8) Gee , no one wants to fault errantists ? With Dawkins and Harris , I find that they have no valid reason for their belief, They rationally cherry pick from the Bible ,but what is left is nothing that one cannot get elsewhere and the idea of the Atonement is still barbaric . What have they to offer that is all that good ? :wink:
This message is about the errancy of the Bible and the reason for it being errant.
Although there are many varieties of Christianity, it seems legitimate to say that a tenet of most of the varieties of Christianity is the belief that all of the Bible (Old plus New Testament) is the word of a deity called God who is alleged to have commanded people to “Love your neighbor as yourself.” It does not seem to occur to the adherents of Christianity that it is a logical contradiction to claim that the Bible consists only of the word of God, and to also claim that God commanded people to “Love your neighbor as yourself.”
This logical contradiction is admittedly not immediately apparent; so it will now be shown in a step-by-step manner. As a first step, another and greater commandment, which was allegedly also made by God, reads, “Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength.” The commandment to “Love your neighbor as yourself” is specified to be like it. Given that were to be true, one of the consequences of that similarity would be that the phrase “Love your neighbor” would be similar to the phrase “love the Lord thy God”. From this similarity, it would be seen that the first and foremost “neighbor” of humanity would be “the Lord thy God”. It would logically follow that if God were a neighbor of humanity, then humanity would be a neighbor of God. Given that this were to be the situation, it would logically follow that if and when God were to preserve His words in books, then He would also preserve the words of His neighbor, humanity, in those very same books. God would do this because doing this would be to love His neighbor, humanity, as He loves Himself. If God were to preserve the words of humanity in the same books in which He were to preserve His own words, then it would be a logical contradiction to say that the Bible is only the word of God. It would instead logically be correct to say that the Bible is the word of God plus the word of humanity.
Some people might be tempted to say that this reasoning is merely logic and therefore inapplicable to a divinity. If that allegation were to be made, then it would be appropriate to mention that the Bible itself admits that it contains the word of humanity in addition to the word of God. This admission was made at Matthew 13:33 and again at Luke 13:21. To save time, the King James Version (KJV) of Matthew 13:33 reads, “Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.” Luke 13:21 is similar and the KJV of it reads, “It is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.” Their commonality reads, “Is like leaven, which a woman took and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened.” Given that this admission is true, then it logically follows that “leaven” has been hidden in every book of the Bible (“the whole was leavened”). Given that this were the situation, then it seems logical that Christianity would be divided into at least as many segments as it is.
Given that the words of the Christian deity were to be in the Bible along with the words of humanity, and given that the Christian deity were to be as just and merciful as claimed, then it would logically follow that the Christian deity would have provided a method to establish which words were whose. Considering the fact that most Christians have not yet realized that they have a need to establish which words are whose, it logically follows that most of them have not yet looked to see if there is such a way in the Bible.
If the most of Christians were nevertheless to look, then they would find that a way to establish which words were whose has indeed been provided. Of course, given that there were to be such a way, then it would logically be, that the way to establish which words were whose, would not appear to be what it were, otherwise it would have been noticed long before now. For instance, the first occurrence of the “leaven discovery tool” (to coin a phrase) is at Deuteronomy 19:15 which reads (KJV), “One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.” This verse is admittedly not a clear instance of anything which even remotely resembles the alleged “leaven discovery tool”. And the situation does not get much better with the next occurrence of it which is at Matthew 18:16 and which reads (KJV), “But if he will not hear thee, then take with thee one or two more, that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may be established.” In fact, it’s not until the third occurrence that the “leaven discovery tool” shows even a hint of its true nature. The third occurrence is at 2 Corinthians 13:1 and it reads (KJV), “This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.” Although a faint glimmer is seen in this third verse, it’s the commonality of these three verses which more clearly shows the “leaven discovery tool”. The commonality reads, “In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.” A contemplation of this commonality leads to the discovery that it is a method by which the words of God could be established to be the words of God instead of being the words of humanity.
Although this idea seems possible in theory, does it work in practice? This method of establishing which words are the words of God was used in the first four books of the Christian New Testament. The results are available for inspection at http://greatriddle.flifree.com
Thank you for your attention to this topic.