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Posted: 03 August 2013 07:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 46 ]
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There is no correct answer to this question; there are stances on the thinking of unions and employee wages.

I do not have enough information for me to pick one side or the other.

My thoughts if I was a fast food business owner.

Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr they want $15.00/hr and will most likely settle closer to $9.50/hr.

So let’s look at the numbers per hour if the hour law was passed at $15.00/hr.

Wage   $7.25
Fica   $0.56
UI   $0.29
WC   $5.44 using 25% classification with a 300% mod factor.
Total   $13.54/hr

Wage   $15.00
Fica   $1.15
UI   $0.60
WC   $11.25 using 25% classification with a 300% mod factor.
Total   $28.00/hr

As a business owner I would fire all the workers and hire immigrant help thus lowering the Worker’s Compensation claims to a 0.70 modification factor rate.

Wage   $15.00
Fica   $1.15
UI   $0.60
WC   $2.63 using 25% classification with a 0.70% mod factor.
Total   $19.38/hr

The reason I think the WC will drop that much is because with Unions you can require the use of good doctors thus lowering the overall medical costs.

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MikeYohe - 03 August 2013 07:27 AM

There is no correct answer to this question; there are stances on the thinking of unions and employee wages.

I do not have enough information for me to pick one side or the other.

My thoughts if I was a fast food business owner.

Federal minimum wage is $7.25/hr they want $15.00/hr and will most likely settle closer to $9.50/hr.

So let’s look at the numbers per hour if the hour law was passed at $15.00/hr.

Wage   $7.25
Fica   $0.56
UI   $0.29
WC   $5.44 using 25% classification with a 300% mod factor.
Total   $13.54/hr

Wage   $15.00
Fica   $1.15
UI   $0.60
WC   $11.25 using 25% classification with a 300% mod factor.
Total   $28.00/hr

As a business owner I would fire all the workers and hire immigrant help thus lowering the Worker’s Compensation claims to a 0.70 modification factor rate.

Wage   $15.00
Fica   $1.15
UI   $0.60
WC   $2.63 using 25% classification with a 0.70% mod factor.
Total   $19.38/hr

The reason I think the WC will drop that much is because with Unions you can require the use of good doctors thus lowering the overall medical costs.

If you woukd do something so rash as to fire your employees and hire illegal immigrants,  you would be subject to legal sanctions and your business would likely fail. But, go ahead, you wouldn’t be the first person to cut off your nose to spite your face.

However, I’m not in favor of raising the minimum wage.  I’d rather see fast food workers unionize and then take it from there.

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Posted: 03 August 2013 11:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 48 ]
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Cap’t Jack, you’re a man after my own heart!


Thanks Lois, I appreciate the compliment. My son has worked in the business for twenty years and he and his friends and coworkers have shared their stories with me, e.g. Last evening the restaurant he works for had three dine and dash tables. Not only were the servers knocked out of a tip but they, the servers are responsible for paying for the food, or risk being fired. These workers have NO protection either from the customers or the supervisors who may fire them over a trifle.

 

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Posted: 03 August 2013 11:44 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 49 ]
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What people do not understand is that forcing fast food restaurants to raise pay significantly will have unintended consequences, and many of the same people advocating for this are going to be the ones who ultimately lose out.


And there Cloak is the crux of your argument. Keep your peasant head down, shut up and be happy with the job that we, the corporate bosses have provided for you. If not, well you’ll be on the street begging for yet another dead end job and be happy to have one. What you advocate is exactly what caused the formation of unions in the first place. the restaurant lobbyists would like nothing more than to completely gut any government program meant to aid skilled and nonskilled workers and return to the halcyon days of lassez faire economy wherein the worker may be turned into a legal slave working longer hours with lower pay and hey why not return to chid labor? It would increase profits and the kids would need to work in order for the family to survive. Couple that with the ending the requirement for a general education and you have millions of unskilled and ignorant workers Ripe for the sweat shops who are consistently being told that they will lose out if they even attempt to improve their lives by begging the bosses for a pittance of the profits. You don’t get anywhere by being complacent and living a “by your leave” existence. And as I stated before, yes there were unions whose leaders mishandled the money and power but they don’t in any way hold a candle to the other side with their multimillionaire benefactors who buy votes and influence government legislation and their powerful lobbies who at one time actually ran the government, local, state and national, e.g. The railroad lobby. Want to know what it’s like to be poor and powerless, find a restaurant job.

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Posted: 03 August 2013 11:49 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 50 ]
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July 21,2013 Detroit Thread-General Discussion:

VYAZMA-Let the myrmidons work at Wal-Mart. Perhaps people are starting to wake up.

MidAtlantic-Damn, give the Wal-Mart workers a break, they don’t need to be called names.

Fast Food… Thread:

McGeyver-There are lots of people who work in those positions who are hard working, good, intelligent people…

MidAtlantic-Most are not, though. This is the problem

It’s different with fast food though, because fast food labor is frankly, worthless; it’s the lowest of the low.-and-
The best solution for the non-mouth breathers among them is to get better jobs.
-MidAtlantic

It’s always refreshing to see Flip Floppers who have no real position here.  They just like posting to hear themselves talk.
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Posted: 03 August 2013 12:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 51 ]
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If you woukd do something so rash as to fire your employees and hire illegal immigrants, 

I do not think you are seeing the whole picture. The reason a business would hire illegal immigrants is to stay in business. Otherwise the labor cost going from $13.94/hr to $28.00/hr would put you out of business.


you would be subject to legal sanctions and your business would likely fail

Depends on the state, if it has right to work laws then you can be replaced by lower waged workers. No business can legally hire illegal’s. All illegal’s have to present the proper legal paperwork to work. I guess calling them illegal was a poor choice of words, but probably closer to the real facts. 

But, go ahead, you wouldn’t be the first person to cut off your nose to spite your face.

It is called survival in the business world. The business man has to work with the cards that are dealt to him, or get out of business. No business man wants a bunch of employees that speak a language that he does not understand.

However, I’m not in favor of raising the minimum wage.  I’d rather see fast food workers unionize and then take it from there.

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Posted: 03 August 2013 01:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 52 ]
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Not only were the servers knocked out of a tip but they, the servers are responsible for paying for the food, or risk being fired.

A union would not allow this to happen. And I am sure it is against the law.

One out of four businessmen is fined by the government each year.

Most businessmen are not educated or trained to be businessmen, they learn by making mistakes and paying fines. Their only friend is the insurance industry who makes them pay dearly for the friendship.

What does the businessman know about insurances and governmental bookkeeping?
Nothing going into business.

I operated a labor management company in California years back and had over 900 businesses as clients. One of my requirements was that the business owner be in his third business. I found that once a business man had been put out of business at least twice before he make a much better client to work with.

I’m am not defending the businessman for bad behavior, just saying that most businessmen started out as employees and went through all the stuff you are talking about and when they got their own business they were going to do thing right and not take advantage of the employees. But once they became a business the unforeseen pressures caused them to act out of character.

In the business structure of sharecropping, you do not have these problems because the employer and employees are both invested in product income.

If I was operating a fast food, I would implement profit sharing as a labor management method.

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Mike-I’m am not defending the businessman for bad behavior, just saying that most businessmen started out as employees and went through all the stuff you are talking about and when they got their own business they were going to do thing right and not take advantage of the employees. But once they became a business the unforeseen pressures caused them to act out of character.

Mike using this same scenario, which I think is relatively a fair one, I think it is also safe to say that the business owners previous experience
as an employee taught him or her that they could probably be better off being the exploiter rather than the exploited.
Look at Costco’s business model. That guy pays his workers a decent wage. He’s still a billionaire.
Businesses do better when they invest in the whole package. I’ve never been to a Costco, but I hear the customers are satisfied.
Now look at Wendy’s or McDonald’s, or Kentucky Fried Chicken.
Disposable labor. Disposable plates and cups.  Disposable quasi-food. High Labor turn around. Just like the drive-thrus they operate.
Cheap, low quality food. Cheap low quality employment standards, wages and benefits.
Giving the public a product that is dubious and highly contentious on many debatable angles.
Junk food-Junk jobs!
But it is a business that makes billions of dollars. Everything about these businesses says exploitation.
They exploit their customers with gimmicks and unhealthy food.  Why wouldn’t they exploit their employees?
It’s a rotten business that makes billions. The employees want more of a stake in that business.

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Posted: 03 August 2013 05:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 54 ]
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Now look at Wendy’s or McDonald’s, or Kentucky Fried Chicken.

The employees want more of a stake in that business.

There is something that not right here.

There are some unions that deal with fast food and they are connected with the restaurant and bar unions that have been around a long time. This one is not. I would guess that this is a movement by a group of lawyers.

There are a fair percentage of fast food workers that would lose income by getting a raise. Many are on relief and minimum wage and less than forty hours lets them qualify for relief. They might make say $560.00 a month more and take home $450.00 of that after taxes, but they would lose $600.00 a month in food stamps. So I do not see this movement coming from all the workers.

I started a union one time. And it’s not that hard. I did it for the reason that unions can get around most labor laws to a point. The state let injured workers go to these worker’s compensation medical clinics for treatment and spent six weeks before we could get them to a real doctor and heal the injury. These clinics were known as millionaire mills and were jointly run by the attorneys and doctors. When an employee is hurt the best thing you can do is get him to the best specialist and doctors you can find as quickly as possible. It will be cheaper in the long run and better for the employee. 

The whole union thing here could be to solve a similar problem and could be backed by the big fast food chains to be able to lower their insurance costs and be able give the workers a raise at the same time, but not a 100% plus raise. In the fast food industry injury fraud runs rapped and most insurance companies will not touch fast food business.

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Thevillageatheist - 03 August 2013 11:44 AM

And there Cloak is the crux of your argument. Keep your peasant head down, shut up and be happy with the job that we, the corporate bosses have provided for you. If not, well you’ll be on the street begging for yet another dead end job and be happy to have one. What you advocate is exactly what caused the formation of unions in the first place. the restaurant lobbyists would like nothing more than to completely gut any government program meant to aid skilled and nonskilled workers and return to the halcyon days of lassez faire economy wherein the worker may be turned into a legal slave working longer hours with lower pay and hey why not return to chid labor? It would increase profits and the kids would need to work in order for the family to survive. Couple that with the ending the requirement for a general education and you have millions of unskilled and ignorant workers Ripe for the sweat shops who are consistently being told that they will lose out if they even attempt to improve their lives by begging the bosses for a pittance of the profits. You don’t get anywhere by being complacent and living a “by your leave” existence. And as I stated before, yes there were unions whose leaders mishandled the money and power but they don’t in any way hold a candle to the other side with their multimillionaire benefactors who buy votes and influence government legislation and their powerful lobbies who at one time actually ran the government, local, state and national, e.g. The railroad lobby. Want to know what it’s like to be poor and powerless, find a restaurant job.

Cap’t Jack

The bottom line is you have people who are doing tasks that require little to no skill, but want to be paid at the same level of someone who is doing tasks that require more skills. When you are doing a job that the general population can do with little to no training at all, demanding more money could simply mean losing your job to someone who is not asking for so much, such as a high school or college student who just needs some cash on the side. Or it could be someone who’s been out of work for a very long time, and willing to do whatever is necessary to bring a little more cash in. Do I believe that they have an unfair situation? Sure. Do I believe that they have a right to unionize on the issue? Yes, they sure do. However, the facts are that we are living in an situation where there are a LOT of people looking for work right now who are willing to get paid less than what these people are fighting for. All I am saying is that if they even get what they want (not likely), then it may not bring the intended outcomes that they were hoping for.

If I own a business, and I need someone to flip burgers all day long, then I’m going to reason that this job doesn’t require much skill, so I’m going to pay the minimum. However, if I’m needing someone to flip burgers, manage the accounting system, organize and manage the inventory systems while distributing tasks among the other workers, I’m going to need someone who has the necessary skills to do all of that, so I’m going to pay them more. Why? Because someone like that is more valuable. Why is he valuable? Because there are less people that can effectively do all of that and still be efficient. So, if the guy who does nothing more than flip burgers, and let’s say he’s not even that good at flipping burgers, comes to me and demands that I pay him as much as the guy who does all of those other tasks, what real incentive would I have to meet such a demand? Good will? Perhaps, but that’s up to me and nobody else.

We can call this “unfair” all day long and whine and complain about it, but this is reality. We can use emotionally charged terminology like “peasants” or “sweatshops”, but at the end of the day this is how the world really works.

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Thevillageatheist - 03 August 2013 11:18 AM

Cap’t Jack, you’re a man after my own heart!


Thanks Lois, I appreciate the compliment. My son has worked in the business for twenty years and he and his friends and coworkers have shared their stories with me, e.g. Last evening the restaurant he works for had three dine and dash tables. Not only were the servers knocked out of a tip but they, the servers are responsible for paying for the food, or risk being fired. These workers have NO protection either from the customers or the supervisors who may fire them over a trifle.

 

Cap’t Jack

Yes, I know. Food service is a job with almost no protections for the employees, and they’ve never been unionized as far as I know. It’s long overdue.

Lois

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Thevillageatheist - 03 August 2013 11:44 AM

And there Cloak is the crux of your argument. Keep your peasant head down, shut up and be happy with the job that we, the corporate bosses have provided for you. If not, well you’ll be on the street begging for yet another dead end job and be happy to have one. What you advocate is exactly what caused the formation of unions in the first place. the restaurant lobbyists would like nothing more than to completely gut any government program meant to aid skilled and nonskilled workers and return to the halcyon days of lassez faire economy wherein the worker may be turned into a legal slave working longer hours with lower pay and hey why not return to chid labor? It would increase profits and the kids would need to work in order for the family to survive. Couple that with the ending the requirement for a general education and you have millions of unskilled and ignorant workers Ripe for the sweat shops who are consistently being told that they will lose out if they even attempt to improve their lives by begging the bosses for a pittance of the profits. You don’t get anywhere by being complacent and living a “by your leave” existence. And as I stated before, yes there were unions whose leaders mishandled the money and power but they don’t in any way hold a candle to the other side with their multimillionaire benefactors who buy votes and influence government legislation and their powerful lobbies who at one time actually ran the government, local, state and national, e.g. The railroad lobby. Want to know what it’s like to be poor and powerless, find a restaurant job.

Cap’t Jack

The bottom line is you have people who are doing tasks that require little to no skill, but want to be paid at the same level of someone who is doing tasks that require more skills. When you are doing a job that the general population can do with little to no training at all, demanding more money could simply mean losing your job to someone who is not asking for so much, such as a high school or college student who just needs some cash on the side. Or it could be someone who’s been out of work for a very long time, and willing to do whatever is necessary to bring a little more cash in. Do I believe that they have an unfair situation? Sure. Do I believe that they have a right to unionize on the issue? Yes, they sure do. However, the facts are that we are living in an situation where there are a LOT of people looking for work right now who are willing to get paid less than what these people are fighting for. All I am saying is that if they even get what they want (not likely), then it may not bring the intended outcomes that they were hoping for.

If I own a business, and I need someone to flip burgers all day long, then I’m going to reason that this job doesn’t require much skill, so I’m going to pay the minimum. However, if I’m needing someone to flip burgers, manage the accounting system, organize and manage the inventory systems while distributing tasks among the other workers, I’m going to need someone who has the necessary skills to do all of that, so I’m going to pay them more. Why? Because someone like that is more valuable. Why is he valuable? Because there are less people that can effectively do all of that and still be efficient. So, if the guy who does nothing more than flip burgers, and let’s say he’s not even that good at flipping burgers, comes to me and demands that I pay him as much as the guy who does all of those other tasks, what real incentive would I have to meet such a demand? Good will? Perhaps, but that’s up to me and nobody else.

We can call this “unfair” all day long and whine and complain about it, but this is reality. We can use emotionally charged terminology like “peasants” or “sweatshops”, but at the end of the day this is how the world really works.


To claim that fast food jobs or restaurant or catering requires no skills is wrong.  Restaurant workers are at least as skilled as people in any retail operation, not the least of which is knowing how to deal with customers.  Many retail operations are unionized.  Restaurant workers are highly exploitable and exploited. I hope that with an attitude like yours you never go into food service.  It’s attitudes like yours that create the exploitation that goes on in the industry. Food service workers should be unionized because it’s the only way for tgem to be treated fairly.  Unfortunately, owners in the restaurant trade fight tooth and nail to be sure it doesn’t happen.  They apparently like treating their employees like chattel and claiming they have no skills. Not a lot different than the tactics business owners have used throughout history.

I prefer having my food served by people who are treated well and who are paid fairly. Having people preparing and serving food who are barely making a living, who are working under intolerable conditions and who are being exploited and receiving the lowest pay possible, does nothing for the appetite.  I am surprised that there isn’t more food poisoning in restaurants than there appears to be.

They should be unionized, for the sake of the employees and for the sake of the customers. Any business that can’t make it with a unionized workforce should not be in business in the first place.

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Lois - 03 August 2013 07:35 PM

To claim that fast food jobs or restaurant or catering requires no skills is wrong.  Restaurant workers are at least as skilled as people in any retail operation, not the least of which is knowing how to deal with customers.  Many retail operations are unionized.  Restaurant workers are highly exploitable and exploited. I hope that with an attitude like yours you never go into food service.  It’s attitudes like yours that create the exploitation that goes on in the industry. Food service workers should be unionized because it’s the only way for tgem to be treated fairly.  Unfortunately, owners in the restaurant trade fight tooth and nail to be sure it doesn’t happen.  They apparently like treating their employees like chattel and claiming they have no skills. Not a lot different than the tactics business owners have used throughout history.

I prefer having my food served by people who are treated well and who are paid fairly. Having people preparing and serving food who are barely making a living, who are working under intolerable conditions and who are being exploited and receiving the lowest pay possible, does nothing for the appetite.  I am surprised that there isn’t more food poisoning in restaurants than there appears to be.

They should be unionized, for the sake of the employees and for the sake of the customers. Any business that can’t make it with a unionized workforce should not be in business in the first place.

Lois

It’s basic economics, friend. If you want to be paid, for flipping burgers, the same as the guy who is 10 times more skilled than you, and has 10 times more responsibilities than you, then the owner is simply going to get someone who is willing to flip burgers for less. You can hate it as much as you want. I think it sucks for the little guy, sure. But that’s life. The amount of value you bring to the transaction will determine how much you can demand. If everyone else in the world can do the same thing you are doing with little to no training, then you aren’t bringing too much to the table, and your bargaining power is going to be low. You can call it evil. You can call it exploitation.  Hell, you can call it a hot dog if it makes you feel better. But other people call it life.

Sure, they have a right to unionize. Whatever.

If someone tried to trade you a bottle of faucet water for your car, would you accept the transaction? Why or why not? What if they threatened to call you “unfair” or claim “exploitation” if you refused?

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VYAZMA - 03 August 2013 11:49 AM

July 21,2013 Detroit Thread-General Discussion:

VYAZMA-Let the myrmidons work at Wal-Mart. Perhaps people are starting to wake up.

MidAtlantic-Damn, give the Wal-Mart workers a break, they don’t need to be called names.

Fast Food… Thread:

McGeyver-There are lots of people who work in those positions who are hard working, good, intelligent people…

MidAtlantic-Most are not, though. This is the problem

It’s different with fast food though, because fast food labor is frankly, worthless; it’s the lowest of the low.-and-
The best solution for the non-mouth breathers among them is to get better jobs.
-MidAtlantic

It’s always refreshing to see Flip Floppers who have no real position here.  They just like posting to hear themselves talk.
Another worthless opinion….Arbitrary positions, vague viewpoints, no real grasp of the issues.

I wasn’t being serious about Wal-Mart employees. But, some Wal-Mart employees are more skilled then almost all fast food employees.

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Thevillageatheist - 03 August 2013 11:44 AM

And there Cloak is the crux of your argument. Keep your peasant head down, shut up and be happy with the job that we, the corporate bosses have provided for you. If not, well you’ll be on the street begging for yet another dead end job and be happy to have one. What you advocate is exactly what caused the formation of unions in the first place. the restaurant lobbyists would like nothing more than to completely gut any government program meant to aid skilled and nonskilled workers and return to the halcyon days of lassez faire economy wherein the worker may be turned into a legal slave working longer hours with lower pay and hey why not return to chid labor? It would increase profits and the kids would need to work in order for the family to survive. Couple that with the ending the requirement for a general education and you have millions of unskilled and ignorant workers Ripe for the sweat shops who are consistently being told that they will lose out if they even attempt to improve their lives by begging the bosses for a pittance of the profits. You don’t get anywhere by being complacent and living a “by your leave” existence. And as I stated before, yes there were unions whose leaders mishandled the money and power but they don’t in any way hold a candle to the other side with their multimillionaire benefactors who buy votes and influence government legislation and their powerful lobbies who at one time actually ran the government, local, state and national, e.g. The railroad lobby. Want to know what it’s like to be poor and powerless, find a restaurant job.

Cap’t Jack

The bottom line is you have people who are doing tasks that require little to no skill, but want to be paid at the same level of someone who is doing tasks that require more skills. When you are doing a job that the general population can do with little to no training at all, demanding more money could simply mean losing your job to someone who is not asking for so much, such as a high school or college student who just needs some cash on the side. Or it could be someone who’s been out of work for a very long time, and willing to do whatever is necessary to bring a little more cash in. Do I believe that they have an unfair situation? Sure. Do I believe that they have a right to unionize on the issue? Yes, they sure do. However, the facts are that we are living in an situation where there are a LOT of people looking for work right now who are willing to get paid less than what these people are fighting for. All I am saying is that if they even get what they want (not likely), then it may not bring the intended outcomes that they were hoping for.

If I own a business, and I need someone to flip burgers all day long, then I’m going to reason that this job doesn’t require much skill, so I’m going to pay the minimum. However, if I’m needing someone to flip burgers, manage the accounting system, organize and manage the inventory systems while distributing tasks among the other workers, I’m going to need someone who has the necessary skills to do all of that, so I’m going to pay them more. Why? Because someone like that is more valuable. Why is he valuable? Because there are less people that can effectively do all of that and still be efficient. So, if the guy who does nothing more than flip burgers, and let’s say he’s not even that good at flipping burgers, comes to me and demands that I pay him as much as the guy who does all of those other tasks, what real incentive would I have to meet such a demand? Good will? Perhaps, but that’s up to me and nobody else.

We can call this “unfair” all day long and whine and complain about it, but this is reality. We can use emotionally charged terminology like “peasants” or “sweatshops”, but at the end of the day this is how the world really works.


To claim that fast food jobs or restaurant or catering requires no skills is wrong.  Restaurant workers are at least as skilled as people in any retail operation, not the least of which is knowing how to deal with customers.  Many retail operations are unionized.  Restaurant workers are highly exploitable and exploited. I hope that with an attitude like yours you never go into food service.  It’s attitudes like yours that create the exploitation that goes on in the industry. Food service workers should be unionized because it’s the only way for tgem to be treated fairly.  Unfortunately, owners in the restaurant trade fight tooth and nail to be sure it doesn’t happen.  They apparently like treating their employees like chattel and claiming they have no skills. Not a lot different than the tactics business owners have used throughout history.

I prefer having my food served by people who are treated well and who are paid fairly. Having people preparing and serving food who are barely making a living, who are working under intolerable conditions and who are being exploited and receiving the lowest pay possible, does nothing for the appetite.  I am surprised that there isn’t more food poisoning in restaurants than there appears to be.

They should be unionized, for the sake of the employees and for the sake of the customers. Any business that can’t make it with a unionized workforce should not be in business in the first place.

Lois

Comparing fast food to nice restaurants and catering companies is way the hell off.

The strikers are not trained chefs, bakers and maitre D’s.

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