Thunder and lightning are not made by a god. Never has, never will.
Plants cannot absorb nitrogen directly out of the atmosphere, so guess what? They get their “nitrogen-fix” through lightning turning nitrogen and oxygen with some ammonia, which can then dissolve into the falling rain and becomes just the very best fertiliser. This requires intense heat from lightning (5 times hotter than the surface of the Sun). Also, with the help of nitrogen-fixing specialist bacteria.
Evolutionists, I defy you to explain how that all came about, perfectly in the first instance …or no life could be sustained on the Earth! These are non-living things and energy forces and elements that don’t evolve through “natural selection”. They have no mind or ongoing regenerated life of their own.
Super novas are not made by a god, never have, never will.
But how was the expansion rate finely tuned to 1 to 122 ? only its fine tuning makes it possible our universe to exist…...
The speed of a type Ia supernovae is also easily deduced from its spectrum. The speed and distance measurements are then used to measure the expansion rate of the Universe. From observations in the late 1990’s of distant type Ia supernovae, astronomers concluded that the expansion rate of the Universe was increases – the Universe was accelerating!
The Cosmological Constant Problem
The cosmological constant L, which is not usually part of the Friedmann-Robertson-Walker model but can be included, produces a rather unusual effect on cosmology. It yields a “negative pressure” causing a gravitational repulsion that drives matter apart at increasing rates. The data from type Ia supernova observations suggest the existence of a cosmological constant.
Theorists have been reluctant to introduce a cosmological constant in the theory because of a fine-tuning problem. It turns out that if L is non-zero then it should have a natural value that would cause a very rapid expansion and very dramatic cooling of the Universe. The current measured temperature of the Universe is 2.725 degrees Kelvin. Although extremely cold by human standards (just a few degrees above absolute zero), if L is present, it must be about 10122 times smaller than the natural value to agree with this temperature measurement. How could L be set to such a small value with such precision? This is known as the cosmological constant problem. Its solution had been to assume that L was exactly zero. Type Ia supernova measurements thus created a fine-tuning problem for cosmology.
The Universe was not made by a god, never has, never will.
i see. A car was made by a intelligent being. A airplaine, much more complex, was made by a intelligent being. The universe, much much more complex, and finely tuned to permit life on earth, was a lucky accident ? Please explain what is rational to believe that.
The assumption of a sentient intelligent construct, existing in a vacuum
Where do i make the assertion God existed in a vacuum ?
, but being causal to the universe without a single clue as to how this construct could possibly exist is not reasonable,
Just because our mind is too limited to understand God, and its eternal existence, to believe in his existence is not reasonable ? Does that mean, that every cause, that we cannot explain, becomes not reasonable ? and that reasoning should be reasonable, why ?
unless one discards all knowledge we have of how things work
please present therefore something, that came into existence from absolutely nothing.
and assume that god is not bound by any constants and that would be even more incredible.
So why is there something, rather than nothing ? what caused the universe into existence ? nothing ?
Tell me how god manages to exist outside reality, yet have influence on reality?
Who told you that God exists outside of reality ? If he is the essence of reality ?
A man with a white beard sitting on a golden throne high up in the sky
Thats not what we xtians believe. Thats folklore.
, with little winged people circling happily to the tune of a long golden trumpet? So far the only picture I see is a God in Man’s image. That is of course physically impossible. So paint me a picture of god, anyway you like. I’ll get it, even the most abstract representation. Have faith in me. I am real and I can think!
God is spirit, a bodyless mind.
Define god and specifically how it is able to “think” as an individual observer
God is the supreme being of the universe. God is a unbodied mind, He is righteous and just, love, good, free from sin, he is perfect in his character and person, he is righteous in all His attitudes and actions, he is eternal, without a beginning, and without a end, he is omniscient, omnipresent, limitless in authority, immutable, he is the truth. Moreover, God is self-existent, nonspatial, nonmaterial, unimaginably powerful, and personal.
So far everything I have heard about a (any) god is unreasonable in its very conception, IMO.
please present a better explanation for our existence.
But we have not a single piece of evidence of God, except scripture
no kidding…... open your eyes….
1. The universe had most probably a beginning.
This is supported through scientific, and philosophical reasons. Therefore it had a cause. Since beyond our universe, there was no time, no space, and no matter, that cause must be timeless, beginningless, eternal, spaceless, transcendent, invisible, personal, and incredibly powerful. Why does it need to have these characteristics ? This cause cannot exist in the time/space/material universe because then it would exist within the very universe it created. That is impossible.
Whatever caused the universe, existed beyond the universe. Since the universe had a beginning in time, and since matter and energy do not spontaneously change and arrange themselves into something new, then the best explanation for the cause of the universe is an action that was a decision.The cause must be personal because an impersonal force would be deterministic and mechanistic, not possessing free will. A mechanistic being only operates according to the programming it received from something else. But if the cause of the universe received programming from something else, then we have again not provided the answer to the cause of the universe. We have just found a middle-man. The cause had to make a choice to create and only beings who are personal can make choices.That description fits best to the God of the bible.
2. The universe is finely tuned to permit life on our planet.
Over 120 fine tune constants are know up to know, and as more time pasts, more are discovered. This might be due to chance, to physical need, or to design. Chance is a very bad explanation. Some advocate a Multiverse. But to have just one life permitting universe, you need 1 to 10^500 attempts to get it done. Thats a 1 with 500 zeros. If we put it in comparison, that in our universe, there exist around 10^80 atoms, this shows how improbable it is, that a Multiverse could explain finetuning. Beside this, the Multiverse argument does not explain away God. A mechanism needs to be in place to trigger these multiverses. It could not be by physical need, since if so, why are there many planets, which are not life permitting, but our is ? So its best explained by design. Our earth/solar/moon system is a very strong evidence. Our solar system is embedded at the right position in our galaxy, neither too close, nor too far from the center of the galaxy. Its also the only location, which alouds us to explore the universe, In a other location, and we would not see more than stellar clouds. The earth has the right distance from the sun, and so has the moon from the earth. The size of the moon, and the earth, is the right one. Our planet has the needed minerals, and water. It has the right atmosphere, and a ozon protecting mantle. Jupiter attracts all asteroids , avoiding these to fall to the earth, and make life impossible. The earths magnetic field protects us from the deadly rays of the sun. The velocity of rotation of the earth is just right. And so is the axial tilt of the earth. Beside this, volcano activities, earth quakes, the size of the crust of the earth, and more over 70 different paramenters must be just right. To believe, all these are just right by chance, needs a big leap of faith. This is indeed maibe the strongest argument for theism.