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Posted: 08 May 2013 07:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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I was told they do realize it. But supposedly the old way was the natural way.

This whole natural thing is actually getting out of hand, IMO. They just reorganized our local grocery store with one third selling only natural products. In the middle they have a counter with en expert, a nutritionist. I wanna move to Vulcan.

Save me a seat. What the hell is natural anyway? Did they pluck the food out of the woods because if they grew it themselves where do they think the seeds came from? ALL commercially produced seeds are hybrids to begin with and are treated with a chemical coating to prevent insects from eating them before they germinate and seeds from hybrid plants usually can’t be used to produce the next crop. Ever eat a wild strawberry? Besides being tiny, they’re bitter. Sorry guys but we can’t go back to nature; everyone likes their strawberries fat and juicy. Frankenfood is here to stay.


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Posted: 08 May 2013 03:27 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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One of my cousins is ‘paleo’ obsessed. The trouble is, none of the food she posts as belonging to a paleo diet was available to our paleo ancestors.
Most of my atheist friends here in CA are rabidly anti GMO. I don’t even attempt to discuss it with them anymore. One posted a dishonest picture of a supposedly GMO corn ear next to a ‘natural’ ear, and guess which was roundly rejected by the birds and other wildlife? *facepalm* They swallow it hook line and sinker. They also point out that Europe has banned GMO, as if that is proof positive of anything. Large swathes of Europe are also anti-vaccination and believe in homeopathy… So. What….. sick my head hurts..

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Posted: 08 May 2013 06:03 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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I just finished an excellent book on paleo diet. Paleofantasy: What Evolution Really Tells Us about Sex, Diet, and How We Live by Marlene Zuk. I recommend it to anyone who is interested not only in paleo diet but also in evolution and skepticism.

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Posted: 08 May 2013 07:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Thevillageatheist - 08 May 2013 07:29 AM

I was told they do realize it. But supposedly the old way was the natural way.

This whole natural thing is actually getting out of hand, IMO. They just reorganized our local grocery store with one third selling only natural products. In the middle they have a counter with en expert, a nutritionist. I wanna move to Vulcan.

Save me a seat. What the hell is natural anyway? Did they pluck the food out of the woods because if they grew it themselves where do they think the seeds came from? ALL commercially produced seeds are hybrids to begin with and are treated with a chemical coating to prevent insects from eating them before they germinate and seeds from hybrid plants usually can’t be used to produce the next crop. Ever eat a wild strawberry? Besides being tiny, they’re bitter. Sorry guys but we can’t go back to nature; everyone likes their strawberries fat and juicy. Frankenfood is here to stay.


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Never mind, you can’t talk sense into food nuts. They’re the same people who swear by “alternative medicine.”

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Posted: 09 May 2013 06:17 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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I just finished an excellent book on paleo diet. Paleofantasy: What Evolution Really Tells Us about Sex, Diet, and How We Live by Marlene Zuk. I recommend it to anyone who is interested not only in paleo diet but also in evolution and skepticism.


I’m reading it now. Her book and Wrangham’s “Catching Fire” present a pretty clear picture of paleo life. New studies also show more incidences of cannibalism among Neanderthals than previously thought. The “good old days” weren’t actually so good!

 

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Posted: 09 May 2013 08:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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asanta - 01 May 2013 09:21 PM

Barley became the in fad about 10 years ago. Unfortunately, it has not gone away. I am allergic to barley and it is next to impossible to find bread without barley in it these days. Even french bread, which has no reason to use barley, has it. I finally found one brand that doesn’t use barley, but the last brand I used, suddenly added it a few years ago.  sick

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Have you tried baking your own? That way your are in complete control of the ingredients.  I have a recipe for delicious bread that doesn’t require much work and is successful every time. It takes time, but you don’t have to be there while it is developing. If you’d like to have the recipe, let me know.

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Posted: 09 May 2013 05:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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That GMO study has been pretty thoroughly dissected by quite a few skeptics: HERE are links to a few examples.

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Posted: 10 May 2013 04:06 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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Never mind, you can’t talk sense into food nuts. They’re the same people who swear by “alternative medicine.”

Lois

Anecdote: my wife’s cousin, a former teacher and school superintendent recently retired and got a PhD in of all things, naturopathy. IMO it’s only one step from homeopathy as they use “natural” medicines to effect a holistic cure. Yes, they are dualists. I guess this woo also touts antivax crap and he’s convinced his son not to have his grandchildren innoculated. I wonder how many people rely on this pseudoscience as well as religious sects who believe in this form of “natural” healing? I’m concerned that reliance on this woo will bring back the childhood diseases that were all but eliminated in the 60’s. My question is how can educated people actually believe that this snake oil really works? I just can’t wrap my head around it when pediatricians are telling parents this autism scare is just urban legend. Yet people still believe it? Fear banishes reason.


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Posted: 10 May 2013 08:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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Thevillageatheist - 10 May 2013 04:06 AM

Never mind, you can’t talk sense into food nuts. They’re the same people who swear by “alternative medicine.”

Lois

Anecdote: my wife’s cousin, a former teacher and school superintendent recently retired and got a PhD in of all things, naturopathy. IMO it’s only one step from homeopathy as they use “natural” medicines to effect a holistic cure. Yes, they are dualists. I guess this woo also touts antivax crap and he’s convinced his son not to have his grandchildren innoculated. I wonder how many people rely on this pseudoscience as well as religious sects who believe in this form of “natural” healing? I’m concerned that reliance on this woo will bring back the childhood diseases that were all but eliminated in the 60’s. My question is how can educated people actually believe that this snake oil really works? I just can’t wrap my head around it when pediatricians are telling parents this autism scare is just urban legend. Yet people still believe it? Fear banishes reason.


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Yes, and it’s obvious that most young parents have never been through a polio epidemic. If they had been their fears would be well placed—on the side of getting their kids vaccinated.  I also hear that whooping cough snd measles are coming back and kids are dying.  How long will it take parents to come to their senses about communicable diseases!

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Posted: 11 May 2013 07:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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Lois - 09 May 2013 08:57 AM
asanta - 01 May 2013 09:21 PM

Barley became the in fad about 10 years ago. Unfortunately, it has not gone away. I am allergic to barley and it is next to impossible to find bread without barley in it these days. Even french bread, which has no reason to use barley, has it. I finally found one brand that doesn’t use barley, but the last brand I used, suddenly added it a few years ago.  sick

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Have you tried baking your own? That way your are in complete control of the ingredients.  I have a recipe for delicious bread that doesn’t require much work and is successful every time. It takes time, but you don’t have to be there while it is developing. If you’d like to have the recipe, let me know.

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Thanks, Lois. I do bake my own when I get the chance. Home made bread is delicious.

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Posted: 12 May 2013 06:41 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Unfortunately, it’s even better with big globs of melted high cholesterol, high saturated fat, butter slathered on it.  red face

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Posted: 12 May 2013 08:23 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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Occam. - 12 May 2013 06:41 PM

Unfortunately, it’s even better with big globs of melted high cholesterol, high saturated fat, butter slathered on it.  red face

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Posted: 13 May 2013 10:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Much better for health, but it just doesn’t taste the same to somone who was brought up with butter smeared on most hot foods.  I need the salt and butyric acid flavor to enjoy it.  smile

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Posted: 14 May 2013 03:56 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Occam. - 13 May 2013 10:18 AM

Much better for health, but it just doesn’t taste the same to somone who was brought up with butter smeared on most hot foods.  I need the salt and butyric acid flavor to enjoy it.  smile

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I know you’re pretty worldly, but have you ever had really good olive oil? Not the cheap $1/gallon stuff. Some olive oils are flavored specifically for enhanced bread dipping. Including some pretty spicy-hot ones.

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Posted: 14 May 2013 04:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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Thevillageatheist - 09 May 2013 06:17 AM

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... New studies also show more incidences of cannibalism among Neanderthals than previously thought. The “good old days” weren’t actually so good!

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Hmm…  so does the paleo diet include Neanderthal meat?  Can you get that at Whole Foods?

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