Written Long Ago, but posted by: John L Freeman (LeMarc Landean)
on Thursday, September 22, 2011 at 11:20pm.
—-I can be and I am certain (via the same process that always brings me at 4 when I add 2 + 2) that the bible is the writing of humans. Big deal, seems old and maybe and likely bordering on boring? Well, because it IS an old thought. That -in itself, does not negate that something is at least relevant, but for the matters here: it is crucial to our own survial, much less lifestyle.
—-The argueing of religion by what are called -and sometimes they themselves use this title)
(non-believers) or (atheist) vs. the pious (faith full of it)- in which the whole affair is centered around the scutinazation of the bible and it’s contradictory passages, cruelties and unmerciful suffering seems to be going in circles at times somewhat like argueing the color blue- but this was indeed necasary.
Point of above few sentences is that (people might say, (faith based)—-some even, very thoughtful, knowledgeable religious apologists), here I must note FTurek, the religious people’s best most inteligent speakers-debators, that “of course silly, we don’t believe in a man with a white beard, etc; anymore” any (MORE)—- REALLY?
—-(Moving on from that garbage)—-
This at the least brings this fight to the forefront and is essence the opening salvo for the real blood to come. Maybe the only time where I, myself would agree with the old ‘bloodletting’ medical healing technique in that it actually metaphorically and in some cases practicality would and will do us well.
—-How-ever there are still a large portion of thoughtful people -on either side- (I do not say both)
as these are not and can not, -I intend to and will show why, and not just dole out this side and the other- which you’ll soon see is what is at least one of, and likely a very, blatant side effect (that I call it) from this old and now very easily cured ailment/sickness of the sort that I am trying to alleviate. Or, in other, more direct words -never should be put on equal ground- and is where I still see, in the time of now- (seperate post) “Time of NOW”—-SOON—- with all of our knowledge and even almost curious rapid advances in wisdom- people still, that have a knee-jerk reaction as to claim that this does not have any place anymore (the debating of bible verses) and everyone is already aware of this. This type of a calling out used to be reserved for the biblical debates. A deeper look though and these same people would see that this is and was the needed step to a more provacative and enlightening dialectic. I, myself—-like where SHarris is taking it…“The Moral Landscape” 1 of now, 3 books I HAVE actually read…Well—-listened to.
—-Now, there can be no doubt on this as billions have been crippled in their thought by past and very frighteningly present generations. (and to make fun of a cripple whether it’s of a physical type, or -and this seems even more heinous) the mental kind, is even by the -2nd most abject of creatures, frowned upon to put it lightly.
—-We are at a point in our history (and that can and should be a point of discussion on why all this, -now?) -and: -I am not referring to the veracity of bible verses) and our time where surely it must be simply enough conceeded as self evident and the need becomes as always, or rather should always be to advance (past) this with a slight but important type of course correction. All of these points should be up and running, one might assume.
—-I ask, are they?
—-It does -in some views, seem like an old, exhausted and boring discussion. Only though if one is not paying attention to the blatently obvious. Indeed it -to the extent of merely time- is all of these. One thought that should keep leading to flushing out and shining a spotlight on this fallacious, albeit majoritive way that people go about their life and while most do not really take the scriptures so very serious. I , myself wouldn’t try to tell them this.
—-How-ever that should never be forgot and or let back in -as those doors are, if not closing now- should be swinging shut and abandoned where Linus left his trusty but hole riddled blanket. It does, at a glance, even at an intense glare- seem like this should be followed by the oldest question, “Well then what the hell is it all about”?
—-All we know to be true on this, is that we will never ever know by means of closing the eye. To be so obstenate that a refusal to be more aware of anything as critical to our own survival would just be to give up all: which religion is very adept with and to the point of even boasting this intrinsic and damaging non effort (Unless you disagree with it) Then my fellow brethern, (Religion ROARS).
—-There is nothing one can say except what is self evident: Religion is Mans (constant) attempt to control Man. It is, as is said: combining to maxims of both solipcism and servility, and these can’t co-exist by their very definition: This has been honed to be this way as it is a self sealing, beyond reproach tactic. It has to be this because it has always been “under attack”—even from the one’s that profess the belief. Even with the most Fundamentalist, this does not go as deep as they would desperatly want you to believe. It, because it is so fantasmal HAS to be of the sort that keeps needing re-inforcement. In brief to on that, I am referring to the so called, “miracles” etc,...
—-inserted per 4-12-2012: When I say I am certain, and use this word—-I can really only mean it as I say: as much as I am comfortable that I’ll get 4 every time I add 2 plus 2—-having opened with that in the middle of this scribble: On with it—-I rarely-if ever would publish/post/say something and claim certainty- unless it fit that simple criteria: and this is just a taste—-it stems from confusion: which reallly, deeply truly—-is our fear (human) of womens “stuff”: I think it’s from the Latin for :how shall I say?—-coos coos.
—-and the power therefore fear thus anxiety, which leads to maniacal behavior. On ‘coos coos’, that’s just the taste—-www.lemarc.org ... really. This is such not a funny ha ha—-
Men,...I appeal to you. ‘Wimma please!’—-though you’ll like the conclusion I draw but at present I just don’t know what—-I know how though) cont—-in your deepest thoughts, alone—-or however works for you. If you can realize this (and I realize this is a kind of (just city—just life’ quality* i am talking of, but this is do-able in the *now)—-just for a second I ask you to go—-then we’ll race back,...it is ones simple “honesty” with themselves. We likely and (I, myself- am certain that we likely will not like what we find—-but I use this word a great deal because everyone needs one: base—- ‘so honest study of energies’. It needs not to be anything more than that—-it could be more—-but it’s NOT less. Crucial:—-take math: if you are very adept with 0-9—and have a decent idea of 10’s—-it’s really all you need know to lead one hell of a life—in the best way/most content…STOPPING: <—-for now:
only adding for now—-that all our worst come from confusion/fear—-women are both to us:—-we crave: I do. we fear: I do.
that’s likely the only ‘i do’ you will get from me: Though I do’t mean that in a well, mean way—-as tedious as women can make us if we buy in—I—hmmm…I’m very close to saying that their way is more ? but leaving for now…do not confuse with riffin—-I do this, yes: Not here or in anything that I am trying to sort for ALL. Have good times: have a laff—on me—-at me: I understand.
likely wouldn’t know how to operate without—-well, at least (thinking this). Though I have came to realize it’s not the case—-but I say anyway: I also add as I realize that it’s not the most linear piece—but I am NOT a writer. I use writing as a tool. I actual only recently realized this—-STOPPING.
I say with deep love: 1st—-I wish I could divulge why I think I have it…<—-I DO realize how this sounds—-and was aware writing that sentence: I stick. Now when I say “it”—-I mean (the question).
Having an incorrect or useless answer is really not a costly thing -for this and in direct context<—-though I don’t want to dumm it doun—-I’ll try to maintain -as much as possible—-my level of respect in my words—because 1) as I have said, (simple curiosity VALTS you forward: combine it with previously charged; honesty…and you will know yourself—-then follows knowing others (yes, this can—as many things lead to illwill uses) but on the whole brings us immediatly from 1 mile out—-to an inch<—-subject to change to 1mm for everybody: ok—-cornball—-so now I STOP.
—-However, another look and it is STILL doubted fervantly that it is made by Man. This MUST be fought. I can’t nor would say/claim that there is no type of god. Not because of an attempt to be overly polite or anything other than for the simplest of reasons that still escapes more people than even I thought: and it’s mighty answer is, I (can’t) know this. What I am sure of is neither can you.
—-IF- thought about, - just in the slightest way- Would we really want these types of gods? Well, it (seems) that we don’t have a choice in this -in other words-, I believe that it IS just what we see -for the part I speak of here- granted we are bound to see more and more), but when the earliest of creatures seen what amounted to be mundane horror as something everyday as another creature being mutilated, we naturally tried to find reason for this and voila! Enter gods. Later, the people in power (whether it was the tribe leader in some part of the world, to the King in quite another) mostly knew that they couldn’t (really) know, so they needed something to control the people. Enter religion.
~ THEE biggest (whether there are many or one or no gods) reason that religion is held so fierce, but not really, is that it “preys” on the youngest and is infested, and infected in us before we have reached any age that would permit what would be called reasoning. ANYTHING that asks you to suspend your own individual reasoning is by definition going to ‘take you on a ride’ This it seems to me is it’s biggest tell). Now, this ride could be self-induced, and if so, as with drugs. That, I save for other papers, but I will just say that a deliquate amount of self-delusion is really not so bad for us in itself, and to bring it full forward—-it does in fact help us cope. How-ever, the difference with being able to choose ‘when’ you want to suspend disbelief is all about making a decision. You’ll see though that at the earliest of ages this is forbidden. For this reason alone, we should, apart from many other qualms, and at the very least suspect it.