liberties come first). A prediction: Democracy will prevail. After all, emerging democracy survived the last potent theocracies of Christianity during the 18th and 19th centuries. The separation of church and state will prove its enduring value once again. Basic rights and liberties cannot depend on one’s tribal/ethnic/religious membership. But don’t forget that independence works both ways: the government   cannot suppress choice of affiliation , either.






#1 gray1 on Wednesday July 08, 2009 at 2:06pm

Scary to think such courts are already operating. 

Your day in court… The charge is being an unbeliever!  So what next is the penality?

#2 Alphonsus (Guest) on Thursday July 09, 2009 at 8:42am

Um, what European “theocracies” are you referring to?  There’s a difference between a confessional state (i.e. has an official religion) and a theocracy (i.e. is run directly by priests).  Other than the situation of prince/bishops, there were very few European theocracies in the true sense of the term.

Secondly, what role will European demographics play in determining the future of European democracy?  The European welfare system is going to run into trouble as the population grays.  Also, Muslims will probably have more influence in coming decades because, compared to secular European, they are procreating at a much faster rate.

#3 Online degree on Monday July 13, 2009 at 12:57pm

Many of us don’t like the rise of Islam but we are shouted down by all the lefties. The media and the government are afraid of upsetting them and causing more terrorist attacks.Online Degree

#4 Nairb on Wednesday July 15, 2009 at 1:17pm

“A prediction: Democracy will prevail”

On the subject of Demographics
My prediction is Humanism will prvail. Democracy is only a context.
By humanism I mean atheism and agnosticism.
Europeans are almost evenly split 3 ways between Theism, Deism and Atheism. And Atheism is growing just as fast as islam but from a far bigger base.

Also muslim immigrtants do have a slightly higher fertility rate but historically it aligns with the host population in 1 or 2 generations. Also muslim countries no longer have high fertility rates. They have converged with europe overthe last 2à years. Algeria is around 2.0 while France is 1.9.
So future influence of muslims on society will at most be similar to what we see today.

#5 Nairb on Wednesday July 15, 2009 at 1:25pm

Sharia courts are a disaster. But lets be clear here. The problem is not Sharia per se.
The problem is Britain has an arbitration law that applies to Civil case law.

That is the problem. Any nutty belief system can take advantage of this loophole.

Please note this is not the result of strong pressure from muslims and the “wilting” of european culture.
It is one country with an over zealous approach to freedom and a “laissez faire” attitude to society.
I have outlined previously why I think this kind of approach is lethal.

#6 gray1 on Wednesday July 15, 2009 at 3:07pm

Should we care to recognize the combination of mass ignorance and general confusion that now appears to be increasing the level of ambivalence regarding anyone’s sense of personal, communal or even national identity, we might then suspect that the “New World Order” per se might actually be one of those good ideas that do not translate into anything practical or even desirable in the long run.

P.S.  If I could have a few more wives, perhaps my own personal fertility rate would rise?

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