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Shroud of Turin
Posted: 26 June 2011 08:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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The Vatican declared in a hoax over and over and over again since the 1300s, until they recently bowed to public popularity…

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Posted: 26 June 2011 10:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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asanta - 26 June 2011 08:23 PM

The Vatican declared in a hoax over and over and over again since the 1300s, until they recently bowed to public popularity…

Do tell more,
I’m sure not looking it up   smile

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Posted: 27 June 2011 01:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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citizenschallenge.pm - 26 June 2011 10:16 PM
asanta - 26 June 2011 08:23 PM

The Vatican declared in a hoax over and over and over again since the 1300s, until they recently bowed to public popularity…

Do tell more,
I’m sure not looking it up   smile

From Wikipedia:

The historical records for the shroud can be separated into two time periods: before 1390 and from 1390 to the present. The period until 1390 is subject to debate and controversy among historians. Prior to the 14th century there are some congruent references such as the Pray Codex. It is often mentioned that the first certain historical record dates from 1353 or 1357.[19][20] However the presence of the Turin Shroud in Lirey, France, is only undoubtedly attested in 1390 when Bishop Pierre d’Arcis wrote a memorandum to Antipope Clement VII, stating that the shroud was a forgery and that the artist had confessed.[21][22] The history from the 15th century to the present is well understood. In 1453 Margaret de Charny deeded the Shroud to the House of Savoy. In 1578 the shroud was transferred in Turin. As of the 17th century the shroud has been displayed (e.g. in the chapel built for that purpose by Guarino Guarini[23]) and in the 19th century it was first photographed during a public exhibition.

The pope:

Pope Benedict described the shroud, which allegedly bears blood stains and the facial imprint of a long-haired, bearded man, as an icon that once “wrapped the remains of a crucified man in full correspondence with what the Gospels tell us of Jesus.”
While Pope Benedict joins the ranks of those who believe the sepia-colored shroud is the burial cloth of Jesus Christ, skeptics dismiss it as an ingenious medieval forgery that radiocarbon testing has dated about 800 years old.
The Vatican, which owns the linen cloth, has in the past tiptoed around the issue, describing it as a potent symbol of Jesus Christ’s suffering but never asserting outright its authenticity. Pope John Paul II visited the Shroud when it last went on public display in 1998, but he said the Catholic Church had “no specific competence” to pronounce on its authenticity and urged further scientific analysis.

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Posted: 21 December 2011 02:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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http://www.vancouversun.com/technology/Shroud+Turin+fake+Italian+scientists/5885788/story.html  The shroud of turin = supernatural radiation???

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Posted: 21 December 2011 11:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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traveler - 25 June 2011 06:35 AM
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George - 21 June 2011 11:12 AM

I wish it were real. It would be interesting to have a look at Jesus’s Y-chromosome DNA.

That makes me wonder… Wouldn’t he be mostly mitochondrial DNA???  tongue wink

Oh, I misses this post. Well, I guess he could have gotten God’s DNA through the light that entered Mary. grin Would be interesting to see what God’s DNA looks like…

Don’t mean to be too crude here… but really, how much light could enter the virgin?

Edit to add: If you want to study Jesus’s DNA, all you need to do is get one of those crackers they hand out at Catholic mass.  confused

Ask your wife about her last plevic exam.  shut eye

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Posted: 24 December 2011 05:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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SmallFries - 21 June 2011 09:58 AM

Can anyone point me to some proper peer reviewed papers or is this a hopeless fight due to the lack of proper testing done?

Not exactly what you are asking for, but here:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2009/10/05/us-italy-shroud-idUSTRE5943HL20091005

an Italian scientist shows that it is relatively easy to fake shrouds.

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