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Posted: 28 February 2011 04:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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K.  I just figured trolls were fair game.

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Posted: 28 February 2011 04:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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dougsmith - 28 February 2011 04:23 PM

DM, I understand your annoyance but you’re also engaging in name-calling here that’s against the rules.

It won’t be long before all the members who approach me will be breaking the rules. Anger has a lot to do with that. And that’s not because of the truth I speak. It’s because you can’t understand the truth so you get angry.

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Posted: 28 February 2011 04:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Dead Monky - 28 February 2011 04:25 PM

K.  I just figured trolls were fair game.

I’m a long ways from being a troll. In fact, you people will end up being the trolls in here because of your uncontrollable anger.

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Posted: 28 February 2011 04:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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bjhulk - 28 February 2011 04:31 PM
dougsmith - 28 February 2011 04:23 PM

DM, I understand your annoyance but you’re also engaging in name-calling here that’s against the rules.

It won’t be long before all the members who approach me will be breaking the rules. Anger has a lot to do with that. And that’s not because of the truth I speak. It’s because you can’t understand the truth so you get angry.

People who come here making outlandish claims without evidence tend to be irritating. If they attempt to flood the board with similar sorts of nonsense claims and irrelevancies, much less posts that appear solely intended to rile people up, folks get angry. It’s completely understandable if unfortunate. It’s also the primary reason why trolls are generally not allowed on any internet fora, and are against the rules here.

If you want to argue and debate, that’s one thing, but it must be done based on evidence and reason. (That’s what arguments are; otherwise it’s just yelling). While proselytization per se is not against the rules, empty and/or repetitive claims-making without any serious attempt to develop points or engage responsively is against rule 3(h).

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Posted: 28 February 2011 04:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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bjhulk - 28 February 2011 04:32 PM

I’m a long ways from being a troll. In fact, you people will end up being the trolls in here because of your uncontrollable anger.

I believe your rapid posting here is based on your own anger towards those who think differently than you. That’s understandable since you appear to have no actual reason to believe anything you’re posting here. All you have is blind obedience. Of course, you are free to believe anything you want, but it’s odd given your actual lack of justification to attempt to put that nonsense in front of an audience of people different from yourself. In fact, it’s pretty aggressive: we’re to take your word for it all, or it’s the highway.

Hmmm ...

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Posted: 28 February 2011 04:46 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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dougsmith - 28 February 2011 04:38 PM
bjhulk - 28 February 2011 04:31 PM
dougsmith - 28 February 2011 04:23 PM

DM, I understand your annoyance but you’re also engaging in name-calling here that’s against the rules.

It won’t be long before all the members who approach me will be breaking the rules. Anger has a lot to do with that. And that’s not because of the truth I speak. It’s because you can’t understand the truth so you get angry.

People who come here making outlandish claims without evidence tend to be irritating. If they attempt to flood the board with similar sorts of nonsense claims and irrelevancies, much less posts that appear solely intended to rile people up, folks get angry. It’s completely understandable if unfortunate. It’s also the primary reason why trolls are generally not allowed on any internet fora, and are against the rules here.

If you want to argue and debate, that’s one thing, but it must be done based on evidence and reason. (That’s what arguments are; otherwise it’s just yelling). While proselytization per se is not against the rules, empty and/or repetitive claims-making without any serious attempt to develop points or engage responsively is against rule 3(h).

Why are you making excuses for you and your friends? You can’t understand something so you get angry. What kind of childish behavior is that? All you have to do is avoid my threads and then you’ll be okay. Does an alcoholic become an alcoholic because his friends are pouring alcohol down his throat? You pretend this forum is yours but I know it’s not. It’s open to anyone who wants to join and share. I have more threads in here than anyone else and I just signed up. This place needs more action because it’s almost dead like most Christian forums. Do you know why forums die? They have too many rules and become socialistic. They become bored because everyone is the same. I’m here to provide something new and different and all you do is complain. There’s always one kid in the sandbox who complains about not getting his way.

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Posted: 28 February 2011 04:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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dougsmith - 28 February 2011 04:41 PM
bjhulk - 28 February 2011 04:32 PM

I’m a long ways from being a troll. In fact, you people will end up being the trolls in here because of your uncontrollable anger.

I believe your rapid posting here is based on your own anger towards those who think differently than you. That’s understandable since you appear to have no actual reason to believe anything you’re posting here. All you have is blind obedience. Of course, you are free to believe anything you want, but it’s odd given your actual lack of justification to attempt to put that nonsense in front of an audience of people different from yourself. In fact, it’s pretty aggressive: we’re to take your word for it all, or it’s the highway.

Hmmm ...

God has me preaching the gospel about 12-14 hours a day so I can usually handle about ten threads at a time. Sometimes I need about three forums to keep busy because most of them are dying now.

Don’t worry about me because I’m the bold one who preaches the gospel to a world that hates God. Christians hate him with a passion because he interferes with all their gods they love so much. At least you guys are interacting with the gospel without too much anxiety. I joined one Christian forum today and put up a couple threads. I came back and they were deleted. Then I put up several more and when i came back, I was banned. I didn’t even get to have a conversation with anyone and that’s what it’s like preaching the gospel to Christians. I rarely get to stay in their forums for more than a day and I don’t get angry, swear, or anything to get banned for. It’s only because they hate the truth that confuses them.

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Posted: 02 March 2011 05:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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Gnostikosis - 28 February 2011 02:19 PM

By what means do you come by this information?

I get all my knowledge directly from God. Sometimes he guides me to use scriptures to rebuke liars or prophesies to go along with the writings he has me write. But everything I know about comes from his knowledge.

Prove it.  Tell us something that only god would know.

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Posted: 02 March 2011 05:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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bjhulk - 28 February 2011 04:56 PM
dougsmith - 28 February 2011 04:41 PM
bjhulk - 28 February 2011 04:32 PM

I’m a long ways from being a troll. In fact, you people will end up being the trolls in here because of your uncontrollable anger.

I believe your rapid posting here is based on your own anger towards those who think differently than you. That’s understandable since you appear to have no actual reason to believe anything you’re posting here. All you have is blind obedience. Of course, you are free to believe anything you want, but it’s odd given your actual lack of justification to attempt to put that nonsense in front of an audience of people different from yourself. In fact, it’s pretty aggressive: we’re to take your word for it all, or it’s the highway.

Hmmm ...

God has me preaching the gospel about 12-14 hours a day so I can usually handle about ten threads at a time. Sometimes I need about three forums to keep busy because most of them are dying now.

Don’t worry about me because I’m the bold one who preaches the gospel to a world that hates God. Christians hate him with a passion because he interferes with all their gods they love so much. At least you guys are interacting with the gospel without too much anxiety. I joined one Christian forum today and put up a couple threads. I came back and they were deleted. Then I put up several more and when i came back, I was banned. I didn’t even get to have a conversation with anyone and that’s what it’s like preaching the gospel to Christians. I rarely get to stay in their forums for more than a day and I don’t get angry, swear, or anything to get banned for. It’s only because they hate the truth that confuses them.

Some preachers pray.
Some preachers prey.

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Posted: 02 March 2011 05:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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egran078 - 02 March 2011 05:08 PM
bjhulk - 28 February 2011 02:22 PM
Gnostikosis - 28 February 2011 02:19 PM

By what means do you come by this information?

I get all my knowledge directly from God. Sometimes he guides me to use scriptures to rebuke liars or prophesies to go along with the writings he has me write. But everything I know about comes from his knowledge.

Prove it.  Tell us something that only god would know.

Actually (to avoid you getting off topic again and getting hounded by everyone), I would like you (or god) to give us a test that anyone can do to prove that you exist - something short of killing/maiming ourselves.  Anyone who does the test has to get the same results.  It has to be an objective test.

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Posted: 07 March 2011 05:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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Wow… How absurd, and limiting, but What about the aspects of being created both separate male and female to be bound in a union /marry and the two shall become one. Meaning by intimate blending, uniting as one in body, mind, spirit. Blending the energy of the male & female to create the ultimate energy of the whole.  Course most emotionally unavailable ppl don’t see this aspect, if they are… unavailable in their hearts, or shut down due to upbringing, abuses, heartaches, betrayals.  So.. of course, If anyone that reads this has experienced trauma and not resolved it internally, they will not want to see anything about my statement as possible. Most ppl here I find are bit to shallow, dramatic and not willing to go beyond. Or even willing to give the other side of humanity a glimpse.  What about our spirit, our energy. What about that?  Are you not more than the human body. If not how could you feel, love… to name a few…  Are you just a sinful mass..  I don’t believe God is a twisted God. I think God is bigger than our minds can conceive and it boggles ppl b’cos they can’t figure it out, so they slander and turn from God, like a typical racist, or human full of judgement toward any race, sex, religion.  God is bigger, and doesn’t have to conform to us. We should be willing to look at Him. If you Love anything in any depth at all. It’s Godly. God is LOVE. Energy of Love. and so many don’t get it, they are to small minded to see how Big HE is.

If anyone has experienced Spirit at all, or experienced pain, heartache, trauma and dealt with it and healed deep into their soul. They will know something about Spirit. If a person, hides their pain, holding it in to fester, become twisted, decay in their hearts, play blame games, they have not experienced God, Spirit, but shut down. Become hardened.  Not capable of depth until they are ready to let go or be eat up by his own self inflicted drama.

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Posted: 07 March 2011 05:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Look, telling people they can choose to believe something is not the same as presenting evidence.  I think most of the people posting here consider themselves skeptics.  I doubt if many would claim absolute proof that god doesn’t exist, but would require demonstrable, repeatable phenomenon for which the best explanation is that there is an omnipotent supernatural force to accept the concept of “god” as a valid hypothesis.  Certainly, the bible, torah, and koran do not meet the standard of any kind of science.  They don’t provide much in the way of testable hypothesis or coherent theory.

If you want to prove to me that your god exists, you have to come up with a repeatable, testable phenomenon that can only be explained by your “god” theory.  It’s not the skeptics job.  And it is not ok for you to say, “You’re not capable of understanding me”.  While that may be true, to convince your poor benighted audience, you must be able to break your proof down into basic steps that we can understand, or show evidence that a more sophisticated group, with valid credentials, (like a peer reviewed publication), agree with you.  Otherwise, you’re wasting our time and your own.

Now, I’m not a well educated man, I try to only post if I think I have interesting information, a valid hypothesis, or a question.  These people play hard.  I get some bruises, but I learn a lot.  There’s a great line by Texas Bix Bender that I try to keep in mind “Don’t get mad at somebody who knows more’n you do.  It ain’t there fault”.

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Posted: 07 March 2011 06:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Bjhulk is just delusional. You really should pity a guy like this than feel sorry for him. He really is no different then those people who thought Dungeons and Dragons is real.

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Posted: 07 March 2011 06:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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I find it interesting how angry and bitter ppl sound on this forum. Sounds like some major unresolved issues going on. There is no place for angers if you have your own belief system, then what point is anger. No one can make another conform, change unless they were unsure to begin with.  I find it rather enlightening to watch all this go on…  I just watch the merry go round while some like to get dizzy.  I just shake my head at the delusions of grandeur I see. Interesting to watch humans bicker and go on.

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Posted: 07 March 2011 07:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 30 ]
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I’ve got my hangups , Dreamcatcher, among them issues with being passive aggressive and anxiety.  What I learned in trying work through these problems is people like me tend to hear assertive replies and statements of disagreement as hostility.  They are not.  But we’re not here to solve our personality problems, we’re here to engage in pragmatic argument and discussion, using facts and logic to validate our statements.  If you do that nobody calls you a troll.  So, how is it that homosexuals were made to be homosexuals?  By your god?, by genetics?, by their upbringing?  There’s potential for an interesting argument here.

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