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Posted: 05 October 2012 10:04 AM   [ Ignore ]
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If anyone says that his/her religion is the only path to God and that other paths lead to hell, I have one humble question. The question is for every religion without any trace of partiality. The simple question is: Today I have heard your Religion and if I follow that, I reach God and if I refuse I will go to the hell for my own fault. This is very much reasonable. But before your ancestors discovered our country, the literature or even the name of your religion was not known to our ancestor and he could not reach God for no fault of him. But your ancestor reached God through your religion at that time.

Even if I assume that my ancestor will take rebirth now and will follow your religion to reach God, such possibility is ruled out because you say that there is no rebirth for the soul. Thus my ancestor suffered forever for no fault of him and the responsibility for this falls on the partiality of God. Had the God been impartial, He could have revealed your religion to all the countries at a time. Had that happened, my ancestor might have also reached God as your ancestor. Therefore your statement proves your own God partial.

The only way left over to you to make your God impartial is that you must accept that your God appeared in all the countries at a time in various forms and preached your path in various languages. The same form did not appear everywhere and the same language does not exist everywhere. The syllabus and explanation are one and the same, though the media and teachers are different. Can you give any alternative reasonable answer to my question other than this? Certainly not! Any person of any religion to any other religion can pose this question.

Moreover every religion states that their God only created this world. Unfortunately this world is one only and every God cannot create the same world. There are no many worlds to justify that each God created His own world. Therefore any human being with an iota of commonsense has to agree that there is only one impartial God who created this one world and He came in different forms to different countries and preached the same path in all the languages simultaneously at one time.

Let this logic sword of the divine knowledge cut the rigid conservatism of the religious fans in this world to establish the Universal Peace. I need not beg all these religious followers to be united and harmonious to each other for the sake of world peace. Such begging appeals are made enough in the past. The religious fans feel that there is no unity really in the religions but they have to be united since their kind hearts melted by these appeals. Thus a temporary change was only brought. At the maximum one generation of the followers got united. The next generation fights with each other because they feel that there is no real unity in them due to lack of the real unity in their religious scriptures.

A permanent solution for this does not lie in the begging appeals, which may or may not unite the followers. Even if the appeals unite such unity is not permanent. If the real unity in all the religious scriptures is exposed through the logical divine knowledge, the followers have to be united for generations together. Therefore, My attack is not on the hearts of the followers through love and kindness. My attack is on all the religious scriptures through intellectual logical analysis of divine knowledge. The unity of hearts through love can be only temporary. The unity of brains through intellectual analytical divine knowledge will be permanent. Hearts agree but brains realize. Agreement is temporary, but realization is permanent. Thus this is My first blow of My divine Conch shell for the permanent unity of all the religions aiming at eternal Universal Peace.

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Posted: 07 October 2012 04:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Dattaswami1 I almost feel that you’re setting up too much of a stage. It has been my experience that many religious people have a one liner thought process. Once you go into the if A = D then why does D - B not = C, then you pretty much lose people’s interest in what your discussion is. I also noticed that you really didn’t ask a question. You were more of trying to guide the person through a set of ideas ultimately to come up to some grand conclusion.

I personally think that it’s best to not play by their rules and by this I mean that I’ll just say that their is absolutely no proof to support their beliefs and even go as far to ask them if they know how their Bible came to be. You’d be surprised just how many Christians have no idea about the roots of their religion much less do they seem to care to know and if they choose to say that they don’t care, then I change the argument to “Maybe you should find out how it came to be before you even begin to tell me that it’s the word of God. Similar to your argument, I’ll bring up the fact that had they were born in another country such as Saudi Arabia, that the probability of them their beliefs would be vastly different and that they’d be preaching about how Islamic is the only truth. But even with these type of arguments you’ll find that the person won’t change their views, so I’ve changed from trying to be the guy converting to being the guy who tries to get people thinking logically.

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Posted: 07 October 2012 09:35 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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ExMachina - 07 October 2012 04:24 AM

Dattaswami1 I almost feel that you’re setting up too much of a stage. It has been my experience that many religious people have a one liner thought process. Once you go into the if A = D then why does D - B not = C, then you pretty much lose people’s interest in what your discussion is. I also noticed that you really didn’t ask a question. You were more of trying to guide the person through a set of ideas ultimately to come up to some grand conclusion.

I personally think that it’s best to not play by their rules and by this I mean that I’ll just say that their is absolutely no proof to support their beliefs and even go as far to ask them if they know how their Bible came to be. You’d be surprised just how many Christians have no idea about the roots of their religion much less do they seem to care to know and if they choose to say that they don’t care, then I change the argument to “Maybe you should find out how it came to be before you even begin to tell me that it’s the word of God. Similar to your argument, I’ll bring up the fact that had they were born in another country such as Saudi Arabia, that the probability of them their beliefs would be vastly different and that they’d be preaching about how Islamic is the only truth. But even with these type of arguments you’ll find that the person won’t change their views, so I’ve changed from trying to be the guy converting to being the guy who tries to get people thinking logically.

One religion says that the God is awareness. Another religion says that God is all pervading cosmic energy. Another religion says that God is light and another religion says that God is fire etc. Like this, different created items of this universe were taken as the basic real God. Hence quarrels started, which were intensified by debates. People sitting before a dining table are quarrelling with each other since one says that the vessel is gold, another says that the plate is gold, another says that the spoon is gold and another says that the tumbler is gold. This quarrel will never end because no item on the dining table is gold! Everyone is treating a particular item as gold. Treating an item as gold is totally different from the actual item to be gold.

Similarly, the reality is that God is unimaginable, who is beyond this imaginable universe. The simple reason for this is that the universe is fundamentally constituted of space or volume, which is the basic subtle energy and God is beyond the space since God has no dimensions. Now you can treat any meritorious item of the creation as God based on the merits liked by you neglecting the defects. The awareness is not God because it is not all pervading. The cosmic energy is not God because it is inert. The light and fire also cannot be God for the same reason that they are inert. But any of these items can be treated as God for the sake of meditation and worship.

Such worship is called as the worship of representative model (Pratika Upasana). The direct worship (Sakshat Upasana) is also possible when God enters a human being to give right direction through propagation of right spiritual knowledge. In such case also, every such human being is God and the unimaginable God exists in such every human being. The human being is only the medium of God, but such charged human being can be treated as real God like the electrified wire being treated as the electricity itself.

Hence Krishna, Buddha, Jesus, Mohammad etc becomes God and there need not be any quarrel in this point also for the sake of world peace based on the harmony of religions. This fundamental concept is revealed since simultaneously it is fortunate that today there is confidence on the receiving power of the stable and steady scientific analysis of human beings.

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Posted: 07 October 2012 01:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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It seems apparent, swami, that you have no interest in any discussion, rational or otherwise since you completely ignored ExMachina’s post and continued with your babble.  It takes only a very short time for all of our intelligent members to realize you are a religious troll, to ignore you, and for you to fade away.

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Posted: 07 October 2012 06:22 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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He is right in one aspect. All religions have it wrong and they recognize it, but only in another’s religion because, of course, each religion is the only right and true one.

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