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Posted: 24 January 2013 11:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Little Bird off Heaven - 24 January 2013 12:13 PM

Mari Boine from Norway is also quite famous( at least in Europe).

I got a CD from Mari Boine, that’s great music.

Welcome to the forum too!

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Posted: 25 January 2013 12:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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asanta - 24 January 2013 04:36 PM

Yes and they are dying. I think one of them has fewer than 50 living speakers.

Yes, although some of Sami languages are already gone, there has been a lot to work to save them; and since 80s the situation has been better(although it is still not good).

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Posted: 25 January 2013 12:19 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Little Bird off Heaven - 24 January 2013 12:13 PM

Serious issue is also how to save three different Sami languages.

They have three different languages?  big surprise

Yes, in Finland they have three different laguages: Northern Sami, Inari Sami and Skolt Sami. And they are culturally heterogenous group: Skolt Samis are orthodox as other Samis are Lutherans.

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Posted: 25 January 2013 11:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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So is Finland really the “paradise” it seems to be? Best quality of life, best school system, etc. etc.  I see it has a national church too, which seems odd given that it also seems pretty liberal.

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Posted: 25 January 2013 11:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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CuthbertJ - 25 January 2013 11:26 AM

So is Finland really the “paradise” it seems to be? Best quality of life, best school system, etc. etc.

No, Finland is seventh. Norway is first.

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Posted: 25 January 2013 02:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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Welcome;

How did the little bird fall off heaven?

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Posted: 28 January 2013 12:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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CuthbertJ - 25 January 2013 11:26 AM

So is Finland really the “paradise” it seems to be? Best quality of life, best school system, etc. etc.  I see it has a national church too, which seems odd given that it also seems pretty liberal.

Well, i would not use the word “paradise” smile .. it always depends to what you are comparing. Okay, we have quite good social security system(Its kinda 2-track system communal and state sponsored KELA), and we have quite good public school system( i return tho the state church below), and public healthcare. But my point is, that they could be much more better; social security system has been made quite hard to use(and if you use it unnecessarily, and you may not know it yourself, social security may charge it back from you). School system is nowadays kinda headache, because there are “better” schools than other schools and parents try to put their kids to them, instead of some other schools(luckily we don’t have this problem with evolution teaching so large scale as in US).

And state church… i could open about this subject so much, but i try explain shortly: it may seem liberal outside, but there are great tendencies inside it; i mean liberals vs. conservatives. And inside it are many powerful conservative revival communities, for example Laestadian-Lutherans( my great-grandparents were hard-line Laestadian-Lutherans) and evangelic groups. And regional differences are also huge in this case.

And religion overall is not retreating in Finland, maybe on contrary; Pentecostal churches receive every year 1000 new members.

And this quality of life; it also varies greatly in different parts of the country; i mean between East-Finland and West-Finland and between South-Finland and North-Finland. And we could spend alcohol less. Really.

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Posted: 29 January 2013 09:59 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 23 ]
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garythehuman - 25 January 2013 02:48 PM

Welcome;

How did the little bird fall off heaven?

Than you. Maybe bird just realized that below the heaven was more fun, and more things to see smile Thats the sort way to put it.

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Posted: 29 January 2013 02:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 24 ]
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Little Bird off Heaven - 29 January 2013 09:59 AM
garythehuman - 25 January 2013 02:48 PM

Welcome;

How did the little bird fall off heaven?

Than you. Maybe bird just realized that below the heaven was more fun, and more things to see smile Thats the sort way to put it.

cool smile

Damn and I just started harp (Blues Harmonica) lessons figuring it was probably the only way I coud get into heaven.  cool smirk

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Posted: 30 January 2013 10:09 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 25 ]
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garythehuman - 29 January 2013 02:35 PM
Little Bird off Heaven - 29 January 2013 09:59 AM
garythehuman - 25 January 2013 02:48 PM

Welcome;

How did the little bird fall off heaven?

Than you. Maybe bird just realized that below the heaven was more fun, and more things to see smile Thats the sort way to put it.

cool smile

Damn and I just started harp (Blues Harmonica) lessons figuring it was probably the only way I coud get into heaven.  cool smirk

Do not take it that way wink because when you are playing you realize that maybe heaven is the place on earth. And after that you can be more happier, and more healthier(well that was my case, after i fell out of heaven) smile

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Posted: 04 February 2013 09:13 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 26 ]
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George - 23 January 2013 11:46 AM

Why did you decide to join only now, Little Bird? It looks like the party is almost over; I have never seen our forum this dead before.

Say something controversial. Anything…

Show us how, George.  Don’t expect others to do what you won’t do yourself.

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Posted: 05 February 2013 06:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 27 ]
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Lois - 04 February 2013 09:13 PM
George - 23 January 2013 11:46 AM

Why did you decide to join only now, Little Bird? It looks like the party is almost over; I have never seen our forum this dead before.

Say something controversial. Anything…

Show us how, George.  Don’t expect others to do what you won’t do yourself.

George has plenty of experience making controversial comments on these forums.  wink

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Posted: 06 February 2013 08:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 28 ]
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Posted: 06 February 2013 08:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 29 ]
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George has plenty of experience making controversial comments on these forums. 


Yeah, I was about to tell Lois to exercise caution or George will tell her to do something intimate with waterfowl! LOL

 

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