Americans seem to have been duped into thinking that Impeaching a president is some sort of extreme process that would weaken the nation when actually it is a rather straight forward process designed to ensure fairness. If Bush was to be impeached it would without a doubt make the nation stronger by showing the world that the people really are in control of their democratic republic. You would have to be living under a rock not to realize that Bush blatantly lied to the nation multiple times in order to get his war with Iraq.
Bush should have been impeached on the 9/11 issue alone. The Republicans spent over $40 million of that taxpayers dollars investigating Bill Clintons sexual indiscretions but they were only willing to allow around $600k to be spent on the 9/11 investigation. The fact that neither Bush nor Cheney would testify under oath before the 9/11 commission should have started the impeachment ball rolling. Many people say that Bush failed but did he? He still got paid, his family and friends got richer from war profiteering and he got to be a war time president without ever declaring war. The majority of Americans may see Bush as a failure but it is the American people that failed. They failed to put a stop to this runaway, criminal administration even though the tools to stop it were right there in front of them.

Wilson - 21 June 2008 07:01 PM

Americans seem to have been duped into thinking that Impeaching a president is some sort of extreme process that would weaken the nation when actually it is a rather straight forward process designed to ensure fairness. If Bush was to be impeached it would without a doubt make the nation stronger by showing the world that the people really are in control of their democratic republic.

Wouldn’t that require clear majority public support for impeachment?  Otherwise it just looks like partisanship.

You would have to be living under a rock not to realize that Bush blatantly lied to the nation multiple times in order to get his war with Iraq.

Huh?  Not even the politicized Senate Intelligence Committee report found anything like that.  That report criticized Bush for not including intelligence caveats while laying out the case for war.  The report found that Bush was supported by the intelligence community at that time in his statements of Iraq’s capabilities.  If not providing the case against what you want to do is a crime then perhaps no politician is innocent of it.

Bush should have been impeached on the 9/11 issue alone. The Republicans spent over $40 million of that taxpayers dollars investigating Bill Clintons sexual indiscretions but they were only willing to allow around $600k to be spent on the 9/11 investigation.

Huh?  The $40 million was spent by Clinton’s Justice Department through the Special Counsel’s office.  There was no special counsel in the latter case because it was under the auspices of the legislative branch, not the executive branch.  Apples, meet oranges.

The fact that neither Bush nor Cheney would testify under oath before the 9/11 commission should have started the impeachment ball rolling.

Is it a crime to testify before a commission without taking an oath?

Many people say that Bush failed but did he? He still got paid, his family and friends got richer from war profiteering and he got to be a war time president without ever declaring war. The majority of Americans may see Bush as a failure but it is the American people that failed. They failed to put a stop to this runaway, criminal administration even though the tools to stop it were right there in front of them.

What was the crime, in your opinion?

Wilson - 21 June 2008 07:01 PM

Americans seem to have been duped into thinking that Impeaching a president is some sort of extreme process that would weaken the nation when actually it is a rather straight forward process designed to ensure fairness. If Bush was to be impeached it would without a doubt make the nation stronger by showing the world that the people really are in control of their democratic republic. You would have to be living under a rock not to realize that Bush blatantly lied to the nation multiple times in order to get his war with Iraq.
Bush should have been impeached on the 9/11 issue alone. The Republicans spent over $40 million of that taxpayers dollars investigating Bill Clintons sexual indiscretions but they were only willing to allow around $600k to be spent on the 9/11 investigation. The fact that neither Bush nor Cheney would testify under oath before the 9/11 commission should have started the impeachment ball rolling. Many people say that Bush failed but did he? He still got paid, his family and friends got richer from war profiteering and he got to be a war time president without ever declaring war. The majority of Americans may see Bush as a failure but it is the American people that failed. They failed to put a stop to this runaway, criminal administration even though the tools to stop it were right there in front of them.

Layers and layers of myth underlie the American narrative. We’re at a pivotal crossroads in history. On the one hand, we could be ready finally to confront our original sin of slavery, if not genocide against the Native American peoples whose lands were taken to build the USA. On the other hand, we could retreat further into a corner, piling on additional new myths, including the idea that impeachment is to be avoided virtually at all costs. If we are into the decadent phase of our history - which all great powers have gone through - then the latter is a strong likelihood. If we have the courage and integrity as a people to rise above historical trends, we could become history’s greatest power, unique because we avoid our own decline.

You pays your money and you takes your choice. We’ll see.

We are at a crossroads - you’re right PLaClair. I’m not convinced that we have the courage, but I thinik we have become sufficiently sick of our current administration and our recent history to force a change. I hope it’s not up to florida this time. You pays your money and then hope that your choice is recognized.

Impeachment has of a President has been attempted just twice in US history.  Both times it faled.  Elecction is in Nov.  This is where the voters of the US will decide the direction of the country.  No use beating a dead horse.  The ill-concieved wars are one issue, but economic issuses including the rising cost of fuel and food as well as affordable health care will decide the election.

Gary the Human
Viet Nam vet

garythehuman - 24 June 2008 08:29 PM

Impeachment has of a President has been attempted just twice in US history.  Both times it faled.  Elecction is in Nov.  This is where the voters of the US will decide the direction of the country.  No use beating a dead horse.  The ill-concieved wars are one issue, but economic issuses including the rising cost of fuel and food as well as affordable health care will decide the election.

Gary the Human
Viet Nam vet

In other words, you’re not counting Nixon. I think you’re missing an important part of the story. It’s no answer to say that he wasn’t formally impeached. Articles of impeachment had been drawn, and they were going to be passed. That’s why he resigned.