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Posted: 11 May 2012 05:57 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I’m going to show this to the next fundy that says that to me.

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Posted: 11 May 2012 06:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Yep. There sure are a heck of a lot of ‘controversies’ out there, if one wants to go looking for them ...

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Posted: 11 May 2012 06:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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So tell me, Free: Are you (and other agnostics here) also agnostic about the turtle?

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Posted: 11 May 2012 06:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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George - 11 May 2012 06:22 AM

So tell me, Free: Are you (and other agnostics here) also agnostic about the turtle?

Nope.


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Posted: 11 May 2012 06:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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The turtle could be invisible. You can never be 100% sure, can you?  grin

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Posted: 11 May 2012 06:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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BTW, if that photo is sufficient enough for you to accept the absence of the turtle, why isn’t this photo (your photo) enough of an evidence for you to accept that God doesn’t exist?

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Posted: 11 May 2012 07:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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WTH are you talking about George? When did I ever say I believe that god exists?

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Posted: 11 May 2012 07:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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You agreed his existence is very improbable. I just want to know why God is very improbable but the turtle doesn’t exist.

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Posted: 11 May 2012 07:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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I think you should change your screen name to AlmostFreeInKy.

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Posted: 11 May 2012 07:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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George - 11 May 2012 07:15 AM

You agreed his existence is very improbable. I just want to know why God is very improbable but the turtle doesn’t exist.

If I really thought you didn’t know the answer to that question, I would respond. But since I know you are either trying to piss me off or just have yourself some amusement at my expense, I’m just going to ignore you. Go hijack another thread.

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Posted: 11 May 2012 07:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Great post, FIK.

I was just thinking about turtles all the way down because the season (series?) finale of Awake is going to be titled “Turtles All the Way Down.”

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Posted: 11 May 2012 07:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Also, you can get these T-shirts from http://controversy.wearscience.com/.
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Posted: 11 May 2012 07:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Nice find, Austin! The devil burying fossils cracked me up!  LOL

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Posted: 11 May 2012 07:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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FreeInKy - 11 May 2012 07:31 AM
George - 11 May 2012 07:15 AM

You agreed his existence is very improbable. I just want to know why God is very improbable but the turtle doesn’t exist.

If I really thought you didn’t know the answer to that question, I would respond. But since I know you are either trying to piss me off or just have yourself some amusement at my expense, I’m just going to ignore you. Go hijack another thread.

No, I really don’t know the answer. What is it?

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Posted: 13 May 2012 01:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I usually avoid the atheist vs agnostic wars since they strike me as pointless sectarianism a la Monty Python’s Life of Brian. That said, the “How can you be agnostic about God and not agnostic about [insert bullshit of your choice here]” argument doesn’t strike me as very solid.. The degree of certainty one feels about a belief ought to be proportional to the evidence, and the degree of disbelief one feels about a specific claim ought to be proportional to the evidence available to support of contradict it. The evidence against a turtle holing up the earth is considerably stronger than the evidence for a deistic kind of creator or many other possible descriptions of a deity. You may find the evidence sufficient to declare all of them utrue equally, but the tone of contempt you exhibit for those who disagree with this assessment strikes me as unjustified.

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Posted: 15 May 2012 08:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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mckenzievmd - 13 May 2012 01:18 PM

I usually avoid the atheist vs agnostic wars since they strike me as pointless sectarianism a la Monty Python’s Life of Brian. That said, the “How can you be agnostic about God and not agnostic about [insert bullshit of your choice here]” argument doesn’t strike me as very solid.. The degree of certainty one feels about a belief ought to be proportional to the evidence, and the degree of disbelief one feels about a specific claim ought to be proportional to the evidence available to support of contradict it. The evidence against a turtle holing up the earth is considerably stronger than the evidence for a deistic kind of creator or many other possible descriptions of a deity. You may find the evidence sufficient to declare all of them utrue equally, but the tone of contempt you exhibit for those who disagree with this assessment strikes me as unjustified.

Thank you. Very well stated.

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