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Posted: 05 March 2008 07:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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Mriana - 04 March 2008 08:08 PM

You haven’t heard of Horus, Krishna, Buddha, Vishnu, etc?  big surprise  Is the only religion you have looked into Christianity?  I could explain, but I don’t want to derail the thread.

No I did not look and was not aware of any of them, relating to christianity however, approximately 12 or 13 years before I was baptized or even concieved that one day I would become Christian, I had a dream of catholic nun telling me not to worry and that “they” were going to take care of me. I had absolutely no reason whatsoever to have such dream. I didn’t have any contact with the catholics ever. Between that dream and the day I decided to get baptized, much happened. Ever since, I tried to walk many times, and just about each and every time I tried, different events would configure themselves in a way it would seem as if Christ is saying to me “you think you are going to walk, we’ll see about that!”...and nooo, christians have nothing to do with that.

Based on what evidence?

Medical science.  Ask any doctor s/he will explain it to you, if you decide to ask.

Hey, do I or what I think count for something at all? last time I checked, I am free human being not a cheep for sale!!! Hello!!!speaking about doctors, did you take time to talk to any christian doctor who happens to know lot about fast’s benefits, or checked any of the many books written about fasting? or do you like to consulte only with those who know nothing about it since chances are they have not fasted a single day in their entire life?!?!? I guess since those doctors are christians, their opinions don’t count? And why are you so “concerned” anyway? it’s not like I am demanding that you fast, I am fasting since it is my freedom thank you Jesus. MY FREEDOM!!! you do understand what that means, right?!!!??You don’t like to be controlled or have somebody push their way of doing things on you and neither do I. DO TAKE TIME TO PROCESS THAT!

You sound like you are about to have a heart attack, I suggest you calm down and take it easy.


you are jumping to so many insane conclusions i can absolutely tell how much more you know than I do and how much logic and reason you use in making sense out things. . Speaking of evidence, you didn’t meet me once, you are more than clueless about the person I am, my history, my fitness, my bacground, and here you are blabbering away much like a believer yourself.

Believer in what?  Medical science and Psychology?  That I do believe in and it is not insanity at all.  Be that as it may, I do care about people and have seen so many people fall for religious dogma that when and if they do have a psychological problem they don’t realize it and get help- sometimes with tragic consequences. I saw this even before I got a psychology degree and part of acquiring that degree was in neuro-psych.  I also know what happens in the mind when one is deprived of food (and/or sleep).  They are more susceptable to suggestions, ideas, and dogma.  This is one of the techniques cults use a lot.  Regardless, I would not point out the damage one is doing to one’s health, if I didn’t care about others.

you need to worry about yourself little darling, if you knew a better or zip, you’d read yourself and see that you are clearly stresssing over my posts as if you are about to expire. Here you are making assumption about me even the dumpest beings wouldn’t and yet, you claim to care. Quite frankly, if I were in your shoes, I’d worry about my own load and keep it at that.

Even so, you never did answer my question as to “what loving god” would want you to fast like that, esp since it can have serious health consequences?  You don’t have to take my word for it.  You can ask a physician.

you never asked such question and speaking of anwsering questions, there are points I ‘ve brought up you have never addressed. But don’t worry, I don’t expect you too, you are not the the first who manoeuvered their way around them. And Beside I never said god is the one who said I should fast, It is my choice, you understand that?!??!!I did mention that I had a liter of fluid daily during the fast, I didn’t say water, I said fluid, yet you failed to pick that, I talked about the weight loss strictly as way to gauge and measure the type of fast I’ve undergone to the reader, yet you run 350 miles an hour toward the oblivious conclusion that I did it to lose weight and that therefore I must be anorexic!!!!  Lady, you can’t even read what I write, and you claim to know. No you don’t. You can’t even read a post written in simple english language and here you are claiming to care, my ex used to do that to me, he used to contantly work to control different aspects of my life when I block him he turns around and claim it’s because “he cares”, I don’t have “a degree in psychology” but just from experience, I can confirm to you that people who obssess over other people’s lives for no reason do (I don’t know to what extent) because they cannot control their own.

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Posted: 05 March 2008 07:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Kyuuketsuki UK - 05 March 2008 01:15 AM

[quote author="Daisy"]What happened to me here, did with me being atheist.

You reckon you’re an atheist? Apparently not anymore!

Kyu

Christ got me by the neck if you foks think I am stupid because of it, I’d glamoursly wear that crown.

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Posted: 05 March 2008 08:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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Daisy - 05 March 2008 07:51 PM

You sound like you are about to have a heart attack, I suggest you calm down and take it easy.

Actually… My guess is that you are projecting, because I’m not as upset as your post reads.  Your post reads as though you are upset.

you never asked such question and speaking of anwsering questions

Yes, I did.  If you read closely you would see that I did as you that question.

there are points I ‘ve brought up you have never addressed.

Ok what were they and we’ll see, if I did or if I over looked them or if they were addressing people in general and not directly to me.

I can confirm to you that people who obssess over other people’s lives for no reason do (I don’t know to what extent) because they cannot control their own.

Or maybe they have spent time working in the psychology field.  In all honesty, I have spent a few years working in the psychiatry field.  Even so, it seems to me you are projecting many things, because I hit a nerve that’s close to home.

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Posted: 06 March 2008 01:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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[quote author="Daisy"]Christ got me by the neck if you foks think I am stupid because of it, I’d glamoursly wear that crown.

Whilst I think your claims in this thread have been based on (at best) flawed reasoning I didn’t say you were stupid, I said you weren’t an atheist.

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Posted: 06 March 2008 02:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Oh yes, does a Deity Exist, and can He/She/It be bothered with a bunch of the richest percentile on the planet?
These are indeed some of the most paradoxical questions we have to ask?

Supposedly the Deity smiles on those of the well heeled variety, who proclaim his name, and go for a weekly communion at “his” branch offices open only one day a week for less time than a movie takes.

But having studied those Deists, across the planet, one soon notes that each brand, fervently believes, in the sanctity of their own Brand.
Some actually proclaim rivals as the Demon or for the Christo’s An Anti-Christ, who apparently is similar to a Christo but Evil.

Though really such congregations are just community based tribal elders, who shepherd their flock through birth marriage death cycle, and charge more than an average sporting body.

But those voices telling you what to do or not, are nothing but your own mind probably resetting it’s basic tenant.

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Posted: 06 March 2008 04:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Mriana - 05 March 2008 08:32 PM

Actually… My guess is that you are projecting, because I’m not as upset as your post reads.  Your post reads as though you are upset.

Yes, I did.  If you read closely you would see that I did as you that question.



Ok what were they and we’ll see, if I did or if I over looked them or if they were addressing people in general and not directly to me.



Or maybe they have spent time working in the psychology field.  In all honesty, I have spent a few years working in the psychiatry field.  Even so, it seems to me you are projecting many things, because I hit a nerve that’s close to home.

projecting?????? I see you are so empty headed you had to resort to borrowing terms I used in my posts ms. degree in psychology, (....I’d gess a degree in guacomole and refried beans rather) to blabber some more. Tell me, beside assuming and drawing conclusions an autistic person wouldn’t, what else can you do ms. science? you know one of the things fast can teach you?? is self control, poise and discipline. Here’s an online dictionary if you don’t know what they mean, I am sorry I don’t waste my time with those who in order to sweep their serious problems under the rag, find nothing better to do, than stupidly assume about others while evily attacking their person, and this, without meeting the said person a single time, or even taking time to use their apparently lobotomized brain, and ask related questions b4 they open their trap and puke!!! That’s how gravely clueless. You’re the type of creature that projects a bad image of science. What waste of breath it has been.

Go see you therapist. I think you need it, as far as my fast, it’s coming along reaaaaal niiice. Also, do take some basic english classes please, if you can’t even understand english, how can you claim to have anything to do with science??!! as far as I am concerned you don’t. I’ve spoken to enough well calibrated people in that field to recognize A counterfeit when I run into one. Or am I just talking to the wind once more?!?! I guess I am huh! Well, I would have at least tried. and dont’ thank me for the lesson since you didn’t process it.
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Posted: 06 March 2008 04:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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I guess I did hit a nerve. I’m not sure why you are ranting, esp in a manner that makes no sense, if nothing is wrong, but be that as it may this thread is really off the original topic.  Since you don’t want answer the questions posed to you, then we might as well return to the original subject. Which is non-empircal evidence.

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Posted: 06 March 2008 04:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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Mriana - 06 March 2008 04:47 PM

moooomooomooo

take some english classes, will you?

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Posted: 06 March 2008 04:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Kyuuketsuki UK - 06 March 2008 01:19 AM

[quote author="Daisy"]Christ got me by the neck if you foks think I am stupid because of it, I’d glamoursly wear that crown.

Whilst I think your claims in this thread have been based on (at best) flawed reasoning I didn’t say you were stupid, I said you weren’t an atheist.

Kyu

thank you.

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Posted: 06 March 2008 05:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Mriana - 06 March 2008 04:47 PM

moooomooomooo

take some english classes, will you?

I don’t mean to sound demeaning, but in all honesty your posts have gone from hysterics to juvenile. I really feel it is time to let it go, esp if you don’t have any issues to be concerned about.

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