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Posted: 05 March 2012 07:15 PM   [ Ignore ]
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If we look today at the scientists’ discoveries and note that they are more than a quarter century ago, talking about strange creatures do not see, which they called black holes, and considered one of the greatest cosmic phenomena! The question is: How do these holes are formed and why do not you see, and what is taking place rapidly and sweep everything encountered on the way? Is it possible to find a newly clear from these creatures in the Koran? To reflect on the scientific facts of faith and praise God.
The phenomenon of black hole
Black Hole Black Holes as defined by NASA scientists is the area of the place pressed heavily Vtgmat the material density is too high to prevent anything from leaving, even light rays can not escape from this region. The black hole is formed when a star begins to collapse on the same large as a result of depletion of its fuel, although the black hole does not see it practiced on a very attractive objects around him. But how this story began elusive creatures?
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Until it turns the star into a black hole at the end of his life must have a large mass, the sun, for example at the end of her life will consume their nuclear fuel on and off quietly, and will not turn into a black hole because the weight is not enough for that. Perhaps we find in the book of God Almighty a nice reference to this shift in meaning: ((1) When the sun is wrapped up [in darkness) [Pelleting: 1]. So there is no collapse of any of the sun but turns off slow, and this is what the Koran the word (Kurt). In the dictionary, we find the word (Kor), enter any part in some, and this is what will happen to the sun, where some overlap in some of the material until the fuel is consumed on and off.
Characterized by the black hole attractive high, so any gas close to it Singzb him and spins in a spiral violent generator high temperature as a result of this rotation, such as hurricane speed, the heat transmitted X-rays continuously, and these rays can astronomers captured easily by their computers, so they know that this region contains a black hole.
Verse universal witness of the sincerity of the Qur’an

Will live with the verse of the Almighty Creator of this vast universe Rehab ....
The Qur’an speaks about black holes clearly
Scientists tell us the West today is a scientific fact that black holes are moving and sweep everything encountered on the way, came in one study recently for black holes (by reference number 8) reads:
It creates an immense gravitational pull not unlike an invisible cosmic vacuum cleaner. As it moves, it sucks in all matter in its way - not even light can escape.
This means that:
It’s - that black holes - the force of gravity creates a tremendous act like cosmic vacuum cleaner does not see, when moving swallow everything encountered on the way, not even light can escape.
In this sentence we find the fact that the writer Achtsr these holes in three things:
1 - do not see these objects: invisible
2 - very attractive works like a vacuum: vacuum cleaner
3 - and going constantly moving: moves
And perhaps admire if we know that this text, published in 2006, came in a more eloquent and clear in the book since the seventh century AD!!! Quran has clipped all of what scientists and black holes in three words only!! Allah says: ((15) So I swear by the retreating stars
(16) Those that run [their courses] and disappear) [Pelleting: 15-16].


We are in this text to the three facts about creatures I swear by God, namely:
1 - Alkhns: any that do not disappear never see, was named Satan Balkhanas because it is not seen by the sons of Adam. This is expressed by the scientists of any word invisible is invisible.
2 - Neighbourhood: Any place that is moving at fast speeds. This is expressed in the word of scientists move any move.
3 - synagogues: Any that sweep and swallow all that encountered in its path. This is expressed in the word of the scientists of any vacuum cleaner

vacuum cleaner.

What does that mean?
Since the seventh century was not one on earth thinks that in the sky stars are the sweep and attract all that encountered on the way, was not one expect the existence of these stars with the knowledge that they do not never see, but the Koran Great Book Lord of the Worlds Tell us about these creatures carefully Amazing scientific, and therefore we conclude that the Quran never scientists to talk about universal truths, and that these creatures are only the verse attests to the ability of the Creator in being, and this indicates that the Holy Book of God and not a book of human beings, God says for his glorious book: ((82 ) Then do they not reflect upon the Qur ‘n? If it had been from [any] other than All h, they would have found within it much contradiction.) [Women: 82].

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Posted: 05 March 2012 07:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Yes, that’s a galaxy, formed by the goddess Hera’s breast milk. Hera is great! Hera 1, Allah 0.

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Posted: 05 March 2012 07:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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bross - 05 March 2012 07:15 PM

The Qur’an speaks about black holes clearly

Absolute nonsense.

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Posted: 05 March 2012 09:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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dougsmith - 05 March 2012 07:42 PM
bross - 05 March 2012 07:15 PM

The Qur’an speaks about black holes clearly

Absolute nonsense.

“Kyrie “
by Poul Anderson
• Publishing Data • Preview • Background • Navigation Guide

Originally published in The Farthest Reaches, 1968
Collected in The Norton Book of Science Fiction
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Eloise Waggoner lives with her experience as a special communications technician on the Supernova Sagitarrii expedition where her job was to communicate with the Aurigean Lucifer who has the ability to approach the phenomenon much more closely than the human ship and crew.


  This story is one of the earliest astronomical science fiction stories to speculate about black holes.
  This story is classic science fiction, a deep, many-layered blending of conventional science fiction symbols.

http://www.nvcc.edu/home/ataormina/beyond/fiction/k/kyrie.html

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Posted: 05 March 2012 09:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I think we are being trolled by a bad computer program. Bross makes no sense.

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Posted: 06 March 2012 02:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Posted: 06 March 2012 03:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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I think it is a poor translator program. But I got the gist of the statement.
Which begs the question if there are any scientific books in Muslim countries. Apparently the Quran explains it all.  Or maybe,  E=MC^2, praise be Muhammed?
Unfortunately Mohammed was illiterate, thus must have received all that scientific knowledge from God directly. Oddly, the description of a black hole is not exactly right. If it is there must be a lot of Satans around. Or perhaps God had a poor translator program when trying to explain his messages to humans.

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Posted: 06 March 2012 04:51 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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bross - 06 March 2012 02:25 AM

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The book of God the Holy Quran

Sorry, bross. The Quran isn’t any more the book of God than is Alice in Wonderland. You’re deluding yourself.

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Posted: 06 March 2012 05:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I think it is a poor translator program. But I got the gist of the statement.
Which begs the question if there are any scientific books in Muslim countries. Apparently the Quran explains it all.  Or maybe,  E=MC^2, praise be Muhammed?
Unfortunately Mohammed was illiterate, thus must have received all that scientific knowledge from God directly. Oddly, the description of a black hole is not exactly right. If it is there must be a lot of Satans around. Or perhaps God had a poor translator program when trying to explain his messages to humans.


No my dear brother
The most important point in all the differences between people

Sapiens and the learner who uses his mind and think well

Why not ask

How spoke the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him from the sea and shades in the Qur’an is not a diver?

How spoke the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him for the human body from the inside and the fetus is not a surgeon or a doctor?

How spoke the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him from the sky, planets and galaxies is not an astronaut?

How spoke the Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him great wisdom about love and human relationships and marriage?

Do you think people said

Talked about how all this is not educated?
Does not read or write since 1433

I hope that you think about it and come to an answer from the mind and heart


Do not worry much
Do not get angry
I know that the miracles of the Holy Qur’an
This is a surprise for you

So when he discovers that the real Holy Qur’an
And discover the greatness and mercy of Islam

Makes sure that the attempts to distort Islam, a liar and deceiver

calm down and use your mind in the research and understanding
Holy Qur’an
(1) By the star when it descends
(2) Your companion [Muhammad] has not strayed, nor has he erred
(3) Nor does he speak from [his own] inclination
(4) It is not but a revelation revealed
(5) Taught to him by one intense in strength
(6) One of soundness. And he rose to [his] true for
(7) While he was in the higher [part of the] horizon
(8) Then he approached and descende
(9) And was at a distance of two bow lengths or nearer
(10) And he revealed to His Servant what he revealed

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Posted: 06 March 2012 05:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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bross - 06 March 2012 02:25 AM

Read
The book of God the Holy Quran

Sorry, bross. The Quran isn’t any more the book of God than is Alice in Wonderland. You’re deluding yourself.


My dear brother
I’m very happy because you talked about your thoughts and your views
As well as what is going on inside you and in your heart and your feelings

This is important
But
Torah and the Gospels and the Psalms, and the Holy Qur’an
Wrote celestial source and one which is(ALLAH)
Ordered the deployment of the prophets of God and conveying the message to the people
Therefore, the rights to choose the way of God and the prophets and holy books, which contain the teachings of the divine
Or walk and follow the path of the devil and death

This is it simply
Holy Qur’an is the natural extension of the Torah and the Gospel
But unfortunately
Torah and the Gospel was distortion
So people say completely different

God says in the Holy Qur’an

136. Say (O Muslims), “We believe in Allah and that which has been sent down to us and that which has been sent down to Ibrahim (Abraham), Isma’il (Ishmael), Ishaque (Isaac), Ya’qub (Jacob), and to Al-Asbat [the twelve sons of Ya’qub (Jacob)], and that which has been given to Musa (Moses) and ‘Iesa (Jesus), and that which has been given to the Prophets from their Lord. We make no distinction between any of them, and to Him we have submitted (in Islam).”

285. . The Messenger (Muhammad) believes in what has been sent down to him from his Lord, and (so do) the believers. Each one believes in Allah, His Angels, His Books, and His Messengers. They say, “We make no distinction between one another of His Messengers” - and they say, “We hear, and we obey. (We seek) Your Forgiveness, our Lord, and to You is the return (of all).”

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Posted: 06 March 2012 05:23 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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bross - 06 March 2012 05:14 AM

Torah and the Gospels and the Psalms, and the Holy Qur’an
Wrote celestial source and one which is(ALLAH)
Ordered the deployment of the prophets of God and conveying the message to the people
Therefore, the rights to choose the way of God and the prophets and holy books, which contain the teachings of the divine
Or walk and follow the path of the devil and death

This is it simply
Holy Qur’an is the natural extension of the Torah and the Gospel
But unfortunately
Torah and the Gospel was distortion
So people say completely different

Do you have any evidence for any of this? Because if you don’t, then we have no reason to accept anything you are saying.

And FWIW I don’t accept the Torah, the Gospels or any of the Bible as the word of God anymore than I do the Quran, the Odyssey or the Lord of the Rings. They’re all basically works of myth and fiction.

In general, bross, this is a forum for rational inquiry, not one for blind assertion. To that end, please be aware of our rule 3(h) as regards trolling. Continued rule violations can lead to banning. Thanks.

bross - 06 March 2012 05:14 AM

God says in the Holy Qur’an ...

Um, no. The Quran says this, but there is no reason to believe God exists or if he did that he had anything to do with that book.

One can’t simply believe something because it says so on a piece of paper.

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Posted: 06 March 2012 09:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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I have. I doesn’t speak to black holes. Niether does any other alleged “sacred test” I’ve ever read.

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