Weird Bogus UFO Videos—and Their Defenders

May 10, 2011

 

When I do investigations, it is always using scientific methodologies, which means that any conclusion is tentative. I give it my best analysis based upon my years of research and experience, and if later evidence disproves my theory, I'm happy to correct my analysis and say I was wrong. I don't have a vested interest in the truth or falsity of a claim, or in debunking anything. If the evidence suggests that it's real, I'm happy to announce that.

As you might expect, people are often unhappy when I can explain an "unexplained" photograph or video. If it's a hoax, the hoaxers are not happy with me-and neither are the people who fell for the hoax. Nobody likes to admit that they were fooled, and some people twist logic in trying to defend their beliefs. I don't mind people questioning my conclusions or challenging me, as long as they get their facts and logic straight. This is the story of one guy who didn't:

In late March, folks in Lafayette, Colorado, reported strange lights in the night sky. Two eyewitnesses, Leroy van der Vegt and his son Nick, said they saw three strange, bright red lights. They hovered in the air silently, changed formation, and then moved away. Lester Valdez who also saw the lights, said they all got into a pattern and they stood in a pattern, and they all moved in a direction and then they pretty much dropped and that was it."

Some thought it was ET coming to visits; others suggested it was a top-secret Pentagon spy plane. Based on my analysis (which was reported on AOL News and elsewhere,and far too detailed to present here), I noted that the formation of the lights was consistent with independently moving objects, probably road flares tied to balloons.

Within a few days I got an e-mail from an obviously peeved reader who thought my road flares explanation was ridiculous. A guy named Ted wrote: "Road Flares tied to balloons.....Pleeese! How do you get them to fly in formation and spaced? Absurd. Then ‘The Balloons' just flew away? Perfectly spaced? Lots of holes in your ‘theory'" (quoted verbatim).

I gamely replied: "Hi Ted. Thanks for your note. What evidence do you have that the lights flew ‘in formation, perfectly spaced'?"

Ted: "From reports on line form all the observers. They were there."

Me: "Ted, You'll have to do better than that... Really? Did ‘all the observers' report this? Can you prove this? Or should I just take your word for it? Can you provide even two or three eyewitnesses who stated that the lights flew ‘in formation, perfectly spaced'? Thanks!"

Ted: "Sure, look up the current reports on line right now and add 1+1+1=3."

Me: "Which reports? There are many out there... Link?"

Ted: "Ben, you are not doing your homework! How can you say this stuff is ‘Flares' when you have not even looked at the Eyewitness Reports? I don't think you are serious, at all."

Me: "Of course I've looked at the eyewitness reports... I quote two of them in the piece. Neither of them say that the lights flew ‘in formation, perfectly spaced.' I will ask you again: Please direct me to the eyewitnesses you are claiming that reported that the lights flew ‘in formation, perfectly spaced,' since I can't seem to find them and you say that there are many. You made the claim, not me!"

Ted replied by quoting back to me verbatim the piece I'd written, putting two key phrases in bold: "'They hovered in the air, changed formation... they all got into a pattern and they stood in a pattern.' a Formation is perfectly spaced. a Pattern is perfectly spaced. I also know you won't believe any eyewitness because you are a professional skeptic!"

I re-read the eyewitness reports; they did not contain what Ted was claiming. I realized the problem was his misreading (or misunderstanding) the reports. I replied, "Ted, Where did you get the idea that a formation or pattern is ‘perfectly spaced'? You must be using some definition that no one else is using.... Look it up: A pattern or a formation is simply a repeated design, it does not imply perfect spacing. One eyewitness you quote in fact contradicts your point, saying that they ‘changed formation.' Can you explain to me how a formation can remain ‘perfectly spaced' (your words) and also ‘change formation' (eyewitness's words)? It is logically impossible; try this yourself on a table with three pennies, having the formation change while keeping it ‘perfectly spaced.' What's ironic is that I do believe the eyewitnesses, and apparently you don't!"

Ted had one final reply: "yer hopeless..." I gamely responded, "Maybe so, but I can read eyewitness reports and look up the definition of formation!"

Comments:

#1 Dropofahat on Wednesday May 11, 2011 at 10:57am

I crack up when people are astonished when they point out that three lights form a “perfect triangle” - not an equilateral triangle, mind you; just any old triangle. Somehow it can be considered “perfect” at any given time, even though it obviously changes properties as the lights move around.

Of course, the truth is it would be incredibly unusual (impossible, actually) for three object not in a straight to NOT form a triangle…

#2 Roberto on Wednesday May 11, 2011 at 11:12am

Even when witnesses DO claim something like a “perfect formation,” typically it’s just a ‘reconstruction’ of what they think they saw, and not actual fact. Read Allen Hendry’s classic 1979 book, “The UFO Handbook.” What witnesses REPORT often varies tremendously from what the object was later determined to be (for example, an advertising aircraft). Or, to put it briefly, “reliable witnesses aren’t.”

#3 Zavalix (Guest) on Wednesday May 11, 2011 at 6:52pm

I think you guys are missing the point. What we’re talking about in here is not the UFO case but how people can claim something as “true” without any real evidence at all and worse case when some people ADD something of their own creation and “back it up” with the bogus claims of other misconception of other people (as dumb as it sounds). I must admit it’s funny when these kind of people try to out-reason the skepticals (me included) with their own twisted logic and when you corner them with reasoning and basiclly showing how they contradict their own words they always ALWAYS finish with something among the lines of “You just don’t get it”, “YOU can’t be helped” or my personal favorite of all time: “You simply DON’T UNDERSTAND anything”.

#4 davekyte (Guest) on Sunday May 15, 2011 at 9:55am

For me it’s an observation of logic.

If this is intelligent beings and do not want to be seen, Why fly around with LIGHTS!  Even us lowly Earthlings can fly without being seen, just ask the Pakistan military. Want to Not be seen? Turn off the lights, want to be seen?  Don’t hide.

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