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Posted: 25 August 2011 05:28 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Frank Zappa (1940-1993) was fairly open about his hatred of religion, and he had a fairly strong secular humanist worldview. What is your opinion of him skeptics?

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Posted: 25 August 2011 07:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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In general I avoid modern music, but as I recall I enjoyed his.  However, I knew nothing about his opinions of religion.  Too bad he died so young.

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Posted: 26 August 2011 12:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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My introduction to Zappa

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Phi Zappa Krappa

I never liked his music much but the poster was funny. 

I had been an agnostic for a 1/3rd of my life by then and was never fervent about it so I was religiously indifferent.

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Posted: 28 August 2011 10:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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What is your opinion of him skeptics?

Since classical music is more my speed, this guy was never really on my radar screen.

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Posted: 28 August 2011 10:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I have 14 Zappa albums in my music collection. I need about twice that many.

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Posted: 29 August 2011 10:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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He didn’t like secular humanism either?

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Posted: 29 August 2011 02:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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brightfut - 29 August 2011 10:31 AM

He didn’t like secular humanism either?

Ouch! I’ll fix that.

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mid atlantic - 25 August 2011 05:28 PM

Frank Zappa (1940-1993) was fairly open about his hatred of religion, and he had a fairly strong secular humanist worldview. What is your opinion of him skeptics?

A pretty innovative musician. I haven’t really dived into his music like I have Beethoven or Count Basie, but what I’ve seen, I’ve liked. As for him having a strong secular humanist worldview, that aspect of his personality simply hasn’t come up as much as his musical experiments in my circles.

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Posted: 31 August 2011 10:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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I have a large FZ collection.  I can definitely agree that he wasn’t a secular-humanist or any other “ist” or “ism”.
That was one of his biggest voices.(in his art)  He believed in the power of the individual.  He was against all forms of ideology or group think.  He implored people to be their own voice…their own selfs!  He mocked fads and materialism.
The countless songs he has written which are satirical attacks on group think, ideology, political correctness, and censorship are all well documented.
He is one of my favorite artists.  As much as he was an atheist. He would abhor much of the material which spews forth from humanist idealogues.  He was a true scientific naturalist!
Suggested Listening:  “Absolutely Free”  “Weasels Ripped My Flesh”  “Joe’s Garage”  “Roxy and Elsewhere”(!)
“Live Fillmore 1973” etc etc etc.  These are albums, not songs or MP3 sound snipits.  Get whole albums(cds) and listen to them in their entirity!
Only 1 in 10 people will enjoy the works of Frank Zappa.  It’s not music for people who need instant gratification or a repetitive, familiar beat.  It isn’t music that ever stood a snowballs chance of making it on the Top 100 of anything chart!!
Captain Beefheart was a one-time musical partner of Franks and his music is worth investigating if you are into the dadaistic avant-garde freakiness of heavy hitting music.  “Safe as Milk” would be a good start.

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Posted: 05 September 2011 07:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Posted: 07 September 2011 11:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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If you want to hear FZ’s take on god & the bible listen to the lyrics for songs like Dumb All Over and The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing.  He’s also done musical takedowns of people like Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker and Pat Robertson.

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Posted: 07 September 2011 05:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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philo deist - 05 September 2011 07:55 AM

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Hmmm… no foolin’?

Yes, I am a Zappa geek.

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Posted: 13 September 2011 09:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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skuld - 07 September 2011 11:18 AM

If you want to hear FZ’s take on god & the bible listen to the lyrics for songs like Dumb All Over and The Meek Shall Inherit Nothing.  He’s also done musical takedowns of people like Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker and Pat Robertson.

Don’t forget L. Ron Hoover!

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