The Truth is Out There - 03 March 2011 04:12 AM

Only a belief in “God” is required, and God is a creator or higher power. I do not believe in any of the religions that have caused more pain and death than all other reasons combined. I however do believe there is a higher power, be it from here or elsewhere. The time will come when those who are ready will have the knowledge.

Ah, yes, the “enlightened” ones (illuminati).

My father is a mason, a shriner and a member of the ROJ. He was also president of the shrine jazz band (one of the reasons he joined). Their burn hospital for children BTW is top drawer to say the least. He encouraged me to join 30+ years ago but I declined not due to their belief system, and Dad never mentioned it in detail, being a secret org. and all, but I viewed it as a kind of club for businessmen. He had a great time in the band (jazz drummer) but there was an expense he later couldn’t meet. the only religious trapping I ever saw was his masonic bible, and he never discussed any religious connection in the org. In fact his fellow members never discussed it either!

Cap’t Jack

Cap’t Jack

but I viewed it as a kind of club for businessmen

i think Geo. Washington, Ben Franklin, etc. would agree. 

Also, it is a possibility that No Mason’s no American revolution.

BTW, the illuminati theory was a propaganda ploy by Czarist Russia.

OK, I’m off to a couple of my churches now.

garythehuman - 28 November 2011 05:34 PM

Cap’t Jack

but I viewed it as a kind of club for businessmen

i think Geo. Washington, Ben Franklin, etc. would agree. 

Also, it is a possibility that No Mason’s no American revolution.

BTW, the illuminati theory was a propaganda ploy by Czarist Russia.

OK, I’m off to a couple of my churches now.

Wiki

Freemasons

Stage 2. Freemasonry of the late 16th century and into the 17th century. Surviving Scottish Lodge records, as early as the 1630s, show a gentrification process — a transition from Operative to Speculative Freemasonry — evidenced by increasing non-operative notable gentleman within the membership.[16] Virtually no records of English lodges survive prior to the speculative, Grand Lodge period of 1717 onwards. The purely speculative ritual and lectures of William Preston (1742–1818) demonstrate an increasing use of a ritual infusion of Enlightenment philosophy.[17]

and here from Wiki

Illuminati

Adam Weishaupt, founder
The Illuminati (plural of Latin illuminatus, “enlightened”) is a name given to several groups, both real (historical) and fictitious. Historically the name refers to the Bavarian Illuminati, an Enlightenment-era secret society founded on May 1, 1776. In more modern contexts the name refers to a purported conspiratorial organization which is alleged to mastermind events and control world affairs through governments and corporations to establish a New World Order. In this context the Illuminati are usually represented as a modern version or continuation of the Bavarian Illuminati.

nice to know we have a resident researcher.

My dad was a Mason, I have no idea what it’s about, but they sure do preform a heck of a good eulogy send off. Interment complete with Apron inclosed.