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      <title>U.S. Air Strike in Sadr City: A Picture is Worth a Thousand Words</title>
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      <published>2008-05-12T09:49:31Z</published>
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      <author><name>Balak</name></author>
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        <p>The photo in <a href="http://crankycindy.blogspot.com/2008/05/helen-thomas-is-my-hero.html"><b>this article</b></a> shows the results of a U.S. air strike in densely-populated Sadr City. The child, Ali Hussein (age 2) later died. Apparently the pro-war <u>Washington Post</u> took some flak for allowing this photo slip through the standard media filters that protect the public in the U.S. from seeing anything real about the war. (For some reason the shoes in particular are hardest to erase from my mind&#8217;s eye).
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Take this one crime; then multiply it by hundreds of thousands of deaths engineered directly and indirectly by U.S. policy in the Middle East. Then imagine how each such death would impact on immediate family members and the wider community in the affected country and throughout the Muslim world&#8230; 
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How can the Hitchenses and Harrises still seriously argue that &#8216;irrational belief in the Koran&#8217; is the real source of motiviation for rage against U.S. imperialism?
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      <title>Virginia tech gun dealer visits campus to sell guns&#45;What do you think&#63;</title>
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      <published>2008-04-24T16:30:26Z</published>
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        <p>I just came across this <span style="font-size:16px;"><a href="http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/story?id=4713258&amp;page=1">story</a></span>. I heard the dealer speaking on the news and making a comment to that &#8220;If there was even one student in that classroom with a gun at least half of the deaths could have been stopped&#8221;. I couldn&#8217;t believe my ears. This guy sold the guns to the madman that killed all these kids and his solution is to put more guns in kids hands.
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Its only my opinion, but even if his estimate is true, you would have to arm hundreds of kids on each of the three thousand campuses across the country to have saved a dozen or so lives lost to a madman once every couple of years. It seems to me that with hundreds of thousands of newly armed college students across the country we are going to have more than a few deaths from accidents and roommate or girlfreind issues that escalate from a heated debate to a gunbattle. College students aren&#8217;t exactly known for their sober restraint.
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I realize this is a hot button issue with many groups, but I don&#8217;t see how any rational thinking individual can honestly believe that putting more guns in the hands of college students is the solution to this sort of on campus violence.
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Comments?
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      <title>Revisiting Camus oncapital punishment</title>
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      <published>2008-05-09T02:41:23Z</published>
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        <p>Now that the Supremes have cleared the decks to begin the nasty business of administrative murder again, I went back
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and re-read an essay I&#8217;d put together a couple of years ago. I think it&#8217;s held up well.&nbsp; Originally published <a href="http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&amp;page=gallagher_na">here </a>by the
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Council for Secular Humanism.
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I&#8217;d be interested in y&#8217;all&#8217;s opinions.
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Small preview:
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“Every society has the criminals it deserves.”
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Camus, ‘Reflections on the Guillotine’
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My sister would have been terrified, the night her junkie boyfriend beat her to death in that filthy motel room. Terrified, and disoriented; she would have been struggling to understand what was happening to her. Beating a human being to death is apparently not an easy thing to do. According to the coroner’s testimony, it took about five minutes for her to die. What was she thinking, in those five minutes? At what point in that five-minute period did she suspect she might die in that squalid room? At what point did she know she would die there, and then?
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I would lay awake at night, for months after her death, unable to turn off the endless broken loop playing in my brain that kept repeating these questions. More than answers, I wanted revenge: hard, bloody-fisted revenge, bitter and uncompromising Old Testament revenge. More: I wanted to stand before those in power, point my finger at all the world’s Death Rows, and scream at the top of my lungs “Kill them all, and let God sort them out!” I was slowly going mad with my ache for revenge.
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But. But. Revenge is not justice.
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During the worst of my dark night of the soul, I came across an old friend who I had not thought about in years, decades: Albert Camus. I found myself re-reading his seminal essay, “Reflections on the Guillotine” (found in the closeout bin of a used bookstore). I read that tired, used old paperback copy until it literally fell apart in my hands. Camus’ demand that one must apply one’s reason to the question of ‘administrative murder’ finally penetrated my grief and my hate. Despite how I feel – indeed, because of how I feel – I am compelled to stand against the death penalty. It is important to discuss why.
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<a href="http://www.secularhumanism.org/index.php?section=library&amp;page=gallagher_na">Read more...</a>
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      <title>&#8220;Army, Flag and Cross&#8221; posted at CSH web site</title>
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      <published>2008-05-08T11:14:41Z</published>
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        <p>My piece, &#8220;Army, Flag and Cross&#8221; is posted at the <a href="http://www.secularhumanism.org">Council for Secular Humanism&#8217;s</a> site as a &#8220;web exclusive&#8221; (link on upper
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right side of page).&nbsp; I beta-tested the piece with several close friends, and the reactions ranged from &#8220;traitorous diatribe&#8221; to
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&#8220;insightful summary.&#8221; I&#8217;d be interested in y&#8217;all&#8217;s opinions. Here&#8217;s the beginning:
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<blockquote><p><i>Brilliant</i>. It was the first word that came to mind when I saw the bumper sticker. The vehicle ahead ground slowly through rush-hour traffic. I had time to study it, to think about what the thing <i>meant</i>.
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It was yet another variant on the ubiquitous American “yellow ribbon.” Across the front, on a field of yellow, were the words “Support Our Troops.” The ribbon looped back and showed a field of white stars on a blue background, evoking the American flag. The cleverest part of the ribbon was the last section, hanging below the “Support Our Troops” slogan. It was red-and-white striped, intended to carry forward the American flag theme. But a subtle suggestion of a white sunburst joined with the vertical white stripe and overlaid it with a faint horizontal white stripe. It didn’t take me more than a few seconds to realize that this was intended to be a subtle evocation of the Christian cross.
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There it was encapsulated, complete, uncut, pure: the symbolic essence of an America that has drifted far from civilization, an America that has grown very, very strange. The America that bumper sticker symbolizes has left behind the world of rational nation-states and slipped off into a sentimental realm of Romanticism.</p></blockquote>
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      <title>health insurance on PBS&#8217; s Frontline&#63;</title>
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      <published>2008-04-15T19:21:30Z</published>
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        <p>Did anyone of you enlightened people catch the very good and highly detailed program that compares how some other wealthy nations handle health insurance?&nbsp; I highly recommend it for anyone who still believes that a free market health care system is also a moral system.&nbsp; I am more ready than ever to move abroad!!&nbsp; Any suggestions for how to get either Obama or Clinton to learn what so many of us already know?????
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      <title>The most important reason to support Barack Obama for president</title>
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      <published>2008-01-08T07:01:55Z</published>
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        <p>I&#8217;m no fan of David Brooks, but his Op-Ed in todays New York Times contains a statement that may express the best reason to support Barack Obama for president. 
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&#8220;Obama emphasizes the connections between people, the networks and the webs of influence. These sorts of links are invisible to some of his rivals, but Obama is a communitarian. He believes you can only make profound political changes if you first change the spirit of the community. In his speeches, he says that if one person stands up, then another will stand up and another and another and you’ll get a nation standing up.
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&#8220;The key word in any Obama speech is “you.” Other politicians talk about what they will do if elected. Obama talks about what you can do if you join together. Like a community organizer on a national scale, he is trying to move people beyond their cynicism, make them believe in themselves, mobilize their common energies.&#8221;
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This appears to be a major development in our national history. One of the commentators on MSNBC last evening, a conservative, observed that we haven&#8217;t had anyone like Obama since June 6, 1968, the day Robert Kennedy died. At long last, we may have a national leader who can inspire us in the way Kennedy tried to do. The devolution of government into an enterprise for the promotion of self-interest, which began when Nixon was elected, may be about to be turned around. If it happens, we may yet see a restoration of idealism and citizen participation for the common good. It will be harder than it was in the 60s, but to me it is essential to the preservation of any semblance of democracy.
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      <title>Barack Obama &#45; ignoring gays and atheists&#63;</title>
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      <published>2008-04-25T07:22:41Z</published>
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        <p>I want to ask you a question. Why does Barack Obama refuse to talk to the gay media? Throughout his campaign he has been ignoring the gay media, even in important states like Ohio. None of the twelve member newspapers of the National Gay Newspaper Guild had been granted an interview with Obama, even though all of them had asked. He has only recently talked to a few gay media sources, and even then has been reluctant. And you’ll notice that he only started talking to gay news sources after he has been called out for not doing so by the Philadelphia Gay News in Pennsylvania. If you look at his willingness to talk to the gay media before Pennsylvania and after you’ll see a stark contrast. Hillary Clinton has been talking to the gay media this whole time, answering their questions and talking openly about her beliefs for gay rights. She was also the first ever first lady to go to a gay pride parade, and helped stop the amending of the constitution from banning gay marriage as a senator. And while Hillary has been touring with Elton John on her campaign, Barack Obama has been touring on his campaign with Donnie McClurkin the anti-gay gospel singer who has called homosexuality a “curse.” Another problem is that Obama only believes in civil unions for gays, but not gay marriage. He says that they are separate but equal, the same argument that racists used to keep black and white children separated in school. Hillary Clinton is the vote for gay rights. I feel that your publication should support her. Hillary Clinton supports my human rights, Barack Obama considers them a low priority.
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I should also mention that Barack also ignores atheist media sources as well, an interesting trend, ignoring minorities - ironic.
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- Tyler Young
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Federal Way, Washington
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      <title>CFI&#8217;s story on erroneous government textbook makes the news</title>
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      <published>2008-04-08T19:00:58Z</published>
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        <p>We received a call from a New York City area radio station this evening (1010 WINS) informing us that CFI&#8217;s story (see news) has hit the press. AP broke the story around 6:15 this evening. Derek Aroujo of CFI was instrumental in moving this story forward.
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<a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jbrQTGcd9yRqQEuE_5cArsv8kvcwD8VTVOE80">http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5jbrQTGcd9yRqQEuE_5cArsv8kvcwD8VTVOE80</a>
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Strike another blow for the good guys.
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      <title>&#8220;Prince of War&#8221; &#45; a review (excerpt)</title>
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      <published>2008-04-26T01:34:23Z</published>
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        <p>With all the various &#8220;pastor problems&#8221; we&#8217;ve seen recently, I thought it would be interesting to take a look at an intriguing new book
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about &#8220;America&#8217;s most beloved pastor.&#8221; In the interests of space, I&#8217;ve only posted  the intro; the full text is  <a href="http://CrustyPolemicist.blogspot.com">here</a>.
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Prince of War: Billy Graham’s Crusade for a Wholly Christian Empire</i>, by Cecil Bothwell, Asheville: Brave Ulysses Books, 2007
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“Billy Graham represents a basic kind of patriotism in this country – an unquestioning, obeying patriotism, a loyalty to the authority of the President. Billy was always uncritical, unchallenging, unquestioning.” --- Bill Moyers
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“I’m frankly sick and tired of the political preachers across this country telling me as a citizen that if I want to be a moral person, I must believe in A, B and C. Just who do they think they are? --- Barry Goldwater
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A power-hungry moral coward. A vicious racist and Jew-baiter. A man with an almost uncanny ability to always be on the wrong side of history. A craven climber and groveller at the feet of power. An “unabashed nationalist and advocate for American empire.” If Cecil Bothwell is right – and he marshals a lot of evidence in support of his thesis – then “America’s most beloved pastor” is all these things, and more. Bothwell gives us the opportunity to see the other side of Billy Graham, the man who was seventh on a recent Gallup poll’s list of the most admired people of the 20th century. Graham is a man with a history, a man who must be called to account. Bothwell lays out his bill of particulars with subtlety and skill.&nbsp; 
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<a href="http://CrustyPolemicist.blogspot.com">Read more ...</a>
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    <entry>
      <title>Lilly Ledbetter Act, H.R. 2831</title>
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      <published>2008-04-21T12:13:22Z</published>
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        <p>Lilly Ledbetter Act H.R. 2831
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Contact your senator and ask them to support H.R. 2831. It needs to be done in the next 3 days.
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H.R. 2831 would allow a woman (or man) to sue the company they work for anytime if the company
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is paying them less due to their gender. The current limit is 180 days, so if you discover you were getting f-----d by your bosses 180 days after they start, you have no rights. That is the current law.
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H.R. 2831 changes that.
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Call the senate NOW!
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866-338-1015
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