The great secret that was revealed to Paul is a gift of grace, a free gift. In God’s sight our sin debt has been settled, we stand in righteousness before him right now. He sees us seated with Christ in heaven, we are right now the praise of the glory of his grace throughout eternity. It follows logically that this secret must not be read into the four Gospels or into the book of Revelation.

Paul’s insistence upon the reality of our union with Christ, as having died and risen again in him. The Apostle unfolds to us, we died with Christ, our standing being complete and perfect in Christ, we cannot grow in this standing. We may grow in the knowledge, experience, and enjoyment of it, our life is the outcome of our belief.

If we are ignorant of this free gift, we are easy prey for every minister of righteousness who may rise up. Nothing more is needed to be added, their is not a ordinance on the face of the earth that can make us complete. We don’t need to pass a satisfactory examination, or take another class, we stand in righteousness before God right now.

Thanks for any insight about this free gift.

Beware of Greeks bearing gifts.

newnature, you do realize that this is a forum of skeptics and freethinkers, right?

We don’t generally believe in any of this sort of theological nonsense.

Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon - 09 February 2013 03:28 PM

We don’t generally believe in any of this sort of theological nonsense.

What do you mean ‘generally’? We don’t believe in that nonsense at all!

Beware of tax collectors who ate bad rye and got Ergot poisoning on the road to Damascus, too. Especially ones who didn’t like women much.

What do you mean ‘generally’? We don’t believe in that nonsense at all!

If the introductions section is any indication, we do have a few believers among the regular membership. In all fairness though, they’re mostly diests, not believers in the silliness of the Abrahamic superstition.

newnature - 09 February 2013 09:02 AM

The great secret that was revealed to Paul is a gift of grace, a free gift. In God’s sight our sin debt has been settled, we stand in righteousness before him right now. He sees us seated with Christ in heaven, we are right now the praise of the glory of his grace throughout eternity. It follows logically that this secret must not be read into the four Gospels or into the book of Revelation.

Paul’s insistence upon the reality of our union with Christ, as having died and risen again in him. The Apostle unfolds to us, we died with Christ, our standing being complete and perfect in Christ, we cannot grow in this standing. We may grow in the knowledge, experience, and enjoyment of it, our life is the outcome of our belief.

If we are ignorant of this free gift, we are easy prey for every minister of righteousness who may rise up. Nothing more is needed to be added, their is not a ordinance on the face of the earth that can make us complete. We don’t need to pass a satisfactory examination, or take another class, we stand in righteousness before God right now.

Thanks for any insight about this free gift.

What utter nonsense.

I have a different interpretation of Paul falling off his mule.  Peter the Rock, Jesus’s brother and enforcer hit Paul with a rock from his sling and Paul learned from this to support Jesus’s mob, at that point led by another of Jesus’s brothers James.  Paul even worked after this incident at finding funding outside of Israel for the gang. He had found “god” Didn’t want any more “confrontations” with this organizatiion.

Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon - 10 February 2013 06:23 AM

What do you mean ‘generally’? We don’t believe in that nonsense at all!

If the introductions section is any indication, we do have a few believers among the regular membership. In all fairness though, they’re mostly diests, not believers in the silliness of the Abrahamic superstition.

True. I forget about them.

Well….let’s see!
Sin huh?
Original, huh?
In the garden of eden, huh??

OK….let’s see:
1. there was no garden of eden
2. there was no adam and eve
3. Ergo, no “sin” original or otherwise.
4. No original sin, no need for any “redeemer” or “redemption” or “savior”
5. No need for god to send his son to be executed
5. No need for any perp’s “suicide by police action” (Roman’s crucifying the perp)
6. No such “redeemer” born
7. No “virgin” birth
8. No “resurrection” of dead people - including the perp

Ergo….no need for christianity or islam

asanta - 10 February 2013 02:48 AM

Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon - 09 February 2013 03:28 PM

We don’t generally believe in any of this sort of theological nonsense.

What do you mean ‘generally’? We don’t believe in that nonsense at all!

Yea! 

I for one don’t trust the honesty of the person(s) who wrote that book you speak of.