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Posted: 17 May 2012 12:24 PM   [ Ignore ]
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A question i always had about all those Bigfoots, Yetis, Yerens etc. :
Has anyone ever calculated how many individuals a Yeti-Tribe would need to survive, or how many pounds of meat/plants such a creature would need per day?
How large would be a Yetis Territory* etc.

It would be interesting to know if it would be physically possible for such a creature to exist in certain parts of north America or Asia.

What do you think, could such a giant creature be able to hide for such a long time somewhere in the woods/mountains and not even leave bones as evidence of its existence?

 

 


*In comparison with those of other big apes

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Posted: 17 May 2012 12:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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No. Nope. Uh-uh. No way. Nada.

Ultimately, the biggest problem with the argument for the existence of Bigfoot is that no bones or bodies have been discovered. This is really the 800-pound Bigfoot on the researchers’ backs, and no matter how they explain away the lack of other types of evidence, the simple fact remains that, unlike nearly every other serious “scientific” pursuit, they can’t point to a live or dead sample of what they’re studying. If the Bigfoot creatures across the United States are really out there, then each passing day should be one day closer to their discovery. The story we’re being asked to believe is that thousands of giant, hairy, mysterious creatures are constantly eluding capture and discovery and have for a century or more. At some point, a Bigfoot’s luck must run out: one out of the thousands must wander onto a freeway and get killed by a car, or get shot by a hunter, or die of natural causes and be discovered by a hiker. Each passing week and month and year and decade that go by without definite proof of the existence of Bigfoot make its existence less and less likely.

Bigfoot at 50 Evaluating a Half-Century of Bigfoot Evidence

This was written a decade ago but still nothing has changed. Except that there are even more lunatics out there looking.

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Posted: 17 May 2012 04:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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What do you think, could such a giant creature be able to hide for such a long time somewhere in the woods/mountains and not even leave bones as evidence of its existence?


Why not? I did and I got away with it too! I’ve been living around humans for over 60 years and they haven’t caught on yet. smile


Yeti, uh I mean Cap’t Jack

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Posted: 17 May 2012 04:07 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Alexander80 - 17 May 2012 12:24 PM

A question i always had about all those Bigfoots, Yetis, Yerens etc. :
Has anyone ever calculated how many individuals a Yeti-Tribe would need to survive, or how many pounds of meat/plants such a creature would need per day?
How large would be a Yetis Territory* etc.

It would be interesting to know if it would be physically possible for such a creature to exist in certain parts of north America or Asia.

What do you think, could such a giant creature be able to hide for such a long time somewhere in the woods/mountains and not even leave bones as evidence of its existence?

You’re right. He wouldn’t be able to hide. That’s why he’s been sited lots of times tongue laugh . He even thumbed his nose at us by getting a starring role in Star Wars and making us all think Chewbacca was just an actor in a furry costume.

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Posted: 17 May 2012 07:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Has anyone ever calculated how many individuals a Yeti-Tribe would need to survive, or how many pounds of meat/plants such a creature would need per day?

Curiously enough, I think it has been attempted. I can’t recall the source so I can’t back it up.

All that aside, I would think that the dietary requirements would have to be fairly substantial. All else aside, in order to avoid going extinct, there have to be enough breeding pairs which wouldn’t self destruct from inbreeding. The population which would be required to make that happen couldn’t readily excape being noticed and therin lies the rub. As one of the posters pointed out, not even one bona fide specimen either living or dead exists.

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Posted: 17 May 2012 09:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Alexander80 - 17 May 2012 12:24 PM

A question i always had about all those Bigfoots, Yetis, Yerens etc. :
Has anyone ever calculated how many individuals a Yeti-Tribe would need to survive, or how many pounds of meat/plants such a creature would need per day?
How large would be a Yetis Territory* etc.

Using the Mountain Gorilla as the closest example…as close as you can get when dealing with a mythical creature like Bigfoot, Wikipedia says:

The 2006 census at Bwindi indicated a population of 340 gorillas, representing a 6% increase in total population size since 2002 and a 12% increase from 320 individuals in 1997.[33] All of those estimates were based on traditional census methods using dung samples collected at night nests. Conversely, genetic analyses of the entire population during the 2006 census indicated there were only approximately 300 individuals in Bwindi.[2] The discrepancy highlights the difficulty in using imprecise census data to estimate population growth.

The world population of Mountain Gorilla seems to be around 600 with the above-mentioned Bwindi being about 205 sq. mile (331 km) in size according to this site.

Alexander80 - 17 May 2012 12:24 PM

What do you think, could such a giant creature be able to hide for such a long time somewhere in the woods/mountains and not even leave bones as evidence of its existence?

Not in the woods/mountains of North America.  And especially not with so many true believers looking for it for over half a century along with real hunters who would have stumbled across one while hunting real animals.  And the amount of cameras have increased exponentially since Roger Patterson’s time.  So while there has been an increase in photos/video of every single other (real) animal out there to go along with this increase, the amount of convincing photos/videos of Bigfoot have remained completely flat-lined, not to mention not a single body, hair sample, stool sample, etc.  There’s a reason for that.  And that reason is Bigfoot only exists as myth.   

It would seem there is a larger breeding population of cryptozoologists (too many) than there are of Mountain Gorillas (@300)and especially of Bigfoot (0).

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Posted: 19 May 2012 06:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon - 17 May 2012 07:37 PM

Has anyone ever calculated how many individuals a Yeti-Tribe would need to survive, or how many pounds of meat/plants such a creature would need per day?

Curiously enough, I think it has been attempted. I can’t recall the source so I can’t back it up.

All that aside, I would think that the dietary requirements would have to be fairly substantial. All else aside, in order to avoid going extinct, there have to be enough breeding pairs which wouldn’t self destruct from inbreeding. The population which would be required to make that happen couldn’t readily excape being noticed and therin lies the rub. As one of the posters pointed out, not even one bona fide specimen either living or dead exists.

nor poopies, nor signs of sleeping nests, nor middens etc

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Posted: 19 May 2012 01:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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What do you think does it make sense to search for cryptides, or Animals People claim to have seen but have no evidence for?
Some time ago i have read about that deer from Asia which was present in the local Mythology, but was discovered and documented only before a few years,
so I think that a closer look cant hurt, maybe the Mongolian Death-Worm is just a really fat, unknown Snake, and the Yeti just a huge guy in a suit whos a member in some strange secret society
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Posted: 19 May 2012 04:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Alexander80 - 19 May 2012 01:18 PM

What do you think does it make sense to search for cryptides, or Animals People claim to have seen but have no evidence for?
Some time ago i have read about that deer from Asia which was present in the local Mythology, but was discovered and documented only before a few years,
so I think that a closer look cant hurt, maybe the Mongolian Death-Worm is just a really fat, unknown Snake, and the Yeti just a huge guy in a suit whos a member in some strange secret society
wink

The thing to keep in mind is that no new animal species has ever been discovered by a cryptozoologist.  Real scientists and real explorers are the ones who discover the new and different category of deer, goat, beetle or whatever.  And the cryptozoologists never want to look for the deer, goat or insect.  They want the big “sexy” ones like Bigfoot and the Loch Ness Monster.  They don’t want to make a new discovery as much as they want to confirm their pet monster actually exists.  It’s more about belief than objective discovery.  That and they just like to traipse around the woods in a pseudo-adventure while claiming every noise in the distant night is a sausquatch. (BFRO, are you listening?!)  It’s the same reason people go to the movies or amusement parks.  It’s fun and a type of escapism for them.  But they aren’t doing any real science. 

So does it make sense to search for unknown animals?  Sure.  Even the amateur may discover a new species of ladybug or possibly something larger.  But people shouldn’t be disappointed that the new animals found don’t match with myths, legends or their preconceived desires.

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Posted: 19 May 2012 06:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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so I think that a closer look cant hurt…

That’s just it, people have been looking closely. VERY closely, and a lot still do. So far, they’ve come up goose eggs.

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Posted: 19 May 2012 07:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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At what point do people stop looking for Unicorns, Dragons and Mermaids?  Same goes for other make believe things like Elves, Gremlins, and Eskimos.  At some point most people come to realize these things simply don’t exist and never did.  Bigfoot, Yeti and the Loch Ness Monster are Western culture’s modern version of these make-believe animals.  Since such “creatures” seem to be part of all human stories regardless of time or place it could be that human’s desire to believe in these things may be innate.  Each culture has their own make-believe creatures.  Will Bigfoot and the Yeti eventually go the way of the Unicorn and Mermaid?  And if so, will they be replaced by other make-believe creatures?

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Posted: 19 May 2012 07:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I thought Eskimos were real. smirk

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Posted: 20 May 2012 05:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Somehow i have the feeling that in the not so distant future some one will create such Things through genetic engineering, just because it is possible and fun… if so ill order a big blue dragon, so i wont run out of fire grin

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George - 19 May 2012 07:52 PM

I thought Eskimos were real. smirk

Well, they certainly think they are! Who are we to question them?

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Posted: 21 May 2012 08:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I thought Eskimos were real.

Well, they certainly think they are! Who are we to question them?

There are no such thing as Eskimos. They’re Inuits. Eskimos are a figment of the European imagination. grin


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Thevillageatheist - 21 May 2012 08:49 AM

I thought Eskimos were real.

Well, they certainly think they are! Who are we to question them?

There are no such thing as Eskimos. They’re Inuits. Eskimos are a figment of the European imagination. grin


Ahhh…. I see. As are the “western” Indians!

By the way, I had an instructor in college who was from India. She referred to native Americans as “red Indians” and her compatriots as “brown Indians.”  She was not, as they say, “politically correct.”  LOL

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