10 of 10
10
So I believe in UFOs
Posted: 03 December 2012 09:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 136 ]
Jr. Member
Rank
Total Posts:  25
Joined  2012-12-03

I was being sarcastic in my agreement with macgyver.

 Signature 

Believe nothing you hear, and only half what you see. Anonymous

Profile
 
 
Posted: 30 May 2013 12:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 137 ]
Jr. Member
Avatar
Rank
Total Posts:  8
Joined  2013-05-29

Hi.
I agree that there are UFO’s, BUT….it’s just Unidentified Flying Objects, things like advanced military aircraft etc. that we don’t know about. When the first stealth airplane was seen publicly, it sure looked like an UFO!
I watched a program on NatGeo where they discussed UFO’s. The lead guy from SETI made an interesting comment regarding the Roswell incident: He found it astonishing that aliens would safely travel light years to arrive here and then crash their advanced flying machine on our little planet!
Also, people are notoriously bad eye-witnesses so we need real proof regarding this “phenomena”.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 12 June 2013 08:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 138 ]
Jr. Member
Rank
Total Posts:  11
Joined  2013-06-12

Anecdotes and eyewitness accounts are useless. People lie, misremember, embellish and are often mistaken. Our perception of the world is not always accurate, our senses are fallible and our prior beliefs can and do influence and distort what we see and hear and experience.

Grainy photos and videos of distant lights and objects are equally useless and prove nothing. Even a high-quality photo or video of a strange machine or aircraft in the sky must be authenticated by a reputable and independent source and even if it isn’t fake, it must be proven that the object isn’t of terrestrial origin, that it isn’t classified military technology or whatever. For that one would need complete access to every piece of classified information of every military complex in the world or direct and unlimited access to the aircraft so that a thorough examination may be done.

A photo or a video, even if authentic and of high quality, doesn’t prove anything. Much more is needed.

P.S.
What reason is there to believe that aliens, if they exist, are technologically advanced and have the resources and desire to visit our planet?

Profile
 
 
Posted: 12 June 2013 08:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 139 ]
Sr. Member
RankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  3202
Joined  2011-11-04

Right, our memeory does not work like a mechanical recording, which you can play back over and over and it stays essentially the same.  Remembering is subject to potential modification by the influences that occur each time one remembers a particular event.

 Signature 

As a fabrication of our own consciousness, our assignations of meaning are no less “real”, but since humans and the fabrications of our consciousness are routinely fraught with error, it makes sense, to me, to, sometimes, question such fabrications.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 12 June 2013 10:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 140 ]
Jr. Member
Avatar
RankRankRankRank
Total Posts:  81
Joined  2013-06-01

One problem with ufology is a lack of standards.  For example some people say 95% of UFO reports can be explained but obviously the percentage depends on what you consider a UFO report.  MUFON’s website gets at least 20 reports every day, but most of them are junk.

Profile
 
 
Posted: 12 June 2013 10:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 141 ]
Jr. Member
Rank
Total Posts:  11
Joined  2013-06-12
TimB - 12 June 2013 08:39 AM

Right, our memeory does not work like a mechanical recording, which you can play back over and over and it stays essentially the same.  Remembering is subject to potential modification by the influences that occur each time one remembers a particular event.

Exactly, we may not always remember things accurately. Some memories may not even be real. Lots of alleged alien abductees undergo hypnosis to retrieve “blocked” memories of their abduction, when in fact they’re basically fabricating memories or mistaking something they saw on TV or read about or whatever for an actual memory of something that happened to them.

ufo-buff - 12 June 2013 10:14 AM

One problem with ufology is a lack of standards.  For example some people say 95% of UFO reports can be explained but obviously the percentage depends on what you consider a UFO report.  MUFON’s website gets at least 20 reports every day, but most of them are junk.

No standards at all, no reasonable criteria for what should count as evidence, any random blurry photo will do.

Profile
 
 
   
10 of 10
10