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Posted: 19 March 2012 01:49 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Did anyone else find it ironic that a man who lives in a palace, wearing clothing robes, jewels and shoes costing more than the homes of most of his followers live in, commissioned a special patented perfume only he could wear, yet gave a Christmas address cautioning his sheep against materialism…...the irony kills!

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Posted: 19 March 2012 04:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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But, But, But he’s God’s disciple on Earth!!! Da ya want the man to dress in rags? Now how impressed would the flock be if that happened? Huh? I mean he’s the one who’s gonna shephard the flock into heaven and don’t we all want ta walk the streets of gold, wear white robes and sing hymns ta the big guy and, hey maybe get ourselves some of that jewelry too? Come on, he looks better with the robes than that picture of him in his fetching Hitler Jungend outfit!


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Posted: 19 March 2012 04:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Whenever we visit churches in Europe I always marvel at the gold, silver and jeweled loot they have on display in their vaults. Not sure what it has to do with Jesus’s teachings ...

BTW, what’s this about the perfume? Do you mean patented or copyrighted?

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Posted: 19 March 2012 04:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Well, there is materialism, and then there’s materialism!! Christ likes one type at least! red face  Doesn’t he?  Seriously though, the pope is basically a mafia don - he might as well act like it.

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Posted: 19 March 2012 05:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I never understood that either. Doesn’t the Bible say quite explicitly that rich men can’t get to heaven?

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Posted: 19 March 2012 05:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Yes, and something about a camel performing a magic trick! LOL


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Posted: 19 March 2012 05:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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To be fair, though, to at least some of the catholics, they tried to follow Christ’s teachings with the focus on the poor during the Liberation Theology. Vatican and the U.S. government then put a quick stop to it, accusing them of Marxism which let, for example, to the assassination of the priest from El Salvador, Oscar Romero. I guess this would be another example of a secular government oppressing the religious.

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Posted: 19 March 2012 06:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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George - 19 March 2012 05:31 AM

I guess this would be another example of a secular government oppressing the religious.

Um, no. Liberation theology was anathema to the Catholic Church, as being an outgrowth of (secular) Marxism. It was, if anything, an example of the religious suppressing the secular.

(And the US Government’s involvement had nothing to do with the Catholicism and everything to do with the Marxism. In that aspect it was the secular oppressing the secular).

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Posted: 19 March 2012 06:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Suppresing the secular? You mean the rich, not the secular. Without the help of the U.S. army who helped to defeat the liberation theology, the movement would have probably succeeded.

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Posted: 19 March 2012 06:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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George - 19 March 2012 06:35 AM

Suppresing the secular? You mean the rich, not the secular.

Yes, that too.

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Posted: 19 March 2012 07:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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To be fair, though, to at least some of the catholics, they tried to follow Christ’s teachings with the focus on the poor during the Liberation Theology. Vatican and the U.S. government then put a quick stop to it, accusing them of Marxism which let, for example, to the assassination of the priest from El Salvador, Oscar Romero. I guess this would be another example of a secular government oppressing the religious.

Yes but these were considered “rogue” priests and not sanctioned by the Vatican. Weren’t some of them also defrocked as well? Anyway, more power to them for bucking the “party line” and actually helping the poor. One wonders if they were motivated by their own altruism rather than their religious beliefs. Liken this to the 1810 rebellion against Spain by Mexicans who were led by priests, Miguel Costilla as an ex.


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Posted: 19 March 2012 07:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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To sum it up, when Arabs, who’s lands are being occupied by the U.S., attack New York in the name of their religion, we blame religion. When priests in Central America try to stay true to the teachings of Christ, we accuse them of Marxism and blame it on politics.

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Posted: 19 March 2012 07:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Unfortunately the U.S. has a history of intervention in these countries going back to the Monroe Doctrine where we gave ourselves permission to police the area and protect the U.S. owned plantations providing us with fresh fruit. We still prop up these Banana dictators and have to smack them down on occasion to keep them in line. Rogue priests promoting egalitarian ideals are an anethema to our interests there. Remember folks, we created Panama just to build a ditch across it!


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Posted: 29 March 2012 11:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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look at the photos…..........

is it just me or do I see no difference in what they are wearing?

- flamboyant clothing
- over stated - status bearing head piece (I thought crowns were for royalty)
- ridiculously expensive and customized accessory
- too many pieces of jewelry

POPE VS FLAVA FLAV

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Posted: 30 March 2012 05:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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dougsmith - 19 March 2012 04:39 AM

Whenever we visit churches in Europe I always marvel at the gold, silver and jeweled loot they have on display in their vaults. Not sure what it has to do with Jesus’s teachings ...

BTW, what’s this about the perfume? Do you mean patented or copyrighted?

Very true, but on this side of the pond we have our own version of this. The pastors of the big mega churches in this country make obscene amount of money, along with other tangible benefits. Their churches are not lined with gold and silver, but they are palaces of indulgence, with every modern convenience to be had. Many of them preach a prosperity gospel that teaches that god wants all his followers to be, if not rich, then at least very comfortable. It’s about as far one can possibly get from the teachings of Jesus and his early followers.

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Posted: 30 March 2012 05:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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FreeInKy - 30 March 2012 05:36 AM

Very true, but on this side of the pond we have our own version of this. The pastors of the big mega churches in this country make obscene amount of money, along with other tangible benefits. Their churches are not lined with gold and silver, but they are palaces of indulgence, with every modern convenience to be had. Many of them preach a prosperity gospel that teaches that god wants all his followers to be, if not rich, then at least very comfortable. It’s about as far one can possibly get from the teachings of Jesus and his early followers.

For sure.

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