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Posted: 21 September 2012 03:25 PM   [ Ignore ]
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Posted: 21 September 2012 08:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Wow. A picture really is worth a thousand words.

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Posted: 22 September 2012 12:40 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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TimB - 21 September 2012 08:10 PM

Wow. A picture really is worth a thousand words.

Nah, it was photoshopped. The signs were actually on opposite sides of the arena, but I agree that they belong together! tongue wink

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Posted: 22 September 2012 04:29 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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“Medicare and Medicaid are the single biggest drivers of the federal deficit and the federal debt—by a huge margin.”
What.  A.  Liar.

Or maybe not?

This thread needs a poll question so that CFI folks can weigh in on just how much credit they want to give Republicans for Medicare and Medicaid.

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Posted: 22 September 2012 05:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Bryan - 22 September 2012 04:29 PM

“Medicare and Medicaid are the single biggest drivers of the federal deficit and the federal debt—by a huge margin.”...

Defense spending is a major factor, as well.  These 3 have been the major drivers for some time. Republicans emphasis on doing something about the debt seems to be in reverse correlation as to when they are in power.  I don’t recall seeing a debt clock when any recent Republican nominees were in contention for POTUS.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential

“Economist Mike Kimel notes that the five former Democratic Presidents (Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy, and Harry S. Truman) all reduced public debt as a share of GDP, while the last four Republican Presidents (George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, and Gerald Ford) all oversaw an increase in the country’s indebtedness.”

The last Republican president just happened to leave us an economy in worse shape since the Great Depression.  And the current obstructionist Republicans in Congress have made it their primary mission to insure that Obama fails in every way possible, economy and everything else be damned.

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Posted: 22 September 2012 08:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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TimB - 22 September 2012 05:33 PM
Bryan - 22 September 2012 04:29 PM

“Medicare and Medicaid are the single biggest drivers of the federal deficit and the federal debt—by a huge margin.”...

Defense spending is a major factor, as well.  These 3 have been the major drivers for some time. Republicans emphasis on doing something about the debt seems to be in reverse correlation as to when they are in power.  I don’t recall seeing a debt clock when any recent Republican nominees were in contention for POTUS.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_by_U.S._presidential

“Economist Mike Kimel notes that the five former Democratic Presidents (Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Lyndon B. Johnson, John F. Kennedy, and Harry S. Truman) all reduced public debt as a share of GDP, while the last four Republican Presidents (George W. Bush, George H. W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, and Gerald Ford) all oversaw an increase in the country’s indebtedness.”

The last Republican president just happened to leave us an economy in worse shape since the Great Depression.  And the current obstructionist Republicans in Congress have made it their primary mission to insure that Obama fails in every way possible, economy and everything else be damned.

“Yes, but ...” noted.

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Posted: 22 September 2012 09:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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“...” = Anyone worried about the national debt should vote for Democrats for President, as they tend to reduce national debt, rather than for Republicans for President, as they may talk big and fear-monger about the national debt, for political gain, but tend to increase the national debt when they are in office.

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Posted: 22 September 2012 09:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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TimB - 22 September 2012 09:26 PM

“...” = Anyone worried about the national debt should vote for Democrats for President, as they tend to reduce national debt, rather than for Republicans for President, as they may talk big and fear-monger about the national debt, for political gain, but tend to increase the national debt when they are in office.

And anyone willing to discount the congressional role in spending and revenue should just listen to TimB.

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Posted: 22 September 2012 10:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Bryan - 22 September 2012 09:37 PM
TimB - 22 September 2012 09:26 PM

“...” = Anyone worried about the national debt should vote for Democrats for President, as they tend to reduce national debt, rather than for Republicans for President, as they may talk big and fear-monger about the national debt, for political gain, but tend to increase the national debt when they are in office.

And anyone willing to discount the congressional role in spending and revenue should just listen to TimB.

Really.  Well thank you for advocating that anyone at all should listen to me.

But since it is just people who are “willing to discount the congressional role in spending and revenue” let me tell you people, don’t discount the role of Congress in these matters.  Look for a thread that is discussing Congress and spending —not a thread whose topic picture is from a Presidential Primary Convention.

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Posted: 23 September 2012 08:16 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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This is a funny pic..

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Posted: 23 September 2012 09:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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sure, sure Democrats can be creepy also.


But, considering the Republican’s strategy of attacking science anytime it interferes with their power and profits…
well… you know… if you respect science over bull poopie and ideology you really need to vote Democratic.

Furthermore, at least most Democrats don’t believe they have a direct line to God almighty.  cheese

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Posted: 23 September 2012 02:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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citizenschallenge.pm - 23 September 2012 09:56 AM

But, considering the Republican’s strategy of attacking science anytime it interferes with their power and profits…
well… you know… if you respect science over bull poopie and ideology you really need to vote Democratic.

Except for the left’s choosing ideology over science on such issues as…

* Nuclear Power
* Genetically Modified Food
* Biomed Research Involving Animals
* Asbestos
* DDT
* Silicone Breast Implants (which led to the prevention of silicone coated hypodermic needles, making current vaccines more painful.)
* And speaking of vaccines, more Democrats are opposed to them than Republicans.
* And over half of Democrats are Troofers, the paragon of anti-science ideology.

No one political party holds a monopoly on anti-science.  And that goes for the Libertarian Party, of which I most identify.  All political parties are made up of human beings.  And errors in critical thinking are an across-the-board human problem that plagues Republicans, Democrats, Libertarians, etc.


“There should be something of a self-evident red flag to people who draw this dichotomy and make such a radical assumption about so many people. Great sweeping generalizations, particularly those purporting to know the thoughts and feelings of other people, are almost always wrong. It doesn’t really matter whether you’re a skeptic or a believer, black or white, gay or straight, liberal or conservative, Eastern or Western, Northern or Southern: when you catch yourself thinking you know the minds of others — and most especially when you assign them some sort of sub-human, amoral, or thoughtless traits — it’s almost certainly you who is in the wrong.”

Brian Dunning’s Skeptoid episode on science

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Posted: 23 September 2012 04:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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There is a difference in not believing in science, and being against how certain scientific technologies are utilized.  It may be the case that there are more Republicans in the 1st of these categories and more Democrats in the latter.

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Posted: 23 September 2012 05:17 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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TimB - 23 September 2012 04:38 PM

There is a difference in not believing in science, and being against how certain scientific technologies are utilized.  It may be the case that there are more Republicans in the 1st of these categories and more Democrats in the latter.

Those on the left, such as Democrats, don’t believe nuclear power is safe.  The don’t believe GM foods are safe.  They believed completely false things about silicone breast implants, despite being assured otherwise by the science.  They spout utter anti-scientific nonsense about 9/11.  And they claim, “We’ve seen just a skyrocketing autism rate. Some people are suspicious that it’s connected to the vaccines…The science right now is inconclusive…” to quote Barack Obama.

It’s ideology causing false belief and disbelief on all sides.

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Posted: 23 September 2012 08:55 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Regardless of what the science says, nuclear power was not safe at all. recently, in Japan.  The vaccine issue is more about parents of children with Autism or other neurological issues, rather than about Liberals.  I don’t keep up with breast implant issues, so I don’t know about that.  I’m not aware of multi- generational studies of the effects of humans eating genetically modified foods.  I do see a tendency of conservatives to side with big money and corporate interests, regardless of scientific studies.

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Posted: 24 September 2012 12:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Drill baby, drill!

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