anyone know what’s up with the ‘black ops’ conspiracy theories ?
Posted: 18 April 2013 09:40 PM   [ Ignore ]
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A friend has been telling me about reports that every time there’s a major terrorist attack, Boston and before.
FEMA or Department of Homeland Security happen to be having a “drill” in the neighborhood… it can’t be coincidence  shock 

. . .  what it is I haven’t a clue… now even the fertilizer plant near “Waco”  http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread940952/pg1

Sounds way bizarre to me, and I don’t have the interest to climb into that worm-hole, still I thought I’d ask around, see if anyone in the neighborhood knows about these reports and if they have any thoughts on it?  Since I’m going to have to listen to more of the same and would be curious to know a bit more background.

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Posted: 19 April 2013 04:10 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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Complete BS, of course. Ask your friend to predict where the next disaster will take place. After all, with his detailed knowledge of “black ops” he should be able to do so, right?

Associated questions: what counts as “black ops”? How many “black ops drills” are done in how many neighborhoods every day/week/month around the country?

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Posted: 19 April 2013 05:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Another example of connecting the dots to reach whatever conclusion is most dramatic! Some people just seem to be prone to believe this kind of nonsense.

The trauma center in Waco having “drills” is nothing out of the ordinary, trauma centers have to be prepared for unexpected events - as do any emergency response agencies. That’s probably the first thing I would mention, if I was arguing with those particular conspiracy theorists.

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Posted: 19 April 2013 06:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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so it IS ok to go out today and interact with a bunch of people in public red face

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Posted: 19 April 2013 04:58 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I agree with Mid Atlanic.  Just pointing out the similar timings of attacks and drills is not enough. I am also interested in knowing how your friend got this
information.
If you live anywhere near where the Boston Marathon bombing took place, then it may not be a safe idea to go out and about. The crazies behind the plot
could still be around.

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Posted: 19 April 2013 07:28 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Any chance the next incident will take place in one of the 250 cities that had black ops in the preceding year?

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Posted: 20 April 2013 01:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IRIpB2jkCRs

  A missile was fired at the fertilizer plant, maybe?  What’s next, men in black were spotted levitating near the explosion? tongue rolleye

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Posted: 20 April 2013 05:52 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IRIpB2jkCRs

  A missile was fired at the fertilizer plant, maybe?  What’s next, men in black were spotted levitating near the explosion?

This is a bit off topic but NPR did a brief story about a marathon runner from Texas who was almost blown up by the Boston bombers ( were they really Chechan????!), who returned home and watched the fertilizer plant blow up near his home. irony, fate, or coincidence?

 

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Thevillageatheist - 20 April 2013 05:52 AM

This is a bit off topic but NPR did a brief story about a marathon runner from Texas who was almost blown up by the Boston bombers ( were they really Chechan????!), who returned home and watched the fertilizer plant blow up near his home. irony, fate, or coincidence?

Proves he was responsible for both!

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Posted: 20 April 2013 08:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Fox news has broken the story about this alleged man. It seems that there was a violent, black furred bigfoot in the area and a woman caught it all on camera. Trust Fox to be fair, balanced and in… sane!

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/story/21303624/port-neches-abuzz-after-big-foot-sighting

 

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Posted: 22 April 2013 10:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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But here’s the problem with all the posters whose kneejerk reaction is to call black ops “BS”, “Fox news balony”, etc.  It’s easy to think your government would never do anything like that, it’s comfortable. But what if it’s true? Consider the Gulf of Tonkin episode. I’m sure many americans were having similar conversations to this thread:

OP: “What’s this I hear about the president, the naval commanders, the secretary of defense, and others lying about a US naval ship being attacked by North Vietnamese war boats. There were no attacks, and the story is just an “inside job” cover story to justify sending gorund troops.”
POSTER: “Pure conspiracy nutjobs want you to believe that. We were attacked, the officer of the ship says so, and it’s foolish to believe the government would or could lie about such a thing. It’s downright unAmerican to even think such a thing.”

HISTORICAL FACT: There was no such attack (Aug 4th is the timeframe in question, not Aug 2nd). President Johnson and his staff did in fact make the whole thing up so as to have a pretext for getting into Vietnam whole hog.

Again, I point you to Overthrow by Stephen Kinzer. Unfortunately the government absolutely WILL do all kinds of things that can easily be considered “nutjob conspiracies”. I’d go so far as to say that’s probably part of the playbook, to actively get their nefarious actions labeled conspiracy theories. It’s the perfect cover.

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mid atlantic - 20 April 2013 01:14 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IRIpB2jkCRs

  A missile was fired at the fertilizer plant, maybe?  What’s next, men in black were spotted levitating near the explosion? tongue rolleye

Not only were they spotted, we now know that these aliens thought this was an appropriate area for “passing gas.”  surprised

On the serious side however, my sympathies to the people of West Texas.

I wonder why the news media gives all kinds of publicity to the nutjobs like those with the Boston Bombings and so little to the “sytematic domestic terrorists” like the industrialists who shave corners on safety features to save a dollar, in the name of profit.  The crazies we will always have with us.  The capitalists need to pay the full expense for their operations, including adequate safety features and expenses for enviormental damages.

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Posted: 22 April 2013 04:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Well I survived the weekend safe and sound, {... and I dare say, a good time was had by all the well fed and hydrated musicians and volunteers   cool smile }
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CuthbertJ,
regarding your comment, I hear you. 
But, there was a purpose to that and the opportunity was taken advantage of
and the ‘powers that were’ created another war of opportunity to help solidify the military industrial complex’s strangle-hold on our economy and imagination.

However, what would the purpose be of these latest two candidates...
Boston… to instill fear and insecurity?  To ruin the fun innocence of the Boston Marathon?
Waco… to cover owners who couldn’t care less about anything but maximizing profits for the WallStreet Cannibals?  For non-existent government safety inspections?

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citizenschallenge.pm - 22 April 2013 04:49 PM

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CuthbertJ,
regarding your comment, I hear you. 
But, there was a purpose to that and the opportunity was taken advantage of
and the ‘powers that were’ created another war of opportunity to help solidify the military industrial complex’s strangle-hold on our economy and imagination.

However, what would the purpose be of these latest two candidates...
Boston… to instill fear and insecurity?  To ruin the fun innocence of the Boston Marathon?
Waco… to cover owners who couldn’t care less about anything but maximizing profits for the WallStreet Cannibals?  For non-existent government safety inspections?

I don’t disagree that Boston and Waco are what they are. But there are plenty of reasons to do things in a limited fashion like this. One being to test the media’s willingness to follow a predetermined “story”.  Another might be to whip up feelings of outrage and national pride.  Consider North Korea. Several accounts I’ve heard are that Kim Jong-un is just putting on all this bluster to fan national pride, faith in him as a warrior, etc.

I watched some of the coverage of Boston and it really struck me as play-acted, as if the media and the pres were following a script.  Not to minimize even a single death, but from the speeches and the wall to wall coverage, you’d think another 911 or worse happened. It just all seemed too scripted for me. But then again it COULD be scripted but not to hide a conspiracy but only to raise ratings…fear and that sense that something’s wrong sells. Just look at the success of the Fox show 24.

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Thevillageatheist - 20 April 2013 05:52 AM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IRIpB2jkCRs

  A missile was fired at the fertilizer plant, maybe?  What’s next, men in black were spotted levitating near the explosion?

This is a bit off topic but NPR did a brief story about a marathon runner from Texas who was almost blown up by the Boston bombers ( were they really Chechan????!), who returned home and watched the fertilizer plant blow up near his home. irony, fate, or coincidence?

 

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Coincidence, of course, but also cognitive dissonance, the root of all conspiracy theories.

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