Did Jesus Fulfill Prophecy? 
Posted: 16 April 2008 04:37 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Excerpted from “Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ”

Did Jesus Fulfill Prophecy?
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/jesusprophecy.html

The video - http://www.livevideo.com/video/1FDF3828A6ED4FFA99BCBA6AF9D3710F/who-was-jesus-fingerprints-of.aspx

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Posted: 16 April 2008 06:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Jesus didn’t even fulfill his OWN prophecy. He believed that the kingdom of God would come during the lifetime of his followers.

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Posted: 16 April 2008 08:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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LOL, that ain’t no lie ...

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Posted: 17 April 2008 04:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Jim Jones, David Koresh, Marshall Applewhite, Jesus…
Say, wasn’t something like all this going on in a Russian cave quite recently?

Ahhh… the stuff legend are made of…

Freethinka,

Have you read this book?  How is it?

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Posted: 17 April 2008 07:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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erasmusinfinity “Have you read this book?  How is it?”

Well, in my view it’s a must have for both theists and Freethinkers. Yes, I’ve read it.

“Who Was Jesus? Fingerprints of The Christ” contains quotes from the following Christian authorities, apologists and evangelicals, as well as New Testament scholars:

John Ankerberg, Craig L. Blomberg, F.F. Bruce, William Lane Craig, John Dominic Crossan, Bart Ehrman, Norman Geisler, Gary Habermas, Josh McDowell, John P. Meier, Bruce M. Metzger, J.P. Moreland, Ronald H. Nash, Lee Strobel, Merrill C. Tenney, Ben Witherington, Edwin Yamauchi, And more!”
http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/whowasjesus.html

WWJ organized an almost all Christian bibliography. These Christian authorities, apologists and evangelicals, as well as New Testament scholars admit that when it comes to evidence for Jesus, they’ve got NOTHING.

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Posted: 17 April 2008 07:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I’ve read it and wrote a short book review on it.  It’s on my website and if anyone is interested, I can post a direct link to the review.

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Posted: 17 April 2008 07:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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AHH, it looks like she added it to her page here. I’m surprised you haven’t added it to the Amazon reviews yet.

“Acharya has done a fascinating job on her latest book as she explains all the fallacies, misconceptions, and errors concerning the story of Jesus.”

“D. M. Murdock, aka Acharya S., has done it again with her new book called Who Was Jesus? The Fingerprints of the Christ. This time she did what I always believed could be done, which is that we can take the Bible and show how it is a work of fiction. She does this by using various Christian and New Testament scholars, authorities, apologists, and evangelicals, such as Bart Ehrman and John Dominic Crossan. She shows various misinterpretations from Hebrew, Greek, and Latin, as well as, how the stories were made from blueprints of other stories and the contradictions of the Bible.

“The book starts out as a very easy read for novices and momentum builds as she goes into a deeper understanding of how the stories cannot be taken as the literal inerrant word of God, inspired by God, but rather errant and inspired by humans. She starts each chapter with quotes by well-known scholars, appreciated by most Christians, and works from there showing how their statements convey the stories as fables and no more historical value or truth than John Jakes’s North and South or Aesop’s Fables.

“As Acharya goes through Gospels she relates the story of Jesus to previous stories in the Old Testament and shows how those stories are templates for the New Testament stories. She also shows how the Gospels not only contradict each other, but also do not have the same stories or even tell them the same way, thus showing they are not actual eyewitness accounts, but rather various midrashes and rewrites of other stories.... She also uses other sources outside the Bible that point to forgeries and interpolations, by using scholars who have studied Pliny, Flavius, and others, and found in them statements that the founders of Christianity manipulated to impose the religion on the masses and make it look historical, when in fact it was not.

“Finally, her knowledge of ancient languages appears as she explains various words or even sentences that were translated inaccurately. In fact, some ancient manuscripts do not have some verses and ancient church fathers showed no knowledge of these verses or are total mistranslations. In some cases, Acharya gives a translation of some verses or statements originally in Greek or Latin, by showing both the original and the translation. Other times she shows us the mistranslated word or words and tells us the actual word in the ancient documents.

“Acharya has done a fascinating job on her latest book as she explains all the fallacies, misconceptions, and errors concerning the story of Jesus. This book shows she has put in many hours of research to assist in the many questions and inquiries concerning the contradictions, similarities to past stories, and actual or, rather, not actual historicity of the Bible. In the end, the logical conclusion is, in Robert Price’s words, there never was an actual historical Jesus, or, if there ever was, he is too buried in myth to ever find him.”

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http://www.stellarhousepublishing.com/whowasjesus1.html

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Posted: 17 April 2008 08:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Yes Mriana.  I am interested.

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Posted: 17 April 2008 01:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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OK here’s the link:  http://mrianasoriginalfiction.houseofbetazed.com/AcharyasBookReview.html It’s five paragraphs long, so it shouldn’t take too long to read.  smile

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Posted: 17 April 2008 04:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Actually Jesus did fulfill prophecy, only not in the way Christians believe. In Deuteronomy 18:17-22 God says he will be sending a prophet, but that others will also come who claim to be sent by God. God said these who “presume to speak in my name” will be put to death. When asked how we can identify these false prophets, God says “If what a prophet proclaims to be in the name of the Lord does not take place or come true”.

Jesus, in Mark 13:30, Mark 9:1, Matthew 16:28 and Luke 21:32, claims that the coming of Man, the great apocalypse, Armaggedon, then end of the world...was going to happen before all of those present had died. It obviously did not happen that way.

Therefore, Jesus was wrong in what he proclaimed in the name of the Lord and God fulfilled the prophecy by having him killed.

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Posted: 17 April 2008 05:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Thanks Mriana.  It looks interesting.  I’ll add it to my reading list, although it’s a very long list right now.

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Posted: 17 April 2008 07:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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You’re very welcome, erasmusinfinity.  smile

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