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Posted: 01 February 2013 09:45 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I thought THIS was rather amusing. Not the nasty note but that Applebee’s used privacy as an excuse for firing this worker.

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Posted: 01 February 2013 10:43 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Sorry about that Mac, I just now read your post. BTW, this sort of thing goes on much more than people know. The Sunday crowd in local restaurants frequently do this to the waitresses. Some even leave pennies as a joke. Also, Applebee’s sent a recent memo to all stores stating that as of Jan. all new hires may only work 28 hours because of the upcoming Affordable Health Care act. Their employees make on the average (as do most restaurant employees) $18,000 a year. Try living on that for a year. Now try living on that wage and raising children.

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Posted: 01 February 2013 10:46 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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It is comical.

Applebee’s just doesn’t want any controversy, so they probably figured that firing the waitress would be easier then criticizing the pastor.

However, Welch could be blamed for not keeping the mockery of customers between herself and coworkers, IMO.

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Posted: 01 February 2013 10:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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It is comical.

Applebee’s just doesn’t want any controversy, so they probably figured that firing the waitress would be easier then criticizing the pastor.

However, Welch could be blamed for not keeping the mockery of customers between herself and coworkers, IMO.


Welch knew that if she sought any kind of justice, reporting this to her GM would get her nowhere as the customer is always right, but the irony here is that a religious leader, exemplifying xtianity would mock someone who relies on tips to make at least a basic living and who was aware of it, would stoop so low as to pull this trick. If anything, he should have sympathized with her and given a 20% tip instead of 18. Maybe he hasn’t had to live on a wage that qualifies one for food stamps.


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Posted: 01 February 2013 01:30 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Obviously the comment on the receipt is wrong for all kinds of reasons not the least of which is as you said, this person is working hard for tips and to get that sort of comment at the end of a long day instead of a tip is the ultimate in rude, self centered, insensitive behavior. Reporting it to management only added insult to injury. You could almost excuse the stupid comment as being written in the heat of anger over something that may have happened ( maybe the service was horrible) but you cant use that excuse when you report it to the supervisor days later and get the person fired.

It’s just laughable that they portray this as a privacy issue though. Anything you write on something as public as a receipt is hardly private. And why was the writer embarrassed by it. If it was something to be ashamed of she shouldn’t have written it in the first place. Do we have some constitutional right to have our insults kept private after we hurl them at someone??

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Posted: 01 February 2013 02:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Thevillageatheist - 01 February 2013 10:43 AM

Sorry about that Mac, I just now read your post. BTW, this sort of thing goes on much more than people know. The Sunday crowd in local restaurants frequently do this to the waitresses. Some even leave pennies as a joke. Also, Applebee’s sent a recent memo to all stores stating that as of Jan. all new hires may only work 28 hours because of the upcoming Affordable Health Care act. Their employees make on the average (as do most restaurant employees) $18,000 a year. Try living on that for a year. Now try living on that wage and raising children.

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First I heard about the 28 hour limit;  if true I’ll have to stop going to Applebee’s.

Does the rule inculde management?

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Posted: 02 February 2013 02:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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I agree with Mac.  If one writes that note on a paper that’s going to be out of his/her control, it’s not private.

Too bad I never eat at Applee’s.  If I did, I could stop going there.  However, I do try to do my positive and negative shopping based on the companies’ behavior.  For example, Los Angeles just had a gun buy-back program, and Ralph’s markets contributed a significant amount of money to that.  I now go out of my way to buy my food there rather than at the other supermarkets in the area.

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Posted: 02 February 2013 04:52 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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First I heard about the 28 hour limit;  if true I’ll have to stop going to Applebee’s.

Does the rule inculde management?


Unfortunately it is true. My son is an assistant KM at one of our local Applebees and he has seen the memo. In fact upper mgt. had it posted on the bulliten board before the presidential election. And no, it doesn’t effect management. They already get medical benefits anyway. This is happening to restaurant and fast food employees everywhere, e.g. papa Johns pizza. I’ll never order one. These workers work their butts off for chump change and without a union, they’re fair game. No benefits,low wages and long hours, at least up to 39 weekly to prevent them from qualifying for medical benefits. It’s a form of legal slavery, and if they aren’t satisfied then they can be fired or forced out. Morale is extremely low and there are absolutely no incentives to improve service. Most young employees average about 6 months before moving on to another job, if they can find one. How does one take pride in their work when they are treated in this manner? BTW, as an assistant, our son doesn’t qualify for benefits either. He works full time and has gone back to college to finish his degree, thank heavens.


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Posted: 03 February 2013 02:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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One can’t help but wonder, if the morale is so low and attitudes made so negative among fast food workers, what the quality of the food they prepare is.

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Posted: 03 February 2013 02:53 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Occam. - 03 February 2013 02:40 PM

One can’t help but wonder, if the morale is so low and attitudes made so negative among fast food workers, what the quality of the food they prepare is.

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You mean if a Big Mac was prepared by a PhD who makes $200,000, it would be delicious?  smirk

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Posted: 03 February 2013 03:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Aw come on, George.  You know I didn’t mean that.  Rather, if a food preparer is angry because of being treated badly by his/her company, the chance that s/he will spit or flip some mucus onto your food or using it after it’s been dropped to the floor while s/he’s preparing it is increased compared to a worker who feels that s/he is being treated fairly by his/her employer. 

And, no, I don’t think that Big Mac would be delicious because that very highly paid person might think anyone who would bother eating fast food would be one of Romney’s 47% who doesn’t deserve getting high quality food.  angry

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Posted: 03 February 2013 04:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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I know you didn’t mean that, Occam. That was an attempt at trying to make a joke.

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Posted: 03 February 2013 08:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Thevillageatheist - 01 February 2013 10:43 AM

Sorry about that Mac, I just now read your post. BTW, this sort of thing goes on much more than people know. The Sunday crowd in local restaurants frequently do this to the waitresses. Some even leave pennies as a joke. Also, Applebee’s sent a recent memo to all stores stating that as of Jan. all new hires may only work 28 hours because of the upcoming Affordable Health Care act. Their employees make on the average (as do most restaurant employees) $18,000 a year. Try living on that for a year. Now try living on that wage and raising children.

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First I heard about the 28 hour limit;  if true I’ll have to stop going to Applebee’s.

Does the rule inculde management?

It was all over the news.The owner of Applebee’s specifically said it was because of ‘Obamacare’. I used to eat there, I won’t again.
The Good Christian Pastor, from accounts I heard, first demanded that everyone working that shift be immediately fired. A little hubris, do you think? And now she’s sorry? Yeah, right! She’s sorry about the blowback!

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Posted: 03 February 2013 09:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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It was all over the news.The owner of Applebee’s specifically said it was because of ‘Obamacare’. I used to eat there, I won’t again.

I might not either but they’re better then Ruby Tuesdays. Still there are others. Applebees isn’t the only one in town. The only gripe I have with boycotts is if they work, they people stuck with jobs there have a nasty tendency to lose what they have.

The Good Christian Pastor, from accounts I heard, first demanded that everyone working that shift be immediately fired. A little hubris, do you think? And now she’s sorry? Yeah, right! She’s sorry about the blowback!

The hypocracy here on the part of this pastor is breath taking, ain’t it?

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Posted: 04 February 2013 04:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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I might not either but they’re better then Ruby Tuesdays. Still there are others. Applebees isn’t the only one in town. The only gripe I have with boycotts is if they work, they people stuck with jobs there have a nasty tendency to lose what they have.


They’ve lost anyway. Actually those greedy bastards at corporate HQ have set this up. Now they are making the working schedules by computer to ensure that the workers have only the amount of hours I mentioned to offset the new act. This without even consulting their GMs who now have no input. It’s orders from headquarters now. And as you mentioned, it’s happening to restaurants everywhere in the US. Publicity and letters to upper mgt. will help better than boycotts. This is going to effect millions of those workers who are barely hanging on to their jobs, not to mention the quality of the food.

 

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Posted: 04 February 2013 06:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Aside from the ethical issues, (I’m completely on the worker’s side), I think I’d avoid eating at a place where the staff have little or no access to health care simply because the idea of someone with untreated TB or hepatitis preparing my salad kind of messes with my appetite.  If people can’t see universal access to healthcare as a right, maybe they could at least see it as an asset to society, like a fire department or public water and sewer systems.

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