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Posted: 15 December 2007 05:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I also noticed:

All proceeds from the sale of this DVD will go to the Ayaan Hirsi Ali Security Trust (Info on the trust here).

You can watch the video for free now, but for those that were questioning whether to give to this Sam Harris initiated fund, this may give a little extra incentive.

Also, Michael Shermer sent out Harris’ appeal in an eSkeptic

Urgent Appeal for Support to Protect Ayaan Hirsi Ali

I thank my friend Sam Harris for calling my attention to a new fund recently established in her name to raise money to pay for her security. I believe that this is a great moral cause that skeptics, humanists, and believers in civil liberties and freedom of speech can and should rally behind. Normally we call for general assistance in combatting irrationality in its generic form so pervasive in our world; here is a golden opportunity to give to a very specific cause in which irrationality threatens the life of a courageous free thinker and champion of liberty. I’ve made my donation. I hope you will as well. — Michael Shermer, Executive Director

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Posted: 20 December 2007 09:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I watched it and enjoyed it, especially the first hour.

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Posted: 20 December 2007 10:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I went ahead and ordered the DVDs.  That way I have the option to pass them on to friends.

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Posted: 20 December 2007 07:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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zarcus - 15 December 2007 04:25 AM

From RichardDawkins.net - http://richarddawkins.net/

On the 30th of September 2007, Richard Dawkins, Daniel Dennett, Sam Harris and Christopher Hitchens sat down for a first-of-its-kind, unmoderated 2-hour discussion, convened by RDFRS and filmed by Josh Timonen.

They do have *.mp3 files for downloading at the sight. A number of comments tracking discussions in this forum.  Dawkins mentions that the stickiest point he has been confronted with in advocating atheism is the apparent, interesting point that the universal constants seem ‘tuned’.

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Posted: 26 December 2007 06:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Thank you for this link zarcus.  Very interesting seeing them all together exchanging ideas like that.  Quite funny to notice and compare each of their choices of beverages, and to notice Hitchens’ continuous smoking.  I would have enjoyed seeing him drinking and smoking during those Dinesh D’Souza debates a month or so ago.  LOL

It seemed to me that a couple of them had to work a bit to avoid exhibiting heavy disagreement, although I imagine there was more for them to disagree about then they let on.

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Posted: 26 December 2007 06:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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It was nice, if they agreed on everything I think they could wrap it all up in just 10 minutes… but the main and final questions, “what do you think reasonably could be accomplished (...) is there something we can engineer apart from just mere criticism (...) what with a billion dollars could we do to affect some significant change of ideas”, are important ones and they do hesitate a lot on those, hitchens even being just plain pessimistic.

The answer should be so simple… education. Just create access to it. Invest on it. With less than a billion dollars, just sponsor media channels. Give access to the great voices of secularism, atheism and humanism. We can’t blame people for their ignorance, until we go out there and start educating them. We were fortunate enough to be exposed to education and science knowledge, but if we don’t use them, we really can’t expect any change on that matter. As long as we understand the differences between education with indoctrination, we are fine. I do think it is a noble cause. Needless to say, I am not afraid of the word militant. We were exposed to the religious views for a long long time. I think it is about time for them to know a bit about how we think.

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