Tim, give it up. You’re just grasping for anything now with links to what? Answering “Creationism” which does nothing to answer my questions to you re
how evolution of humans as part of the animal kingdom come to spend so much time and energy dealing with supposedly non-existent imaginary forces.
Deal with it, Tim. I know it’s a heartbreaker for the atheist mindset but there it is: atheism unable to explain how any intelligent lifeform that has reached the top of the evolutionary form for complex thinking comes to think that spiritual forces are real and not only that, comes to spending inordinate amounts of social time dealing with these supposedly non-existent forces. Human brains hardwired to have religious experiences. Why is that? How does that work for an animal facing the usual set of environmental conditions that form species? And how is it that these spiritual experiences do not follow individual fantasies like random drug experiences but follow definite traditional patterns as if there were invisible to us Archetypal forms running concurrent with human existence? These are the things your philosophy cannot give answers to, only blind guesses from people who are literally blind to spiritual influences, like you, and have to scramble around searching for some physical way to explain them, like your posting meaningless links to general atheist propaganda sites. Be a mensch and give in gracefully to higher logic.

The scientific explanation is quite clear, however, it cannot be accepted by a true-believer, so it’s a waste of time presenting it here.

Occam

arielmessenger - 24 November 2012 05:46 AM

Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon - 23 November 2012 10:20 PM

Isn’t a hoot that you continue to preach instead of discuss, and that you continue to knowingly and deliberately get absolutely everything wrong in order to promote your creed?

When you have to misdirect, misrepresent and flat out lie (And you knowingly do all three. Don’t even bother trying to deny it.) in order to promote your religion, then it’s time to rethink your belief system.

Ah, quit your whining. This forum is pack full of atheists trying to promote the atheist religious mindset each and every day and you know it but don’t want to look at what you guys do all the time. You just don’t like it when you get a taste of the same treatment you deal out to theists continually every day.

LL. Nope.  If anything it’s atheists who take their cue from theists who have been trying to force their religion down everyone’s throat for millennia.  It’s theists who don’t like it when they get a taste of the same treatment they’ve been dealing out to atheists and every opposing theist, continually, every day.  Look around you. Are there atheist buildings on every corner in every neighborhood in the land—or ‘Land o’ Goshen, can they be CHURCHES ? Is that music we hear constantly hymns to a god or are the atheist songs?  Are those people preaching from pulpits theist clergy or are they actually atheists proselytizing continually every day? We must have it all wrong!

Occam. - 06 December 2012 04:46 PM

The scientific explanation is quite clear, however, it cannot be accepted by a true-believer, so it’s a waste of time presenting it here.

Occam

Occam, the challenge is out to you too, you know. Produce the “scientific explanation” for how evolution has evolved our human brains to process spiritual phenomena if there is no spiritual phenomena there to process. Produce the “scientific explanation” for why any animal species successfully meeting all environmental challenges would devote so much time and energy into pursuits over non-existent things that, according to atheists, could not possibly influence anyone because they don’t exist. Yet here we are, 40,000 years later and as was pointed out, in most every society on earth human beings are honoring nothing according to atheists with massive buildings and many many of them, and cultural artifacts galore. Atheism smears human beings and human life by trying to rob people of the spiritual dimension obviously there as evolutionary response shows in most every human brain but lacking functionality in the atheist disability. Which atheist egos cannot stand to hear, the typical fundamentalist response, as we see once again, no “scientific explanation” for the above physical evidence for spiritual reality affecting human life. It’s simple: just answer these questions I posed and don’t divert the discussion with generalized atheist propaganda trying to be substituted for a reasoned argument. I want to see real answers if you’ve got any to these specific questions.

Creatures overgeneralize from experience. In particular, they tend to see agency where it doesn’t exist. It’s like seeing faces in the clouds.

The difference between now and then, of course, is that now we have the scientific techniques to test for such “spiritual” objects and forces. When we do so, we find nothing. All we find are brain misfirings.