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Mama’s, Don’t let your humanists grow up to be soldiers…
Posted: 19 June 2013 01:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 46 ]
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Why don’t you first ask yourself what is the military?
The CIA’s and NSA’s budget alone is larger than the Army, Navy and Air Force combined.

Who is a solider in the military?
The biggest war we got going today is in Economic Warfare with China.
On the NSA website three years ago the NSA had opening for 8,000 financial analysts and retired bankers. 

Our military is not just about the men in uniform. The biologist and scientist may be working for the military just as much and the guy on a ship in the Navy.

It seems like most of the battles our men in uniform have been fighting are in countries that we supplied and built the military forces and supported the leadership. 

The men in uniform have to go in when the CIA and NSA, and economic sanctions have become ineffective.

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Posted: 19 June 2013 04:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 47 ]
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Lois - 19 June 2013 03:29 AM

Sorry, I disagree.  All countries are imperialistic.  They do whatever they think is advantageous to themselves. It’s human nature. When the US or any other government tries to look as if it is working to counter imperialistic behavior what they are actually doing is countering imperialistic behavior from other countries so they themselves can be the top imperialists.  Imperialism is bad only when someone else is engaging in it.

Liberal democracies do not always act imperialistically. There are a few perhaps, such as France, which still has imperial interests in certain areas of the world, but otherwise, for the most part, no liberal democracy maintains any empire. Also, do not mistake a nation acting in its own interests with being imperialistic. That would be like saying that people in general who behave in their own interests are out to oppress others and gain power over others. Many seek this, but it doesn’t mean everyone acting in their own interest is. Similarly with countries, a country acting in its own interest is just looking out for its own security and welfare. It doesn’t mean it is seeking power over others. And the United States never sought to counter Soviet imperialism so that it could be the top imperialist. If that was the case, the United States would have forcibly conquered other areas, such as Iraq, perhaps Bahrain, and who knows where else.

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Posted: 19 June 2013 04:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 48 ]
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mid atlantic - 19 June 2013 03:31 AM

[What reasons were there for Iraq?

The major one was WMD, although there were some lesser ones as well (which IMO themselves wouldn’t have been enough to justify invading—-for example, you could say Hussein was a brutal tyrant, but then so was Kim John Il and now Kim Jong Un).

 

I mostly agree with you here, but the terrorists are a bigger threat to Afghanistan itself, and it’s neighbors, then us.

I’d suspect that they are more bent on harming the United States than harming Pakistan or the Afghan people.

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Posted: 19 June 2013 04:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 49 ]
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MikeYohe - 19 June 2013 01:09 PM

Why don’t you first ask yourself what is the military?
The CIA’s and NSA’s budget alone is larger than the Army, Navy and Air Force combined.

Not sure where you’re getting that from, but that’s incorrect.

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Posted: 19 June 2013 07:19 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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Came out a few years back by a congressman he made the statement but could not give any figures because the budgets are secret. Nobody disagreed with the congressman. But most of the work done by the military contractors are done for NSA and CIA projects, sometimes they are done side by side with the military. And the military also works and gets paid by the CIA on projects. NASA does a lot of work for the NSA. When our government completely outfits an army in another country it is by the NSA and CIA.
Some years back I had a company that did theodolite training at major aerospace companies and also did work on satellites. Most the projects I saw are NSA. If the general public ever knew about the waist and mismanagement it would be front page. Our government likes secret budgets. In Los Angeles there is a whole company that is secret. You go to work in a bus with painted windows. No name for the company, it is known by the workers as Secret City.  Sort of like Area 51.

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Posted: 19 June 2013 08:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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I agree, and would add countries that promote and back an agenda that could hurt or be costly to the United States. For example, Syria was backing people and groups that wanted to kill Americans. He stepped over the line and the United States wants him gone. The next guy may not be any better but he knows where the line is.

History has shown that you’re actually better off not directly controlling a country but better off indirectly controlling a country.

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