I thought you said you don’t have time for semantic games? What you are calling the “Power of God” is the societal forces that make up how religion works and how the power structures of it are used, etc. You may also be touching on the desires we all have for connectedness but I’m not sure about that.
The results of a 2009 Pew Survey: 31 percent of U.S. adults believe “humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time.”
The math is looking like 75% of Americans are Christians and that 59% of those Christians do not believe in Creation.
So how can they be Christians?
I think they believe in “The Power of God”.
So when you say something like, “If the Atheist says they do not believe in god. They are wrong.” You are playing semantic games. Because atheists are using the words as they are commonly used. I’m not going to do definitions with you because I’ve read enough of your posts to know you will just go round in circles with them.
You need to read more of the posts. Example: Write4U Post #190 “Truer words were never spoken. History is filled with examples of “the power of god”.”
What I am seeing is that when the atheist views the Christian belief more closely they can see it is not always about the Deity and they do recognize there is the “Power of God”.
The “power of God” rests on his existence, regardless of whether you think of him as a bearded guy or white light. Likewise everyone has a different reason for believing. Some saw Jesus in a dream, others felt something during a Christmas sermon, others got it on a hike. What matters is none of them examined the experience and understood it was just an experience and not something that connected them to powers that don’t exist. Unless you count the power to be manipulated into dropping 20 bucks into a collection plate every Sunday.
Yes, Yes and Yes, we agree except on his existence. If you believe the earth is 12,000 years old and the whole story of creation then you have the bible’s deity. Otherwise you have the Power of God.
And it has been agreed that Christmas is not all about Santa Claus, but Santa Claus is about Christmas. I doubt you can tell me any personal facts or information about Santa Claus, you might know more about Rudolph the red nose reindeer than Santa Claus.
The same with God. The bible is not so much about the Deity of God as it is about the Power of God.
And that is where I find that if the Atheist takes a close look at this issue. The Atheist will agree there is a Power of God but they do not believe in the deity.
1. god or goddess
a god, goddess, or other being regarded as divine.
Where we differ.
What I am understanding you to say is that like Christmas is based upon Santa Claus and you can’t have Christmas without Santa Claus.
What I am saying is that the towns and people do not celebrate Santa Claus, they celebrate the spirit of Christmas. And Christmas is celebrate by many people who believe in the spirit of Christmas and do not believe that Santa Claus existed. Ask these people “Do you believe and celebrate Christmas?” And they will say “Yes”. Ask the same people “Do you believe in Santa Claus?” And they will say “No”.
The circle is broken. This is not semantic games.
I think you see power as some thing that is transmitted from God.
I see power as part of the makeup of mankind, like love and hurt.