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Posted: 11 March 2013 08:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 106 ]
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Any country can have a low crime rate if they keep half the population in thrall to the other half. 

Interestingly enough, you also get a low crime rate when certain offences which are regarded as criminal elsewhere are not regarded as criminal in a particular nation/state.

“honour killings” for example.

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Posted: 10 May 2013 09:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 107 ]
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Interestingly enough, you also get a low crime rate when certain offences which are regarded as criminal elsewhere are not regarded as criminal in a particular nation/state.

“honour killings” for example.

The book I referenced has a page specifically talking about categories of crimes and their prevalence. It is an interesting read, so I recommend everyone take a look.

They are perfect.  Absolutely perfect hellholes. Any country can have a low crime rate if they keep half the population in thrall to the other half.  Maybe they should try putting the women in control of the men,  keep men from driving or going out of the home unaccompanied by a woman and make men wear burkhas and veils.  Then we’ll see the crime rate plummet even further.  What a great solution!

Lois, read again what I said.

There are more than 50 predominantly Muslim countries in the world, and, while most have elements of Shariah in their civil and family law, only two have it as their criminal codes. They are   Saudi Arabia and Iran
          http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/04/03/the-islamophobia-excuse/

Other than the criminal justice system on post 95

Scholar Sakeena Abdulraheem agrees with me (she is a woman):

“Muslim” countries but do not necessarily abide by the rights of women according to the teachings of Islam. This can be found in many countries throughout the world Muslim majority and non-Muslim majority one can find injustices throughout the world. What is important to keep in mind… is that all of the characteristics of the people you have encountered and the behaviors you have mentioned are not condoned or match the values and worldview, or capture the essence of Islam.
http://www.onislam.net/english/ask-the-counselor/adapting-to-life-in-a-new-country/456446-depression-in-a-new-country.html


Since SA only follows the criminal justice system properly (somewhat), it makes sense to see that aspect of society.
I am willing to also discuss other aspects of society as they come up in the discussion.

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Posted: 10 May 2013 09:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 108 ]
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I am willing to also discuss other aspects of society as they come up in the discussion.

So far, the only thing you’ve shown a willingness to do it to use your creed to trivialize, infantilize and micromanage the personal affairs of half of this planets population because they have vaginas, as if somehow that magically makes all the difference.

Until you show a willingness to let go of this paternalistic mentality, don’t be too surprised at not being taken seriously.

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Posted: 10 May 2013 09:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 109 ]
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asanta - 09 March 2013 06:28 PM

And yet another round of senseless violence from the adherents of the ‘religion of peace’ over allegations of A blasphemy by a Christian.

http://www.globalpost.com/dispatch/news/afp/130309/protesters-burn-christian-homes-pakistan-blasphemy-row-0

Over 3,000 Muslim protesters turned violent over derogatory remarks against Prophet Mohammed allegedly made by Sawan Masih, a 28-year-old Christian, three days earlier, police official Multan Khan said.

Point #1.

Dont trust the news.

Depicting Islam as manifestly medieval, backward, and cruel is not new…. Recognizing that the propaganda that is being ground out in the mainstream media derives from that conflict, it is easy to understand why Muslims are persistently portrayed in negative terms…
objective is to justify the seemingly unending series of wars in Asia, presenting the local people as lacking in the civilized moral and political values that we all hold dear.

http://original.antiwar.com/giraldi/2012/04/03/the-islamophobia-excuse/

                        ——-Phillip Giraldi
                            Former CIA Agent
This wouldn’t be the first time the news misinformed the public about the Muslim world. For examples, see

http://electronicintifada.net/blogs/ali-abunimah/debunked-zionist-and-islamophobic-libel-rape-epidemic-muslims-norway
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Backchannels/2012/0430/Ahead-of-elections-Egypt-s-state-propaganda-machine-rolls-on


Point #2

Renowned Theologian Hamza Yusuf Hanson states
accepted by consensus. There is no vigilantism in Islam. Muslims believe in state authority.
http://www.abc.se/~m9783/terr_e.html

Does it make more sense to

A.  trust the consensus of qualified scholars who have devoted their whole lives to studying Islam

OR

B.  trust lay people living in scattered countries, many of whom are poor, uneducated, and dont even know classical arabic (the language of the quran)

 


I would like to thank you, however, Asanta for bringing up the issue of ‘‘freedom of speech’‘.
That is a slightly debated topic even in the US (or at least made controversial thanks to the history channel).

So I just want to know, what people think is the limit for free speech.  Most people I know use the 10 ammendments from the US constitution as their reference.

They are secular and interesting clauses to study.  So I am curious to know if you agree with this or not. Whats your view on using the constituion as a reference?

[ Edited: 10 May 2013 09:44 PM by I.J. Abdul Hakeem ]
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