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Posted: 22 August 2013 08:18 AM   [ Ignore ]
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i offer proof the bible has hidden formats which can be found by most people willing to put in some effort.

i was reading the bible for the 5th time when i spotted an error in the order of some words.

as you read psalms 78 notice verse 20. it reads as if 1/2 of it is out of order or it does not belong at all.

Psalms 78 (NASB)

10 They did not keep the covenant of God, And refused to walk in His law;
11 And they forgot His deeds, And His miracles that He had shown them.
12 He wrought wonders before their fathers, In the land of Egypt, in the field of Zoan.
13 He divided the sea, and caused them to pass through; And He made the waters stand up like a heap.
14 Then He led them with the cloud by day, And all the night with a light of fire.
15 He split the rocks in the wilderness, And gave them abundant drink like the ocean depths.
16 He brought forth streams also from the rock, And caused waters to run down like rivers.
17 Yet they still continued to sin against Him, To rebel against the Most High in the desert.
18 And in their heart they put God to the test By asking food according to their desire.
19 Then they spoke against God; They said, “Can God prepare a table in the wilderness?
20 “Behold, He struck the rock, so that waters gushed out, And streams were overflowing; Can He give bread also? Will He provide meat for His people?”
21 Therefore the LORD heard and was full of wrath, And a fire was kindled against Jacob, And anger also mounted against Israel;
22 Because they did not believe in God, And did not trust in His salvation.
23 Yet He commanded the clouds above, And opened the doors of heaven;
24 And He rained down manna upon them to eat, And gave them food from heaven.
25 Man did eat the bread of angels; He sent them food in abundance.
26 He caused the east wind to blow in the heavens; And by His power He directed the south wind.


>these words >20 “Behold, He struck the rock, so that waters gushed out, And streams were overflowing;
do not belong with the words of the story >19 Then they spoke against God; They said, “Can God prepare a table in the wilderness?
they do go with verse 15.

>i took psalms 78 over to my word processor. there i removed all the punctuations and numbers. like below. i left in the verse numbers 15 and 20 to give me a guide. you don’t need to read this. but its for you to copy and paste to see how you would go about finding the endings to the verses.

listen o my people to my instruction incline your ears to the words of my mouth I will open my mouth in a parable I will utter dark sayings of old which we have heard and known and our fathers have told us we will not conceal them from their children but tell to the generation to come the praises of the LORD And His strength and His wondrous works that He has done for He established a testimony in Jacob and appointed a law in Israel which He commanded our fathers that they should teach them to their children that the generation to come might know even the children yet to be born that they may arise and tell them to their children that they should put their confidence in God and not forget the works of God but keep His commandments and not be like their fathers a stubborn and rebellious generation a generation that did not prepare its heart and whose spirit was not faithful to God the sons of Ephraim were archers equipped with bows yet they turned back in the day of battle they did not keep the covenant of God and refused to walk in His law and they forgot His deeds And His miracles that He had shown them He wrought wonders before their fathers in the land of Egypt in the field of Zoan He divided the sea and caused them to pass through and He made the waters stand up like a heap hen He led them with the cloud by day and all the night with a light of fire 15 He split the rocks in the wilderness and gave them abundant drink like the ocean depths He brought forth streams also from the rock and caused waters to run down like rivers yet they still continued to sin against Him to rebel against the Most High in the desert and in their heart they put God to the test by asking food according to their desire then they spoke against God they said can God prepare a table in the wilderness 20 behold he struck the rock so that waters gushed out and streams were overflowing can He give bread also will He provide meat for His people therefore the LORD heard and was full of wrath and a fire was kindled against Jacob and anger also mounted against Israel because they did not believe in God and did not trust in His salvation yet He commanded the clouds above and opened the doors of heaven and He rained down manna upon them to eat and gave them food from heaven man did eat the bread of angels He sent them food in abundance He caused the east wind to blow in the heavens and by His power He directed the south win when He rained meat upon them like the dust even winged fowl like the sand of the seas
then He let them fall in the midst of their camp round about their dwellings so they ate and were well filled and their desire He gave to them before they had satisfied their desire while their food was in their mouths


>here are what i thought where the endings of verses.

listen o my people to my instruction
incline your ears to the words of my mouth
I will open my mouth in a parable
I will utter dark sayings of old
which we have heard and known and our fathers have told us
we will not conceal them from their children
but tell to the generation to come
the praises of the LORD and His strength
and His wondrous works that He has done
for He established a testimony in Jacob and appointed a law in Israel
which He commanded our fathers that they should teach them to their children
that the generation to come might know
even the children yet to be born that they may arise and tell them to their children
that they should put their confidence in God
and not forget the works of God
but keep His commandments and not be like their fathers
a stubborn and rebellious generation
a generation that did not prepare its heart and whose spirit was not faithful to God
the sons of Ephraim were archers equipped with bows
yet they turned back in the day of battle
they did not keep the covenant of God and refused to walk in His law
and they forgot His deeds and His miracles that He had shown them
He wrought wonders before their fathers in the land of Egypt in the field of Zoan
He divided the sea and caused them to pass through
and He made the waters stand up like a heap
when He led them with the cloud by day and all the night with a light of fire
15 He split the rocks in the wilderness
and gave them abundant drink like the ocean depths
He brought forth streams also from the rock
and caused waters to run down like rivers
yet they still continued to sin against Him
to rebel against the Most High in the desert
and in their heart they put God to the test
by asking food according to their desire
then they spoke against God
they said can God prepare a table in the wilderness
20 behold he struck the rock so that waters gushed out
and streams were overflowing
can He give bread also
will He provide meat for His people
therefore the LORD heard and was full of wrath
and a fire was kindled against Jacob and anger also mounted against Israel
because they did not believe in God
and did not trust in His salvation
yet He commanded the clouds above and opened the doors of heaven
and He rained down manna upon them to eat and gave them food from heaven
man did eat the bread of angels
He sent them food in abundance
He caused the east wind to blow in the heavens
and by His power He directed the south win
when He rained meat upon them like the dust
even winged fowl like the sand of the seas
then He let them fall in the midst of their camp round about their dwellings
so they ate and were well filled and their desire
He gave to them before they had satisfied their desire
while their food was in their mouths

>next i looked at verse 20 and seen the words are just not in the right place. i laughed when i thought the writer had made a mistake by losing his place when copying the text. verse 20 needs to go with verse 15. skip right down to the lines with spaces to see these 2 verses.

listen o my people
to my instruction
incline your ears
to the words of my mouth
I will open my mouth in a parable
I will utter dark sayings of old
which we have heard and known
and for our fathers have told us
we will not conceal them from their children
but tell to the generation to come
the praises of the LORD and HIS Strength
and His Wondrous Works that HE Has Done
for HE Established a Testimony in Jacob
and Appointed a Law in for Israel
which He Commanded our fathers that they should teach them to their children
that the generation to come might know
even the children yet to be born
that they may arise and tell them to their children
that they should put their confidence in God
and not forget the Works of God
but keep HIS Commandments and not be like their fathers
a stubborn and rebellious generation
a generation that did not prepare its heart
and whose spirit was not faithful to God
the sons of Ephraim were archers equipped with bows
yet they turned back in the day of battle
they did not keep the Covenant of GOD
and refused to walk in HIS Law
and they forgot HIS Deeds
and HIS Miracles that HE had Shown them
HE Wrought Wonders before their fathers
in the land of Egypt in the field of Zoan
HE Divided the sea and caused them to pass through
and HE Made the waters stand up like a heap
when HE Led them with the cloud by day
and all the night with a light of fire

15 HE Split the rocks in the wilderness
and gave them abundant drink like the ocean depths
HE Brought forth streams also from the rock
and caused waters to run down like rivers

yet they still continued to sin against HIM
to rebel against the MOST HIGH in the desert
and in their heart they put GOD to the test
by asking food according to their desire
then they spoke against GOD
they said can GOD Prepare a table in the wilderness

20 behold he struck the rock so that waters gushed out
and streams were overflowing

can HE Give bread also
will HE Provide meat for HIS People
therefore the LORD Heard and was Full of Wrath
and a fire was kindled against Jacob
and anger also mounted against Israel
because they did not believe in GOD
and did not trust in HIS Salvation
yet HE Commanded the clouds above
and opened the doors of heaven
and HE rained down manna upon them to eat
and gave them food from heaven
man did eat the bread of angels
HE Sent them food in abundance
HE Caused the east wind to blow in the heavens
and by HIS Power HE Directed the south win
when HE rained meat upon them like the dust
even winged fowl like the sand of the seas
then HE Let them fall in the midst of their camp
round about their dwellings
so they ate and were well filled and their desire
HE Gave to them before they had satisfied their desire
while their food was in their mouths

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Posted: 22 August 2013 08:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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part 2

>after some more editing. i found that 2 verses made up one sentence. then i re edited some more and more and found these groupings. these groupings became small paragraphs.
then i seen verse 20 is not needed at all.
when i got done this is what i seen. a hidden format.
then my mind raced around with words from the bible. mountains, hills. mother, daughter. father, sons.
wow, i did this to a lot of books in the bible and found like formats every where.
the biggest surprise was how easy the bible was becoming to read after the formats are found.

>now here’s the funny part of this proof. have you ever read the jewish tanaka? if not you should go look at one. just by thumbing through the pages you’ll see these like formats all over this book.


listen o my people,
to my instruction.

incline your ears,
to the words of my mouth.

I will open my mouth in a parable,
I will utter dark sayings of old.

which we have heard and known,
and for our fathers have told us.

we will not conceal them from their children,
but tell to the generation to come.

the praises of the LORD and HIS Strength,
and His Wondrous Works that HE Has Done.

for HE Established a Testimony in Jacob,
and Appointed a Law in for Israel.

which He Commanded our fathers,
that they should Teach them to their children.

that the generation to come might know,
even the children yet to be born.

that they may arise,
and tell them to their children.

that they should put their confidence in GOD,
and not forget the Works of GOD.

but keep HIS Commandments and not be like their fathers,
a stubborn and rebellious generation.

a generation that did not prepare its heart,
and whose spirit was not faithful to GOD.

the sons of Ephraim were archers equipped with bows,
yet they turned back in the day of battle.

they did not keep the Covenant of GOD,
and refused to walk in HIS Law.

and they forgot HIS Deeds,
and HIS Miracles that HE had Shown them.

HE Wrought Wonders before their fathers,
in the land of Egypt.

in the field of Zoan,
HE Divided the sea.

and Caused them to pass through,
and HE Made the waters stand up like a heap.

when HE Led them with the cloud by day,
and all the night with a light of fire.

15 HE Split the rocks in the wilderness,
and gave them abundant drink like the ocean depths.

HE Brought forth streams also from the rock,
and caused waters to run down like rivers.

yet they still continued to sin against HIM,
to rebel against the MOST HIGH in the desert.

and in their heart they put GOD to the test,
by asking food according to their desire.

then they spoke against GOD,
they said can GOD Prepare a table in the wilderness.

20 behold he struck the rock so that waters gushed out,
and streams were overflowing.

can HE Give bread also?
will HE Provide meat for HIS People?

therefore the LORD Heard,
and was Full of Wrath.

and a fire was kindled against Jacob,
and anger also mounted against Israel.

because they did not believe in GOD,
and did not trust in HIS Salvation.

yet HE Commanded the clouds above,
and opened the doors of heaven.

and HE rained down manna upon them to eat,
and gave them food from heaven.

man did eat the bread of angels,
HE Sent them food in abundance.

HE Caused the east wind to blow in the heavens,
and by HIS Power HE Directed the south win.
when HE rained meat upon them like the dust,
even winged fowl like the sand of the seas.

then HE Let them fall in the midst of their camp,
round about their dwellings.

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Posted: 22 August 2013 08:36 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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i would like to hear your thoughts of what i found.
as you can see all the words are left in order.

when you read over and over the formatted version. did you notice how easy it is to read?

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Posted: 22 August 2013 08:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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I know a lot of the mistakes that crop up in the Bible are due to ambiguities in translation and other human errors.  Others are because many of the books that make it up seem to have multiple source versions, many of which differ (often in minor, sometimes in major ways).  And a great deal of them exist because the Bible was cobbled together from many books written by many different authors with varying theologies and political aims/views and over a considerable period of time.  Retconning and continuity errors are just sort of inevitable.

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Posted: 22 August 2013 10:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Too many notes, my dear Mozart.

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Posted: 22 August 2013 03:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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It’s not a hidden format.  It’s well known that much of the Hebrew Scripture is written using parallelism—Parallelism is the expression of one idea in two or more different ways.  It’s found a lot in Pslams and Proverbs, but can be in any of the books.  It’s a kind of poetic writing.

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Dead Monky - 22 August 2013 08:57 AM

I know a lot of the mistakes that crop up in the Bible are due to ambiguities in translation and other human errors.  Others are because many of the books that make it up seem to have multiple source versions, many of which differ (often in minor, sometimes in major ways).  And a great deal of them exist because the Bible was cobbled together from many books written by many different authors with varying theologies and political aims/views and over a considerable period of time.  Retconning and continuity errors are just sort of inevitable.

the differences you see among the 30+ bibles is a way to own the copyrights and sell the bible.

you mentioned many different authors have had a hand in making the books. i can tell you that after 5 yrs of work on the bible to find all the hidden formats. i can tell you each writer does step out on their own because of their style of writing. i call it read/tasting because they way a writer writes you can tell when some one has added a verse or 2.
ex. if you read this psalms with the format i’ve shown. you can read it faster and faster and tell its the same writer except read verse 20. there you’ll read/taste a difference style.

i will post a few that i’ll ask you if you can tell the different styles by read/tasting.

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George - 22 August 2013 10:34 AM

Too many notes, my dear Mozart.

sorry about that. i didn’t want people to say i didn’t prove my point of the bible have 1000’s of errors. i hope with the 1st 2 posts people might not jump on me later on when i post something they don’t like. ex. like hey dude, your putting your own words in there. or hey you are mixing the words around to make up what you want to find.
what i can tell 90% of the bible can be made to look like the format i put up. these formats make the bible very easy to read.

by the way. i’m the 1st person to own the out rights to the copyrights to the bible. what this means is others cannot copy what i’ve done to prove the out and out provable errors, lost endings, wrong startings to chapters, added text, etc etc.
i can even prove there is a book hidden within the other books. its like they just put a few chapters here and there in these other books. sounds weird, but very provable.

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LilySmith - 22 August 2013 03:35 PM

It’s not a hidden format.  It’s well known that much of the Hebrew Scripture is written using parallelism—Parallelism is the expression of one idea in two or more different ways.  It’s found a lot in Pslams and Proverbs, but can be in any of the books.  It’s a kind of poetic writing.

what i found is the formats can be found in 90% of the bible. small little paragraphs grouped neatly together. just think how easy it would be to read the bible if it was written like the way it was written. then ask yourself, why is it not written this way? post what your thinking came up with. you might find those reasons to be why the bible is not written so easy to read.

Genesis 1

in the beginning,
the CREATOR Created the heavens and earth.
earth was formless and void,
darkness was over the surface of the deep.

the SPIRIT of the CREATOR moved over the surface of waters,
the CREATOR Said let there be Light.
there was Light,
the CREATOR Sees Light as good.

the CREATOR separated Light from darkness,
the CREATOR Called Light Day.
darkness HE Called Night,
evening and morning were the 1st day.

the CREATOR Said let there be an expanse in the midst of the waters,
this separated the waters from waters.
the CREATOR made the expanse,
separating the waters.

that which were below the expanse,
from waters which were above the expanse.
so the CREATOR Called the expanse Heaven,
evening and morning were the 2nd day.

the CREATOR Said for the waters below the heaven to be gathered into 1 place,
Dry Land appear.
so the CREATOR Called the Dry Land Earth,
the gathering of waters HE Called Sea.

the CREATOR Sees this as Good,
the CREATOR Said earth sprout vegetation with plants yielding seed.
fruit trees bearing fruit from their kinds of seeds on earth,
this was so for earth brought forth vegetation.

plants yielding seeds from their kind,
trees bearing fruit seeds from their kind.
the CREATOR Sees this as Good,
evening and morning were the 3rd day.


now for those reading and reading these words. the words - gathered into 1 place - you might be thinking that sounds like the writer didn’t know the world has different land masses. you might even call it a Flat Lander View.
or you could say that if one removes - into 1 place - and replaced them with - so that -, and change the word appear to - appeared. would make more since today by knowing the world has more than 1 land mass.

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here is psalms 2
note the words that can’t be grouped like the rest of the psalms. any thoughts on this. missing words? or are these words added?


1.    why are the nations in an uproar?
2.    and the peoples devising a vain thing.
3.    for the kings on earth have taken their stand,
4.    as rulers they have taken counsel together.

5.    against YHVH,
6.    and against HIS ANOINTED.
7.    saying let us tear THEIR FETTERS apart,
8.    cast away THEIR CORDS from us.

9.    HE WHO is Enthroned in Heaven LAUGHS,
10.    the LORD SCOFFS at them.
11.    then SPEAKING with ANGER,
12.    HE Terrified them with HIS FURY.

13.  SAYING I have ESTABLISHED MY King on Zion,
14.    on MY HOLY MOUNTAIN He will surely Tell a Decree.
15.  YHVH WILL SAY You are MY Son,
16.  today I have BEGOTTEN Thee.

17.  ask from ME,
18.  and I will surely GIVE You from all the nations.
19.  for Your Inheritance,
20.  is to the end of earth for a Possession.

21.  { you shall break them with a rod of iron,
22.  you shall shatter them like earthware.}

23.    now kings show discernment,
24.  take warning judges on earth.
25.  worship YHVH,
26.  with reverence and rejoice.

27.  tremble and give homage to HIS Son,
28.  lest He Becomes Angry and you perish.
29.  for the way of His Wrath may soon be kindled,
30.  how blessed are all who take refuge in Him.

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one can say psalms 5 has 2 parts when you read this. your bible has it as listed as psalms 5 with no part 1 and 2. any thoughts? would you call this and error?


5     ( part 1 )

give ear to my words YHVH,
consider my groaning.

heed the sound of my cry,
help my KING my CREATOR.

i pray in the morning for YHVH to hear my voice,
in the morning i direct them to YOU.

i look to the GOD WHO takes no pleasure in wickedness,
for no evil dwells with YOU.

let the boastful not stand before YOUR EYES,
for YOU HATE all who do iniquity.

destroy those who speak falsehood,
for YHVH ABHORS a male of bloodshed and deceit.

by YOUR ABUNDANT LOVINGKINDNESS,
i will enter YOUR HOUSE.

by YOUR HOLY SANCTUARY,
i will bow with reverence.

YHVH LEAD me by YOUR RIGHTEOUSNESS,
because of my foes make YOUR WAY straight before me.

5       ( part 2 )

there is nothing reliable in what they say,
their inward part has destruction.

their throat is an open grave,
for they flatter themselves with their tongue.

hold them guilty CREATOR,
by their own devices let them fail.

for the multitude of their transgressions thrust them out,
for they are rebelling against YOU.

let all who take refuge in YOU be glad,
let them forever sing with joy.

shelter those who love YOUR NAME,
for they have exalted YOU.

YOU Bless the righteous man,
YHVH SURROUNDS them with HIS FAVOR like a shield.

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Virginwarrior, just so you know, in this forum, you’re kinda preaching to the choir. We’re extremely well aware of the mistakes and contradictions in the Bible!  wink

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Posted: 23 August 2013 05:29 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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by the way. i’m the 1st person to own the out rights to the copyrights to the bible. what this means is others cannot copy what i’ve done to prove the out and out provable errors, lost endings, wrong startings to chapters, added text, etc etc.
i can even prove there is a book hidden within the other books. its like they just put a few chapters here and there in these other books. sounds weird, but very provable.


I’m really confused here. Are you stating that you own the copyright on a book review critical of certain biblical passages like the “Skeptics Bible” for instance? So Technically I couldn’t cherry pick a biblical passage and criticize it without your permission? And are you referencing the “Quelle” from the Gospels when you mentioned a “hidden book”? If that’s the case then, yeah it’s very provable. Most bible scholars rely on it as a major source.

 

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Posted: 23 August 2013 06:39 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Have you read Richard Friedman’s “Who Wrote the Bible”? or are you familiar with the Documentary Hypothesis at all? Because it sounds like you are redoing a lot of that work. There are at least 4 or 5 sets of authors in the Old Testament and they were scrambled together during the last Jewish exile. This is fairly well accepted, although it is difficult to get scholarly agreement on something so sensitive to so many.

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Equal Opportunity Curmudgeon - 23 August 2013 04:58 AM

Virginwarrior, just so you know, in this forum, you’re kinda preaching to the choir. We’re extremely well aware of the mistakes and contradictions in the Bible!  wink

what’s strange is with these formats. you can’t deny what i can show is wrong.


crap i just push the button to unscribe from this site. i hope they let me back in.

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Thevillageatheist - 23 August 2013 05:29 AM

by the way. i’m the 1st person to own the out rights to the copyrights to the bible. what this means is others cannot copy what i’ve done to prove the out and out provable errors, lost endings, wrong startings to chapters, added text, etc etc.
i can even prove there is a book hidden within the other books. its like they just put a few chapters here and there in these other books. sounds weird, but very provable.


I’m really confused here. Are you stating that you own the copyright on a book review critical of certain biblical passages like the “Skeptics Bible” for instance? So Technically I couldn’t cherry pick a biblical passage and criticize it without your permission? And are you referencing the “Quelle” from the Gospels when you mentioned a “hidden book”? If that’s the case then, yeah it’s very provable. Most bible scholars rely on it as a major source.

 

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no, i own the copyright to the whole bible, the buddhist - diamond sutras - and the 1st chapter of all the books in the jewish tanaka.

what they can’t do is use my formatting.

john 1:5 calls GOD an it

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