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Posted: 05 January 2012 03:36 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Is the claim that the USA is a Christian country actually true? The thread about an atheist political party got me thinking. Is it possible that we are -  what do you think?

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Posted: 05 January 2012 03:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 03:36 AM

Is the claim that the USA is a Christian country actually true? The thread about an atheist political party got me thinking. Is it possible that we are -  what do you think?

I think you need to start by defining what a Christian Country is.

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Posted: 05 January 2012 04:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Well, the US government is explicitly secular—i.e. non-religious and non-Christian. For more on that read the First Amendment and the Treaty of Tripoli.

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Posted: 05 January 2012 05:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 03:36 AM

Is the claim that the USA is a Christian country actually true? The thread about an atheist political party got me thinking. Is it possible that we are -  what do you think?

The establishment clause of the first amendment says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” which pretty much puts and end to any claim that we are a nation of any particular religion christian or otherwise regardless of what the religious right would like t believe. I don’t really think there is a debate here except among a bunch of ignorant fanatics.

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Posted: 05 January 2012 06:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Yeah, right.

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Posted: 05 January 2012 07:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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StephenLawrence - 05 January 2012 03:51 AM
mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 03:36 AM

Is the claim that the USA is a Christian country actually true? The thread about an atheist political party got me thinking. Is it possible that we are -  what do you think?

I think you need to start by defining what a Christian Country is.

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A country where the majority of people claim christian identity - and will get pissed off if it is denied.

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Posted: 05 January 2012 07:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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macgyver - 05 January 2012 05:55 AM
mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 03:36 AM

Is the claim that the USA is a Christian country actually true? The thread about an atheist political party got me thinking. Is it possible that we are -  what do you think?

The establishment clause of the first amendment says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” which pretty much puts and end to any claim that we are a nation of any particular religion christian or otherwise regardless of what the religious right would like t believe. I don’t really think there is a debate here except among a bunch of ignorant fanatics.

Yes, but what if the ignorant fanatics eventually have their way?

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Posted: 05 January 2012 07:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 07:28 AM

Yes, but what if the ignorant fanatics eventually have their way?

This is why we need organizations like Americans United, the ACLU ... and CFI.

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Posted: 05 January 2012 08:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 07:26 AM
StephenLawrence - 05 January 2012 03:51 AM
mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 03:36 AM

Is the claim that the USA is a Christian country actually true? The thread about an atheist political party got me thinking. Is it possible that we are -  what do you think?

I think you need to start by defining what a Christian Country is.

Stephen

A country where the majority of people claim christian identity - and will get pissed off if it is denied.

Ok, then it’s a Christian country although I don’t like the definition.

Stephen

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Posted: 05 January 2012 08:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 07:28 AM
macgyver - 05 January 2012 05:55 AM
mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 03:36 AM

Is the claim that the USA is a Christian country actually true? The thread about an atheist political party got me thinking. Is it possible that we are -  what do you think?

The establishment clause of the first amendment says “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof” which pretty much puts and end to any claim that we are a nation of any particular religion christian or otherwise regardless of what the religious right would like t believe. I don’t really think there is a debate here except among a bunch of ignorant fanatics.

Yes, but what if the ignorant fanatics eventually have their way?

It could happen but they would have to rewrite the constitution or repeal the first amendment. I dont think thats very likely but of course we always need to be on our guard.

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Posted: 05 January 2012 03:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Ok, then it’s a Christian country although I don’t like the definition

No, this is a country whose dominant religion is christianity and it appears to be shrinking with more people claiming a non-christian belief system, or none at all. Perhaps one day Americans will view the churches as a place to have weddings, funerals and pot luck suppers only!


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Posted: 06 January 2012 09:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 03:36 AM

Is the claim that the USA is a Christian country actually true? The thread about an atheist political party got me thinking. Is it possible that we are -  what do you think?

No.

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Posted: 06 January 2012 10:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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deros - 06 January 2012 09:39 AM
mid atlantic - 05 January 2012 03:36 AM

Is the claim that the USA is a Christian country actually true? The thread about an atheist political party got me thinking. Is it possible that we are -  what do you think?

No.

That seems to depend on whether you ask a Democrat or a Republican.

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Edit: Added Bachmann

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Posted: 06 January 2012 11:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Fortunately along with atheists, agnostics and deists, there are enough Jews, Moslems, Mormons, Buddhists, etc., and Christians of splinter denominations who fear that they would be forced back into the dominant religion to prevent the dumb Christian evangelicals who think they are in the majority from changing the First Amendment. 

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Posted: 06 January 2012 12:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Occam. - 06 January 2012 11:24 AM

Fortunately along with atheists, agnostics and deists, there are enough Jews, Moslems, Mormons, Buddhists, etc., and Christians of splinter denominations who fear that they would be forced back into the dominant religion to prevent the dumb Christian evangelicals who think they are in the majority from changing the First Amendment. 

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So long as they all vote…

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Posted: 06 January 2012 01:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Occam. - 06 January 2012 11:24 AM

Fortunately along with atheists, agnostics and deists, there are enough Jews, Moslems, Mormons, Buddhists, etc., and Christians of splinter denominations who fear that they would be forced back into the dominant religion to prevent the dumb Christian evangelicals who think they are in the majority from changing the First Amendment. 

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That is how we got freedom of religion in the Bill of Rights to sart with.  Too bad the (Southern) Baptists don’t admidt to their own history.


(edited to correct quotation ending.)

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