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Posted: 16 August 2013 09:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 91 ]
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Presents; I like presents! But I take comfort in the past as well.


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One good schoolmaster is of more use than a hundred priests.

Thomas Paine

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Posted: 16 August 2013 11:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 92 ]
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Humans are story-creating creatures and it’s through our stories that we can and do connect with other people. -  Michael D. Ostrolene;

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All the Gods and all religions are created by humans, to meet human needs and accomplish human ends.

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Posted: 16 August 2013 01:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 93 ]
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garythehuman - 16 August 2013 11:08 AM

Humans are story-creating creatures and it’s through our stories that we can and do connect with other people. -  Michael D. Ostrolene;

And hate them and go to war with them and destroy them.

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Posted: 17 August 2013 01:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 94 ]
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Lois - 16 August 2013 01:21 PM
garythehuman - 16 August 2013 11:08 AM

Humans are story-creating creatures and it’s through our stories that we can and do connect with other people. -  Michael D. Ostrolene;

And hate them and go to war with them and destroy them.

Yes, sometimes, if their stories are different than our stories, but then again most wars are fought over access to material recourses.

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All the Gods and all religions are created by humans, to meet human needs and accomplish human ends.

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Posted: 21 August 2013 05:54 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 95 ]
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The difference between a Cult and a Religion:

In a Cult, there is a person at the top who knows it’s a scam.
In a Religion that person is dead.

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For every complex problem there is a solution that is simple, obvious,.... and just plain wrong

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Posted: 22 August 2013 04:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 96 ]
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garythehuman - 17 August 2013 01:18 PM
Lois - 16 August 2013 01:21 PM
garythehuman - 16 August 2013 11:08 AM

Humans are story-creating creatures and it’s through our stories that we can and do connect with other people. -  Michael D. Ostrolene;

And hate them and go to war with them and destroy them.

Yes, sometimes, if their stories are different than our stories, but then again most wars are fought over access to material recourses.

Too often it’s a fight over whose god or whose religion is the true one, even though none is true.

Lois

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Posted: 31 August 2013 01:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 97 ]
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Proverb in Arabic:

“Saying I don’t know is half of the knowledge.”

http://muslimmatters.org/2011/06/28/saying-“i-don’t-know”-is-half-of-knowledge/

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Say: He is God, the Unique.
God, the Self-Sufficient.
He does not give birth, nor was He born.
And there is none equal to Him.

Quran (112: 1-4)

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Posted: 31 August 2013 01:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 98 ]
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I’m embarrassing myself again, but I can’t help it.
Reading books and articles takes its toll on the mind.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lIlYvDYoX9I

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Say: He is God, the Unique.
God, the Self-Sufficient.
He does not give birth, nor was He born.
And there is none equal to Him.

Quran (112: 1-4)

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Posted: 31 August 2013 07:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 99 ]
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One Man’s Mythology is Another Man’s Religion
http://leapsecond.wordpress.com/

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Art is the creation of that which evokes an emotional response, leading to thoughts of the noblest kind.
W4U

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Posted: 01 March 2016 02:31 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 100 ]
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Religion holds back intellect.

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Posted: 01 March 2016 02:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 101 ]
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“It has been said that man is a rational animal. All my life I have been searching for evidence which could support this.”

“So far as I can remember, there is not one word in the Gospels in praise of intelligence; and in this respect ministers of religion follow gospel authority more closely than in some others.”

Bertrand Russell

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You cannot have a rational discussion with someone who holds irrational beliefs.

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Posted: 02 March 2016 05:31 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 102 ]
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I am certain of only one thing, that being I’m not certain about anything.

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Posted: 02 March 2016 11:25 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 103 ]
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deros - 02 March 2016 05:31 AM

I am certain of only one thing, that being I’m not certain about anything.

Well that’s for sure.  Or is it?

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As a fabrication of our own consciousness, our assignations of meaning are no less “real”, but since humans and the fabrications of our consciousness are routinely fraught with error, it makes sense, to me, to, sometimes, question such fabrications.

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Posted: 02 March 2016 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 104 ]
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FreeInKy - 18 May 2012 11:35 AM

“What I’m asking you to entertain is that there is nothing we need to believe on insufficient evidence in order to have deeply ethical and spiritual lives.”
― Sam Harris

How do you define spiritual or spiritual lives?

I realize that’s a Sam Harris quote, but what does spiritual mean to you? (or to anyone on this forum). I’m curious.

Lois

We’ve had discussions about this before - that spiritual doesn’t have to mean “spiritual” in the normal sense. I don’t think of myself as having any spirituality, but some members here do feel they have some sort of secular spirituality.

Yes, I know, but i’d like to know what it is.  If something can’t be defined in a rational way it is completely useless.

Lois

Lois how about music? Not only is science still trying to grapple with the mechanics of music, but it certainly has a spiritual quality for me. And I daresay many billions
more.
So, Music is still tough to define in a rational way mechanically, yet rationally no one can deny that music affects people in a secular way.
I would also say that everyone has their own right to define their own spirituality as it applies to them.
Of course you are more than entitled to point out how useless you think it is.

But we know what music is, no matter what kind of music we love or hate.  We know it when we hear it. Nobody knows what spirituality is. It’s apparently a place-holder word or anything we like or that gives us positive feelings. A psychopath could feel “spiritual” over torturing or killing people.


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[color=red“Nothing is so good as it seems beforehand.”
― George Eliot, Silas Marner[/color]

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Posted: 03 March 2016 01:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 105 ]
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‘A psychopath could feel “spiritual” over torturing or killing people.’

Lois


(good quote)

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As a fabrication of our own consciousness, our assignations of meaning are no less “real”, but since humans and the fabrications of our consciousness are routinely fraught with error, it makes sense, to me, to, sometimes, question such fabrications.

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