Israel’s Land
Posted: 04 July 2012 09:36 AM   [ Ignore ]
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The descendants of Israel will as a nation turn to Yeshua their messiah, and also they will occupy the central place in the millennial age when Yeshua personally brings to this earth universal peace, prosperity, and justice. The believers in Yeshua cannot lay claim to the promise of the land of Canaan, they do have a distinctive place in Yahweh’s program, but the promise of Canaan belongs to Israel, and to Israel alone. Long ago the prophets of the descendants of Israel saw the earthly millennial kingdom as a prelude to the eternal kingdom of Yahweh, and they spoke of it as eternal. They viewed the new heaven and new earth in close connection with the millennial kingdom to come upon this present earth. As long as this earth stands in its present form, Israel holds the title-deed to the entire land of Canaan. Thus, the land of Canaan belongs to Israel through all time as an earthly possession, and in eternity Canaan will be transfigured and much enlarge.
   

The new earth will be the eternal resting place for the New Jerusalem, which is 1500 miles in length and breadth and height. This will require a vastly enlarged and different globe from our planet as it exists today. Then, too, the new earth will have no sea. Even though the descendants of Israel will occupy and control all of Canaan during the 1000-year earthly reign of Yeshua, they will not have it forever. The bible views the millennial kingdom of Yeshua as the door into the universal eternal kingdom of Yahweh. The present earth-system will be burned, and the new heaven and new earth will come in its place. On this new earth, Yahweh will fulfill his promise to Israel that she will have a distinct national identity and territory forever. The earthly throne of David will not be abolished, but will merge into the eternal throne upon the new earth. On the new earth Israel will still be distinct, and have her own king-perhaps David. Yeshua will leave his throne as the millennial king to take his place on the one eternal throne, “The throne of Yahweh and the lamb”, thus bring the millennial kingdom to an end as it leads into the eternal kingdom of Yahweh in the new heaven and the new earth. Yeshua will continue to exercise his regal authority, but will do so as the eternal son with the Father.

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Posted: 04 July 2012 01:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Ahhhhh….yeah….whatever.

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Posted: 05 July 2012 07:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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I swear, this is what I missed most about this place.  This board gets the best trolls.  The best.

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Posted: 05 July 2012 07:12 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Posted: 05 July 2012 10:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Yeah, but why don’t we get succinct ones?

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Posted: 05 July 2012 10:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Yeah, but why don’t we get succinct ones?

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Not in this case, just mind numbing ramblings about a made up god who hates his people’s neighbors for not slavishly following him. I wonder how the vanquished felt when they heard the bad news that the shepherds next door claimed their land by “divine right’”? Oh, that’s right they we’re all slaughtered! Huzzah god.


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Posted: 05 July 2012 10:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Thevillageatheist - 05 July 2012 10:48 AM

Not in this case, just mind numbing ramblings about a made up god who hates his people’s neighbors for not slavishly following him. I wonder how the vanquished felt when they heard the bad news that the shepherds next door claimed their land by “divine right’”? Oh, that’s right they we’re all slaughtered! Huzzah god.

They might not have been the shepherds next door after all, but the shepherds within. Recent scholarship on the origins of the Hebrew people has tended to favor the idea that they actually arose from among the Caanonites, rather then as conquerors from outside. That would explain better why there was so much assimilation of Caanonite culture.

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Posted: 14 July 2012 06:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Yes, there is a new heaven and earth, I’ve read this from the book of revelation. Israelite are the people of God, He made a promise to them. But of course God gave salvation to everyone, to the gentiles. smile

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newnature - 04 July 2012 09:36 AM

Then, too, the new earth will have no sea.

So this new Earth will look like present-day Israel? Sounds about right for Yahweh. Create a planet filled with incredible beauty - mountains, forests, prairies etc. - and give his chosen people the ugliest, most barren patch of land imaginable. Yahweh is one sick individual.

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Posted: 14 July 2012 12:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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That’s probably true Free but the cultures and writing styles originated with Sumerians after King Sargon’ reign. He was the first emperor and united all of the city states. Even Abraham allegedly came from the city states of the Sumian city of Ur. So they would have been heavily influenced by Sumerian culture that predated the Hebrews.

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newnature - 04 July 2012 09:36 AM

The descendants of Israel will as a nation turn to Yeshua their messiah, and also they will occupy the central place in the millennial age when Yeshua personally brings to this earth universal peace, prosperity, and justice. The believers in Yeshua cannot lay claim to the promise of the land of Canaan, they do have a distinctive place in Yahweh’s program, but the promise of Canaan belongs to Israel, and to Israel alone. Long ago the prophets of the descendants of Israel saw the earthly millennial kingdom as a prelude to the eternal kingdom of Yahweh, and they spoke of it as eternal. They viewed the new heaven and new earth in close connection with the millennial kingdom to come upon this present earth. As long as this earth stands in its present form, Israel holds the title-deed to the entire land of Canaan. Thus, the land of Canaan belongs to Israel through all time as an earthly possession, and in eternity Canaan will be transfigured and much enlarge.
   

The new earth will be the eternal resting place for the New Jerusalem, which is 1500 miles in length and breadth and height. This will require a vastly enlarged and different globe from our planet as it exists today. Then, too, the new earth will have no sea. Even though the descendants of Israel will occupy and control all of Canaan during the 1000-year earthly reign of Yeshua, they will not have it forever. The bible views the millennial kingdom of Yeshua as the door into the universal eternal kingdom of Yahweh. The present earth-system will be burned, and the new heaven and new earth will come in its place. On this new earth, Yahweh will fulfill his promise to Israel that she will have a distinct national identity and territory forever. The earthly throne of David will not be abolished, but will merge into the eternal throne upon the new earth. On the new earth Israel will still be distinct, and have her own king-perhaps David. Yeshua will leave his throne as the millennial king to take his place on the one eternal throne, “The throne of Yahweh and the lamb”, thus bring the millennial kingdom to an end as it leads into the eternal kingdom of Yahweh in the new heaven and the new earth. Yeshua will continue to exercise his regal authority, but will do so as the eternal son with the Father.

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Posted: 18 July 2012 10:21 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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DarronS - 14 July 2012 10:00 AM

So this new Earth will look like present-day Israel? Sounds about right for Yahweh. Create a planet filled with incredible beauty - mountains, forests, prairies etc. - and give his chosen people the ugliest, most barren patch of land imaginable. Yahweh is one sick individual.

I’ve always thought the ugliest, most barren patch of land imaginable is Australia.  Plus, it has the added benefit of being packed full of super-deadly death animals.

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Posted: 18 July 2012 12:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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I’ve always thought the ugliest, most barren patch of land imaginable is Australia.  Plus, it has the added benefit of being packed full of super-deadly death animals.


G’day mate. Throw another Amalekite on the barby!  grin

 


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