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Time limits on legislation?
Posted: 14 May 2013 04:37 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Lois - 14 May 2013 12:36 PM

Controlling Congress is a fine idea if you can figure out a way to do it.  Just remember that changing the power of Congress would require the consent of Congress itself and possibly a change in the Constitution.  When has any body agreed to lessening its power?

Go read some of the earlier posts in this thread bemoaning problems with local governments. People giving up local power in favor of centralization is pretty common. And Congress does it every time they blame the President for a problem, indirectly telling people that it’s the President, not they, who should be responsible.

But, yes, going the other direction, to less centralization, isn’t common at all.

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Posted: 14 May 2013 08:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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TromboneAndrew - 14 May 2013 04:37 PM
Lois - 14 May 2013 12:36 PM

Controlling Congress is a fine idea if you can figure out a way to do it.  Just remember that changing the power of Congress would require the consent of Congress itself and possibly a change in the Constitution.  When has any body agreed to lessening its power?

Go read some of the earlier posts in this thread bemoaning problems with local governments.


People giving up local power in favor of centralization is pretty common. And Congress does it every time they blame the President for a problem, indirectly telling people that it’s the President, not they, who should be responsible.

But, yes, going the other direction, to less centralization, isn’t common at all.

I am quite aware of problems with local governments.  Local control is certainly not a cure-all or even something to be desired most of the time.

Blaming the president for problems is not exacly giving up control. It’s just shifting the blame. Not unusual. But, no matter how you cut it, it’s Congress that passes legislation, not the President. All legislative problems belong solely to Congress. Problems with executive decisions belong solely to the President. Nobody is served by muddying the waters.

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Posted: 15 May 2013 08:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Lois - 14 May 2013 08:14 PM

Blaming the president for problems is not exacly giving up control. It’s just shifting the blame. Not unusual. But, no matter how you cut it, it’s Congress that passes legislation, not the President. All legislative problems belong solely to Congress. Problems with executive decisions belong solely to the President. Nobody is served by muddying the waters.

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By law, yes. But shifting blame does actually convey some amount of social power. Look at how important the President’s committee has become to Congress for introducing major legislation lately. I don’t think that this would be the case if we didn’t see so much blame shifting toward the Presidency.

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Posted: 15 May 2013 10:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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TromboneAndrew - 15 May 2013 08:36 AM
Lois - 14 May 2013 08:14 PM

Blaming the president for problems is not exacly giving up control. It’s just shifting the blame. Not unusual. But, no matter how you cut it, it’s Congress that passes legislation, not the President. All legislative problems belong solely to Congress. Problems with executive decisions belong solely to the President. Nobody is served by muddying the waters.

Lois

By law, yes. But shifting blame does actually convey some amount of social power. Look at how important the President’s committee has become to Congress for introducing major legislation lately. I don’t think that this would be the case if we didn’t see so much blame shifting toward the Presidency.

Shifting the blame and taking credit (especialy when it’s not warranted) is the essence of politics.  It will never change, IMO.

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Posted: 15 May 2013 10:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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Lois - 15 May 2013 10:36 AM

Shifting the blame and taking credit (especialy when it’s not warranted) is the essence of politics.  It will never change, IMO.

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Oh, certainly. Remember, I’m just responding to your post on the previous page about people never giving up power, that there is actually a bias toward centralizing power.

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