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Posted: 13 November 2006 12:58 PM   [ Ignore ]
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These are some of the questions I am curious about. What makes you think atheism is true? What evidence-reason do you have for it?

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Posted: 13 November 2006 01:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I think you misunderstand Atheism. In essence, Atheism is not a belief, but rather, a lack thereof.

Therefore, since Atheists dont generally make statements that need to be proven, I would reverse your question back to you.

Why do you think Theism is true? What evidence-reason do you have for it?

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Posted: 13 November 2006 01:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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[quote author=“Jaik”]I think you misunderstand Atheism. In essence, Atheism is not a belief, but rather, a lack thereof.

Therefore, since Atheists dont generally make statements that need to be proven, I would reverse your question back to you.

  I HAVE READ MANY POSTS ON THIS SITE BY ATHIESTS AND THEY ARE MAKING TRUTH CLAIMS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS AFTER DEATH AND LIVING A FULFILLING LIFE. THESE ARE ALL BELIEFS THAT ARE HELD BY ATHEISTS.

HOW DOES ATHEISM EXPLAIN THINGS? FOR EXAMPLE, HOW WOULD AN ATHEIST EXPLAIN HOW THE UNIVERSE CAME INTO EXISTENCE AND WHY IS THE UNIVERSE SO COMPLEX IF THERE IS NO GOD?

Why do you think Theism is true? What evidence-reason do you have for it?

BRIEFLY, I THINK A CREATOR I.E. GOD THAT CREATED THE UNIVERSE IS THE BEST EXPLANIATION WHY THE UNIVERSE IS THE WAY IT IS AND HOW IT CAME INTO BEING. THERE IS MUCH MORE THAT I COULD GIVE BUT I WANTED TO KEEP IT BRIEF.

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Posted: 13 November 2006 02:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Here is why I don’t believe in religions or gods:

1) None of them describe the world in a way that is consistent with observation.

2) There have been/are hundreds if not thousands of religions, all of which have the same basic qualities. Obviously some god didn’t create all of these different religions, meaning that religions have to arise from a human source. There is no reason to think that humans created thousands of religions, all of them claiming to “come from god or gods”, and that one of them just happened to have actually come from a god, especially when none of them stands out above the rest.

3) Religions clearly exhibit the properties of being products of social evolutionary processes.

4) A study of the histories of these religions reveals many links and borrowings among them, clearly refuting any claims that any of them are divinely inspired and others aren’t, they almost all borrow from each other.

5) The universe and life do not follow any patterns of divine intervention or intelligent design. Things in the world happen exactly as we would expect them to if they were undirected and unguided. Nice people get killed by falling rocks, assholes live to 100, are billionaires, get away with doing wrong things, and get all the hot women.

Life is fundamentally based on an amoral process of killing and consuming other living things. Life as we know it can’t exist without immorality. Animals kill each other, and there is no way that they can refrain from it. Our living system is clearly a competitive system.

6) There are obvious psychological reasons why people would make religions up.

7) Every religion that I have ever studies has lied about its own roots and past, and has presented a false history to its followers.

8) Religious people of any religion show no signs of either being better people, happier people, or more fortunate people than people of other religions or no religion at all.

I could go on….

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Posted: 13 November 2006 02:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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[quote author=“rationalrevolution”]Here is why I don’t believe in religions or gods:

1) None of them describe the world in a way that is consistent with observation.
  CAN YOU GIVE ME A COUPLE OF EXAMPLES WHAT YOU MEAN HERE?

2) There have been/are hundreds if not thousands of religions, all of which have the same basic qualities. Obviously some god didn’t create all of these different religions, meaning that religions have to arise from a human source. There is no reason to think that humans created thousands of religions, all of them claiming to “come from god or gods”, and that one of them just happened to have actually come from a god, especially when none of them stands out above the rest.
  HAVE YOU STUDIED THESE RELIGIONS AT DEPTH? I’M MOST FAMILAR WITH CHRISTIANITY AND NOT AS MUCH WITH THE OTHERS. I ACTUALLY FIND THE IDEA THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF INTELLIGENCE BEHIND THE CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE AND MADE ALL THINGS TO WORK AS THEY DO THAN ANY NATURALISTIC EXPLANIATION. FOR EXAMPLE THE WAY THIS WORLD IS MADE IN WHICH OUR DISTANCE FROM THE SUN, THE RIGHT KIND OF ATOMSPHERE FOR LIFE, WATER HAVING THE PROPERTIES IT DOES THAT MAKES LIFE POSSIBLE, THE ABUNDANCE OF FOOD FOR LIVING THINGS AND COUNTLESS OTHER THINGS THAT WORK TOGETHER MAKES BEST SENSE TO ME OF SOME KIND OF INTELLIGENT GOD BEHIND IT ALL.
NOW I ASK YOU. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN HOW ALL THESE THINGS I MENTIONED ABOVE JUST HAPPEN TO BE “JUST RIGHT” BY NON-INTELLIGENT FORCES?

3) Religions clearly exhibit the properties of being products of social evolutionary processes.
  THIS MAY BE TRUE BUT CHRISTIANITY GOES FARTHER. IT GIVES US WHO MADE THE WORLD FOR EXAMPLE.

4) A study of the histories of these religions reveals many links and borrowings among them, clearly refuting any claims that any of them are divinely inspired and others aren’t, they almost all borrow from each other.
  SO WHAT. AS PEOPLE CAME INTO CONTACT WITH OTHERS WE SHOULD EXPECT THIS.

5) The universe and life do not follow any patterns of divine intervention or intelligent design. Things in the world happen exactly as we would expect them to if they were undirected and unguided.

  LIKE ME ASK YOU TO DO AN EXPIERMENT. TAKE A CAKE MIX AND PUT ALL THE INGREDIENTS (3 EGGS, CUP OF WATER ETC) ON YOUR COUNTER. DON’T MIX THESE INGREDIENTS BUT LEAVE THEM ON YOUR COUNTER TOP. NOW, HOW LONG WOULD YOU HAVE TO WAIT BEFORE A CAKE WOULD COME FROM ALL THESE INGREDIENTS IF YOU DID NOT NOTHING BUT WAIT?
DO YOU THINK THAT THAT THE “UNDIRECTED AND UNGUIDED” FORCES OF NATURE WOULD EVER IN A BILLION YEARS CAUSE THESE INGREDIENTS TO COMBINE AND BECOME A CAKE? 

Nice people get killed by falling rocks, assholes live to 100, are billionaires, get away with doing wrong things, and get all the hot women.

Life is fundamentally based on an amoral process of killing and consuming other living things. Life as we know it can’t exist without immorality. Animals kill each other, and there is no way that they can refrain from it. Our living system is clearly a competitive system.
  WHY SHOULD THAT BE IN YOUR VIEW? EVEN IN OUR LIVING SYSTEM THERE IS A HIGH HIGH DEGREE OF ORDER. WHY DON’T ANIMALS EAT ROCKS TO LIVE INSTEAD THEY KNOW THAT THEY MUST EAT ANOTHER ANIMAL OR PLANT. HOW COULD THIS BE IF THE WORLD IS UNDIRECTED AND UNGUIDED?

6) There are obvious psychological reasons why people would make religions up.
I AGREE. MANY OF US WANT ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTIONS OF LIFE. WE WANT ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS LIKE; WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE? DOES LIFE HAVE MEANING? HOW SHOULD I LIVE MY LIFE ARE ALL QUESTIONS WE ALL FACE AND ONES THAT RELGIONS HELP TO ANSWER.

MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS: HOW DOES ATHESISM ANSWER THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS? 
7) Every religion that I have ever studies has lied about its own roots and past, and has presented a false history to its followers.
  HAVE YOU STUDIED CHRISTIANITY? IF SO, HOW HAS IT LIED TO YOU?

8) Religious people of any religion show no signs of either being better people, happier people, or more fortunate people than people of other religions or no religion at all.
  THIS MAY BE TRUE SOMETIMES. I REMEMBER READING SOME STUDIES ON THIS ISSUE AND THEY FOUND RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY HAPPIER THAN THOSE WHO ARE NOT..

I could go on….

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Posted: 13 November 2006 03:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Most of these answers are in my article here:

http://www.rationalrevolution.net/articles/understanding_evolution.htm

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Posted: 13 November 2006 03:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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[quote author=“forthetruth”]  LIKE ME ASK YOU TO DO AN EXPIERMENT. TAKE A CAKE MIX AND PUT ALL THE INGREDIENTS (3 EGGS, CUP OF WATER ETC) ON YOUR COUNTER. DON’T MIX THESE INGREDIENTS BUT LEAVE THEM ON YOUR COUNTER TOP. NOW, HOW LONG WOULD YOU HAVE TO WAIT BEFORE A CAKE WOULD COME FROM ALL THESE INGREDIENTS IF YOU DID NOT NOTHING BUT WAIT?
DO YOU THINK THAT THAT THE “UNDIRECTED AND UNGUIDED” FORCES OF NATURE WOULD EVER IN A BILLION YEARS CAUSE THESE INGREDIENTS TO COMBINE AND BECOME A CAKE? 

This has nothing to do with evolution by natural selection. Really, you have to start by learning the first thing about biology before coming here trying to dissect it. If you want I can suggest some good introductory books on the subject.

I’ll let other people respond to the rest of this post.

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Posted: 14 November 2006 03:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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[quote author=“dougsmith”][quote author=“forthetruth”]  LIKE ME ASK YOU TO DO AN EXPIERMENT. TAKE A CAKE MIX AND PUT ALL THE INGREDIENTS (3 EGGS, CUP OF WATER ETC) ON YOUR COUNTER. DON’T MIX THESE INGREDIENTS BUT LEAVE THEM ON YOUR COUNTER TOP. NOW, HOW LONG WOULD YOU HAVE TO WAIT BEFORE A CAKE WOULD COME FROM ALL THESE INGREDIENTS IF YOU DID NOT NOTHING BUT WAIT?
DO YOU THINK THAT THAT THE “UNDIRECTED AND UNGUIDED” FORCES OF NATURE WOULD EVER IN A BILLION YEARS CAUSE THESE INGREDIENTS TO COMBINE AND BECOME A CAKE? 

This has nothing to do with evolution by natural selection. Really, you have to start by learning the first thing about biology before coming here trying to dissect it. If you want I can suggest some good introductory books on the subject.
MY POINT IS THAT THE EVOLUTIONIST HAS TO ACCOUNT HOW LIFE CAME FROM NON-LIFE BY UNGUIDED-UNINTELLIGENT FORCES. HOW DO YOU GET FROM INORGANIC MATERIAL TO A CELL WHICH IS ESSETNIALLY A HIGH TECH FACTORY. THIS MUST BE DONE WITHOUT ANY INTELLIGENCE BEHIND IT.  THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS IN EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY.


 

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Posted: 14 November 2006 04:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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[quote author=“forthetruth”] MY POINT IS THAT THE EVOLUTIONIST HAS TO ACCOUNT HOW LIFE CAME FROM NON-LIFE BY UNGUIDED-UNINTELLIGENT FORCES. HOW DO YOU GET FROM INORGANIC MATERIAL TO A CELL WHICH IS ESSETNIALLY A HIGH TECH FACTORY. THIS MUST BE DONE WITHOUT ANY INTELLIGENCE BEHIND IT.  THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS IN EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY.

Well, this is an open question in evolutionary biology. The progenitor proteins involved in the first life forms were much too small to fossilize, so any evidence we have about these creatures has to come from inference. There are a number of active theories in biology about what may have been the original pathway that led to early protein assembly into self-replication.

But what is certain is that the first proto-life forms were not cells. Cells are way too complicated for that.

For some information on this, look here . This is also an issue that Dawkins takes up in his book The Blind Watchmaker, and that Dan Dennett deals with in his Darwin’s Dangerous Idea. (Among many, many other books on evolutionary biology).

For more resources on evolution, see here .

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Posted: 14 November 2006 05:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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THIS IS ONE OF THE MAJOR PROBLEMS IN EVOLUTIONARY BIOLOGY.

Well, I think this one might have to be answered by chemists, not the evolutionary biologists. But then, I don’t think it really matters to you, forthetruth, does it? From your previous posts you clearly have no interest in biology, chemistry, or any such sciences.

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Posted: 15 November 2006 03:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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[quote author=“forthetruth”] I ACTUALLY FIND THE IDEA THAT THERE IS SOME KIND OF INTELLIGENCE BEHIND THE CREATION OF THE UNIVERSE AND MADE ALL THINGS TO WORK AS THEY DO THAN ANY NATURALISTIC EXPLANIATION. FOR EXAMPLE THE WAY THIS WORLD IS MADE IN WHICH OUR DISTANCE FROM THE SUN, THE RIGHT KIND OF ATOMSPHERE FOR LIFE, WATER HAVING THE PROPERTIES IT DOES THAT MAKES LIFE POSSIBLE, THE ABUNDANCE OF FOOD FOR LIVING THINGS AND COUNTLESS OTHER THINGS THAT WORK TOGETHER MAKES BEST SENSE TO ME OF SOME KIND OF INTELLIGENT GOD BEHIND IT ALL.
NOW I ASK YOU. HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN HOW ALL THESE THINGS I MENTIONED ABOVE JUST HAPPEN TO BE “JUST RIGHT” BY NON-INTELLIGENT FORCES?

Easy.  Because if they didn’t “just happen” to be right, we would not have evolved, and we wouldn’t be sitting here talking about it.  I know that’s not the kind of answer you want, but there it is!

WHY DON’T ANIMALS EAT ROCKS TO LIVE INSTEAD THEY KNOW THAT THEY MUST EAT ANOTHER ANIMAL OR PLANT. HOW COULD THIS BE IF THE WORLD IS UNDIRECTED AND UNGUIDED?

Because if they ate rocks, they would not be able to digest them.  This is obvious, dude!

MANY OF US WANT ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTIONS OF LIFE. WE WANT ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS LIKE; WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE? DOES LIFE HAVE MEANING? HOW SHOULD I LIVE MY LIFE ARE ALL QUESTIONS WE ALL FACE AND ONES THAT RELGIONS HELP TO ANSWER.

That’s a very good point.

MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS: HOW DOES ATHESISM ANSWER THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS?

“Atheism” doesn’t, because atheism is simply the conviction that a supernatural being called God does not exist.  Humanistic philosophy, however, does struggle with the question of whether life has meaning or not.

  THIS MAY BE TRUE SOMETIMES. I REMEMBER READING SOME STUDIES ON THIS ISSUE AND THEY FOUND RELIGIOUS PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY HAPPIER THAN THOSE WHO ARE NOT…

You don’t suppose you could reference this study, could you?  “Happiness” is such an ambiguous word.

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Forthethruth I am an Agnostic, my view is i dont care about god if he exisits or not.  I mean really what dose it matter what i belive in because lets say you are right then when i die im going to find out U were right and then i can finaly get the chance to flip the being off who threatens human kind and tell him exactly what kind of a mean hearted prick i think he is.

Oh an i would probably ask him if all the pornstars get sent to hell….........you know im just wondering were they all go thats all…........still….......I’m just saying if like all the pornstars were in hell well hell mite not be so bad….......You know being in a place from god BUT i would be surounded by pornstars.  OOOOOOOH maby i should beleive in the heven and hell thing then :D LOL! Oh man im sorry i was just thinking out loud LOL!:D

On the other hand if i die and i am right then well i think when i die i die and at least i die with a smile knowing im part of this awesome body called the universe.

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Posted: 15 November 2006 08:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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[quote author=“forthetruth”]
6) There are obvious psychological reasons why people would make religions up.
I AGREE. MANY OF US WANT ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTIONS OF LIFE. WE WANT ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS LIKE; WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE? DOES LIFE HAVE MEANING? HOW SHOULD I LIVE MY LIFE ARE ALL QUESTIONS WE ALL FACE AND ONES THAT RELGIONS HELP TO ANSWER.

MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS: HOW DOES ATHESISM ANSWER THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS? 

I was thinking about this while I was in the shower (where I do my best pondering) this morning and I think your question should be addressed. Advoticus answered this in a post above, but I think that for you (forthetruth) to better understand atheism, you might need some elaboration.

I think we can agree that life provides us humans with lots of questions. It’s a very human trait to want to find out as much as we can about how the universe works and how we should act. The quest for knowledge is something that defines us as humans. Now, many people in this world think that religion has an answer to everything.

I agree.

Religion provides an answer to every question. Whether you find that answer through scripture, through consultation with a pastor, through prayer, or even youth group, that answer will be found. Without a doubt, religion has the experience to answer every question we can come up with. Simply put, religion has an answer.

But that doesn’t mean it’s the right answer.

Just because religion provides insight on issues, doesn’t mean that it’s correct. You have to realize that most questions have more than one possible choice, and generally there is a “right” choice, but sometimes you can’t see that answer because one answer seems so convenient.  But life isn’t convenient; in fact, life is quite difficult and complex. Simple answers won’t always work. Atheism doesn’t try to provide answers. If life’s questions were multiple choice, Christianity might be (A) while Islam might be (B), but atheism is not a (C)“atheism is more along the lines of None of the Above.

Religion says, “I’m right, don’t doubt me.”
Atheism say, “I dunno, let’s think about it.”

I have a feeling that this will make you ask where atheists get their answers. That’s a tough one to ask, since atheists don’t have to agree on all philosophy to BE atheists. Generally speaking though, we rely on the knowledge (not myth) of humans to help us answer the questions. We turn to astronomy and geology to find out how old the earth is, not Genesis. We turn to philosophy and culture to define our morals, not Exodus and Leviticus. But most importantly, we aren’t afraid to leave some questions unanswered. Most atheists will admit that there are some things we just CAN’T know.

Remember: Religion has an answer, but that’s doesn’t mean it’s the right answer.

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Posted: 15 November 2006 10:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I think you misunderstand Atheism. In essence, Atheism is not a belief, but rather, a lack thereof.

Exactly.  The OP was framing his question all wrong.  It’s back to the ‘you can’t prove a negative’ argument.  So it’s like saying why do you believe that you don’t believe in God?

As far as the evidence/reasons to not believe in God, well, they are numerous.  Again, the burden of proof falls upon the person making the claim.  If people claim there is a God, then they need to demonstrate that somehow.  Atheists don’t have to proof that there is not a God because that is impossible to do.  You just assume there is no God until proven otherwise. The same way I am atheistic about the belief in the tooth fairy and easter bunny. The stories of those imaginary characters are not enough to make them true. The same as with God.

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I think you misunderstand Atheism. In essence, Atheism is not a belief, but rather, a lack thereof.

Exactly. The OP was framing his question all wrong. It’s back to the ‘you can’t prove a negative’ argument. So it’s like saying why do you believe that you don’t believe in God?
I agree. I know it’s impossible to prove a negative.

As far as the evidence/reasons to not believe in God, well, they are numerous. Again, the burden of proof falls upon the person making the claim. If people claim there is a God, then they need to demonstrate that somehow.
I agree. If i’m making the claim that God exist, then I bear the burden of proof. Perhaps you have heard many but you don’t find them compelling.

Atheists don’t have to proof that there is not a God because that is impossible to do.
You just assume there is no God until proven otherwise.

Are you not doing more than assuming but actually believe that the universe came into existence by some unguided-undirected force or that the orgin life also came about by the same kind of process?

The same way I am atheistic about the belief in the tooth fairy and easter bunny. The stories of those imaginary characters are not enough to make them true.

I agree with you here also. The reason we don’t belive in them is that we know they are fairy tales. When it comes to the question of God’s existence, its a lot different. In Christianity, the claim is made that it was He who created the world in beginning. The universe certainly has the impression at the least of being designed in the sense that it works like a machine. Was it not Richard Dawkins that agreed with this but said this apparent design is due to something else?

The same as with God.


I disagree. The reasons for the belief in the existence of God are far more complex than the fairy tales you use above.

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[quote author=“Jaik”][quote author=“forthetruth”]
6) There are obvious psychological reasons why people would make religions up.
I AGREE. MANY OF US WANT ANSWERS TO SOME OF THE MOST IMPORTANT QUESTIONS OF LIFE. WE WANT ANSWERS TO QUESTIONS LIKE; WHAT HAPPENS WHEN I DIE? DOES LIFE HAVE MEANING? HOW SHOULD I LIVE MY LIFE ARE ALL QUESTIONS WE ALL FACE AND ONES THAT RELGIONS HELP TO ANSWER.

MY QUESTION FOR YOU IS HOW DOES ATHESISM ANSWER THESE IMPORTANT QUESTIONS? 

I was thinking about this while I was in the shower (where I do my best pondering) this morning and I think your question should be addressed. Advoticus answered this in a post above, but I think that for you (forthetruth) to better understand atheism, you might need some elaboration.

I think we can agree that life provides us humans with lots of questions. It’s a very human trait to want to find out as much as we can about how the universe works and how we should act. The quest for knowledge is something that defines us as humans. Now, many people in this world think that religion has an answer to everything.

I agree.

Religion provides an answer to every question. Whether you find that answer through scripture, through consultation with a pastor, through prayer, or even youth group, that answer will be found. Without a doubt, religion has the experience to answer every question we can come up with. Simply put, religion has an answer.

But that doesn’t mean it’s the right answer.

Just because religion provides insight on issues, doesn’t mean that it’s correct. You have to realize that most questions have more than one possible choice, and generally there is a “right” choice, but sometimes you can’t see that answer because one answer seems so convenient.  But life isn’t convenient; in fact, life is quite difficult and complex. Simple answers won’t always work. Atheism doesn’t try to provide answers. If life’s questions were multiple choice, Christianity might be (A) while Islam might be (B), but atheism is not a (C)“atheism is more along the lines of None of the Above.

Religion says, “I’m right, don’t doubt me.”
Atheism say, “I dunno, let’s think about it.”

I have a feeling that this will make you ask where atheists get their answers. That’s a tough one to ask, since atheists don’t have to agree on all philosophy to BE atheists. Generally speaking though, we rely on the knowledge (not myth) of humans to help us answer the questions. We turn to astronomy and geology to find out how old the earth is, not Genesis.
  Turning to Genesis for the answer to “who or what” created the universe is a good place to start. If all you rely on is science and rule out from the start the possibly of a supernatural creator, then you may never know. It seems on this issue, either the universe came into existence by non-intellugent forces or intelligent forces. I can’t think of a third alternative. Maybe there is one.

I like to think of the universe like a house. House are complex structures that require intelligence and power to build. No house has ever been observed coming into existence by unguided-unintellgent forces. We know that is impossible. What we do know is that houses do come into existence by intelligence. If this is true of houses, it must be true of the universe itself which is far more complex than a house.
We turn to philosophy and culture to define our morals, not Exodus and Leviticus. But most importantly, we aren’t afraid to leave some questions unanswered.
  Is it not true though some of the laws in the Bible have been adopted by us for our good? Take thou shall not murder, thou shall not lie for example. These laws can be traced back to the Bible and would you not agree that they are good for society?

Most atheists will admit that there are some things we just CAN’T know.

  Christians should do the same. We agree we don’t have infinite knowledge for everything.
Remember Religion has an answer, but that’s doesn’t mean it’s the right answer.

true. However, it may at times be the right answer though.

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