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Pope Claims the Star of Bethlehem Was a Supernova
Posted: 24 November 2012 01:43 PM   [ Ignore ]
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That and other things are in his latest book.

The star of Bethlehem was a supernova, the one that German astronomer Johanes Kepler said happened around 7 to 6 B.C. According to Popestronomer Benedict, that’s when the baby Jesus came to this mortal world.
The birth of Jesus is a historic reality.
Jesus probably wasn’t born in Bethlehem. It was perhaps in Nazareth.
There were no ox or donkey in that place. That’s just dumb, says the Pope!
The Virgin was actually a virgin. That’s not dumb, says the Pope! “Is it true what we said that Jesus Christ is the only son of God and that He was conceived by the Holy Spirit and born from the Virgin Mary?” he asks. “The answer, without any reservations, is yes.” And that’s it. His reasoning is that, if God was able to do it because he has full power over matter. Real power, not like that Higgs Boson impostor. “If he doesn’t have full power over all energy and matter,” the Pope points out, “then he’s not God.” Of course.
Astrology is stupid, the Pope says. It’s baby who guides the star, not the star that guides the kid.

I wonder if the Pope realizes that it’s actually possible to test the supernova claim.

In 1572, a “new star” appeared in the sky which stunned astronomers and exploded ancient theories of the universe.

Now the supernova recorded by Tycho Brahe has been glimpsed again, by Max Planck Institute scientists.

They used telescopes in Hawaii and Spain to capture faint light echoes of the original explosion, reflected by interstellar dust.

This “fossil imprint” of Tycho’s famous supernova is reported in Nature.

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Posted: 24 November 2012 02:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I wonder if the Pope is familiar with the old Arthur C. Clarke short story The Star?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star_(short_story)

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Posted: 24 November 2012 02:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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mid atlantic - 24 November 2012 02:01 PM

I wonder if the Pope is familiar with the old Arthur C. Clarke short story The Star?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Star_(short_story)

That was a good story. I have long thought that if there is a god, it is one who holds irony most dear.

BTW, does anyone else think that Pope Benedict looks like a supervillain? IMO, he some really creepy looking eyes.

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Posted: 24 November 2012 02:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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TimB - 24 November 2012 02:19 PM

BTW, does anyone else think that Pope Benedict looks like a supervillain? IMO, he some really creepy looking eyes.

You mean:

SithPope.jpg

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Posted: 24 November 2012 03:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Spoiler alert! The pope was a nazi.


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Posted: 24 November 2012 03:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Doug, you have a sense of humor!?!  That was a good one.

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Posted: 24 November 2012 03:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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TimB - 24 November 2012 03:24 PM

Doug, you have a sense of humor!?!

Who, me?

smile

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Posted: 25 November 2012 09:45 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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dougsmith - 24 November 2012 03:40 PM
TimB - 24 November 2012 03:24 PM

Doug, you have a sense of humor!?!

Who, me?

smile

LOL

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Posted: 25 November 2012 12:44 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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dougsmith - 24 November 2012 02:30 PM
TimB - 24 November 2012 02:19 PM

BTW, does anyone else think that Pope Benedict looks like a supervillain? IMO, he some really creepy looking eyes.

You mean:

SithPope.jpg

LL. Hmm, separated at birth, perhaps?

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Posted: 25 November 2012 12:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Perhaps long, long ago, in a galaxy far, far away.  But I didn’t know Benedict was that old.

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Posted: 25 November 2012 02:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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No Luke, I am Il Papa grrr


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Posted: 25 November 2012 08:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I wonder if the Pope realizes that it’s actually possible to test the supernova claim.

I wonder if the Pope realizes a supernova is not a supernatural event?

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Posted: 26 November 2012 09:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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I’m a German Protestant.

I don’t like the current Pope.

I disagree with most of his views.

Many Catholics disagree with many of his views as well.

Germans find all Nazi comparisons extremely offensive, including the one made above. It’s like calling African-Americans niggers.

I wonder if atheists realize that the Vatican employs astrophysicists whose research includes the validation and application of the seven-filter Stromvil system for classifying stars in clusters in the Milky Way, the identification and cataloguing of spectrally peculiar stars and the measurement of meteorite physical properties such as density, porosity, magnetic and thermal characteristics.

http://www.vaticanobservatory.org/VOF/index.php/explore-our-work/current-research

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Posted: 26 November 2012 10:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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I was wondering when someone would bring the Vatican Observatory up.

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Posted: 26 November 2012 11:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Many Catholics disagree with many of his views as well.

Germans find all Nazi comparisons extremely offensive, including the one made above. It’s like calling African-Americans niggers.

No it isn’t, nor was it meant to be. I said the pope was a nazi not all Germans. Yes there is a growing nationalist movement in Germany but it’s still small enough to regulate and it’s mainly a knee jerk reaction to immigrants. And Benedict was a member of the Hitler jungend. I also know that he isn’t now . My comment was meant to be facetious and not an ethnic slam. I don’t know any Germans who relate in any way to the third reich, especially the kids. They’d like to forget that period in history but their teachers won’t let them. And your reference to African-Americans won’t wash. Germans don’t call themselves nazis as a cultural epithet.


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Posted: 26 November 2012 02:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Whether offensive or not, saying that Pope Benedict was a Nazi, is probably only loosely technically correct, at best.  What I know for sure is that he looks like a supervillain.

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