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Posted: 08 July 2011 07:44 PM   [ Ignore ]
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These are some nuggets from my psychology professor. She has a PhD in psych from Texas A&M, with a specialization in creativity. This seems like it will be a fun class overall, but I disagree with several things she has told us. All quotes paraphrased.

All gays/lesbians became that way due to childhood trauma, such as sexual abuse. Our professor said she has successfully converted several gays and lesbians to heterosexuality.

I did not challenge this in class, as I do not have a PhD and did not have falsifying information at my fingertips. It doesn’t matter if I am right or wrong, the other students in the class will believe the professor unless I can provide incontrovertible evidence she is wrong.

Atheists have just as much faith as theists. Atheists have faith the chairs they sit in will not collapse.

This was right up my alley. I destroyed that statement in 10 seconds. It took another two minutes to get the professor to back down and reconsider.

Other than these two off-the-wall pronouncement she seems to be a great prof; a bit proud of her PhD, but very knowledgeable and engaging. We are having fun in class, and the prof is open to opposing views.

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Posted: 08 July 2011 07:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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She is a PhD in psychology and “successfully converted several gays and lesbians to heterosexuality”?  grin That’s great.

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Posted: 08 July 2011 08:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Yeah, I should have asked her about her follow-up studies. Maybe I will Monday. I at least need to let the class know she is not the final word on psychology, and maybe get one or two of the students thinking for themselves instead of taking the prof’s word for everything.

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Posted: 08 July 2011 08:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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The majority of Psychology is pseudo-science anyway. Or is it Psychaiatry? Either way people too easily believe things if they hear the term “psych-” in front of it.

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Posted: 08 July 2011 09:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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And they also too easily believe things if the person speaking has the title PhD in front of her name.

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Posted: 09 July 2011 12:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Proof: Once upon a time… the mainstream psychology said that every gay person was “due to childhood trauma”.  They told the gay people to forget about it, just get married and it would go away, you will be normal and happy.  The people tried that idea for a long time.  How did it work out????  Pride parade has gone on for about fourty years, proof that they are here to stay, that is proof that the old idea is ridulous and based on hating the gays not respecting them.  How you ever talked to a gay person about their sexuality?  I’ll tell you, they are not confused, they are gaysmile

Psychology Ph.D. ... are they confused??  In Freud’s days he came up with the idea that the mind has two sides, the Id and the Ego.  The Id reasons, plans, calculates, it keeps us calm.  The Ego is emotional, it is wild, it is love, sadness, happiness, it is not the same as the Id.  There is a fight between them, and a balance.  This was Freud’s model for the human mind.  He had the idea that during talk therapy the patient talks and the therapist just sits there and keeps their mouth shut, even for years of therapy, chaining the therapist down.  He thought that every man was obsessively jealous and enraged at their father for possessing his mother, who he wanted not just for care and motherly love, but for sex.  rolleyes  Freud, perhaps was projecting?

Freud insisted on his ideas, insisted that his model was true and complete as his apprentice Young argued that it was missing a way to balance and moderate the Id and Ego.  Young argued that the Superego plays this role and completes Freud’s model, Freud argued no and insisted.  Freud denied the Superego until the day he died, thus ending his side of the argument and freeing Young to add the Superego.  rolleyes  I’d call that prove that neither model was true and complete, and that both of them were in a egotistical fight to defend their ideas, rather than promote the facts.  Since then psychology has devised perhaps a thousand more models… with just one human mind, what are we supposed to do with a thousand models?  We all know the truth that the brain is made of a cerebellum, cerebrum, medula… why bother with psychology’s models?  Skeptics know that all this “mind” talk is just the same old dualist idea, anyway. 

So since Freud’s time the science of psychology has progressed, they’ve moved on, and now-a-days they promote happiness.  Happiness… in the century since Freud, this is progress that psychology has made, they have discovered that happiness is a good thing.  rolleyes

So what does psychiatry/psychology have that is real?  There is some reality, the drugs really effect people, but I hear that patients must go through a trial-and-error process to find one that works.  Hypnotism can have real effects, if done right.  I hear they do pretty well with the addicts.  What else about psychology is real, people? 

Now-a-days they prescribe equine therapy, a trip to a ranch with landscaping and care,... this is more advancements, now they’ve discovered giving people pets, hobbies, or lovely vacations cheers them up.  rolleyes  Who doesn’t know that already?  What next dolphin therapy, dog therapy, cat therapy, bicycle therapy, and fishing therapy?  As a science, they lack, this is a century of progress.

Don’t get me wrong, I think that they are well intentioned people, and do some good for some people.  But I doubt they do more than what a caring friend could do, for most problems.  Find a skeptical one, if you use one.

DarronS, can you get a refund by dropping the class?

Psych 101: 1. Be happy (find some strawberries, a pet, a friend, a sunrise)

2. Set positive goals, and do them

3. Be good to your friends, demand respect from them

4. Be open minded (You were just a child in your “formative years” and so you probably misunderstood, life is complicated and children can’t handle it well.  Re-experiencing them as an adult, you might want to reinterpret them with adult experience, coming to a completely different conclusion.  So don’t take them too seriously, be an adult not a child.)

If they know more than that, I’d love to hear about it.  smile

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Posted: 09 July 2011 05:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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The stuff about gays is complete garbage; I have to assume she’s a fundie if she believes that, since AFAIK virtually nobody else believes such stuff. Good research project for you! grin

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Posted: 09 July 2011 05:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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dougsmith - 09 July 2011 05:12 AM

The stuff about gays is complete garbage; I have to assume she’s a fundie if she believes that, since AFAIK virtually nobody else believes such stuff. Good research project for you! grin

Bingo! She describes herself as a Christ follower, not a Christian.

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Posted: 09 July 2011 06:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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DarronS - 09 July 2011 05:19 AM

Bingo! She describes herself as a Christ follower, not a Christian.

There you go. Might wonder if she’s taking some passage from the Old Testament as peer reviewed psychological literature ...

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Posted: 09 July 2011 06:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Doug, I like your idea of a research project. We have to write a 10-page paper for the class, so I just might pitch this idea to the prof.

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Posted: 09 July 2011 06:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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What school is she teaching at, and can you tape some of her looney stuff and send it to the president of the university? She needs to go. (Hope that’s not knee-jerk)  tongue rolleye

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Posted: 09 July 2011 07:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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She teaches at Austin Community College. Keep in mind this is a summer session, so the first week of class is equivalent to 2.5 weeks of a regular semester. She hasn’t done anything egregious enough to warrant dropping the class or talking to her department head, unlike the American Government prof I had last fall. I’m going to stay in the class. Overall I am enjoying the class and learning quite a bit.

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Posted: 09 July 2011 07:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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DarronS - 08 July 2011 07:44 PM

These are some nuggets from my psychology professor. She has a PhD in psych from Texas A&M, with a specialization in creativity. This seems like it will be a fun class overall, but I disagree with several things she has told us. All quotes paraphrased.

All gays/lesbians became that way due to childhood trauma, such as sexual abuse. Our professor said she has successfully converted several gays and lesbians to heterosexuality.

I did not challenge this in class, as I do not have a PhD and did not have falsifying information at my fingertips. It doesn’t matter if I am right or wrong, the other students in the class will believe the professor unless I can provide incontrovertible evidence she is wrong.

Atheists have just as much faith as theists. Atheists have faith the chairs they sit in will not collapse.

This was right up my alley. I destroyed that statement in 10 seconds. It took another two minutes to get the professor to back down and reconsider.

Other than these two off-the-wall pronouncement she seems to be a great prof; a bit proud of her PhD, but very knowledgeable and engaging. We are having fun in class, and the prof is open to opposing views.

What is the 10 second argument? Congratulations in finishing in 2 minutes.
Richard Dawkins had a debater argue that he had faith that his wife loved him. - I think this is a recurring red herring.
I don’t know that Dawkins was able to persuade everyone that the word “faith” was being used differently…

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Posted: 09 July 2011 08:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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The 10 second argument was we all have decades of experience sitting in chairs that only collapse due to manufacturing flaws or simply wearing out over time. The two-minute argument involved engineering, the meaning of the word “faith,” and and a brief mention of the strong and weak nuclear forces. I ended the discussion by quoting Hebrews 11:1, where the Bible defines faith as “the substance of things hoped for, the conviction of things not seen.”

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Posted: 09 July 2011 10:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I just read a Cracked article that described a Christian organization that was trying to convert homosexuals to heterosexuality and how awesomely they failed, but I can’t find it right now. I’ll post it here if I find it

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Posted: 09 July 2011 10:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Please do. I’d love to bring that info to class.

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