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Posted: 10 November 2012 06:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Those people are from a third world country, all right.  The good ol’ USA.


I heard this on NPR on the way to work the other day. It seems that after every election the disgruntled pump their fist in the air and declare “screw his place, I’m movin’ ta Canada”. The moderator interviewed Canada’s immigration director who stated that after the 2008 election exactly 4 Americans immigrated due to anger over politics. He went further to add that the two top reasons for immigration were jobs and love interests. Who knew? Americans views politics as a team competition (blue team-red team) anyway and after the dust settles, and a few brewskis it’s business as usual; the sun comes up and the busses run on time. And nobody moves to Canada; it’s just to damn cold up there and they don’t play football right.

 

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Posted: 12 November 2012 02:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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We all want stuff, and things.  Those of us who already have them, though, want more, and would much rather get more than see others get them.

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Posted: 22 November 2012 03:05 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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OK, somebody has to say it…..ciceronianus-how about the people the people who have stuff…..worked hard for it. The people who don’t have stuff but want it….must work hard for it ! As a Canadian I support socialism in many ways….I mean I am taxed very heavily. I have worked hard to educate and train myself. I work hard every day and I have been doing this since 1984….right after I flunked out of University. Life is work. You can hate it or love….you make that choice. But every one of us humans must try to put more in then we take out. Then there will be extra for the people who can’t make it. But please remember that is charity…NOT equality. I give because I have more not because we are all equal.

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Posted: 22 November 2012 06:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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I suspect that the exhorbitantly wealthy in the U.S., for the most part, do not share your philosophy of striving to put more in than you take out.  Many who are doing the best financially in our society seem to be working hard, but also manipulatively, in ways that don’t improve their society in any way, but does improve their own income.

The 50%-of-Americans-who-want-stuff-voted-for-Obama argument is specious, 1) because anyone who votes, presumably, has wants, and 2) it directly implies some sort of moral superiority to those who voted for Romney (i.e., Obama supporters only care about their own selfish needs and wants, while Romney supporters only care about America.)  Does anyone truly believe that Republicans care more about others than do Democrats?  But even if that is the case, which I doubt, then the majority of self-interested folks got their choice. Deal with it. 

Bottom line re: the election, Obama inspired more Americans to vote for him than did Romney, but Obama also won, in part because he had a better organization.  (I remember during the RNC of 2008, the delegates laughed at Obama’s credential of “Community Organizer”.  Some of us 50%+ who voted for Obama, did so because we knew he would be a vastly superior President to what Romney could be.)

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