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Posted: 09 November 2013 10:02 PM   [ Ignore ]
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What exactly is greed?
Is it wanting to take that which you don’t have from others, even though you don’t appreciate what you do have?

What is poverty?
Is it not having what you desire or disdaining what you do have because it’s less sensational than that which others posses?

What is happiness?
Is It surrounding yourself with property or immersing ourselves in humanity?

Why should we covet when we, so many times fail to share what we already have? Would we hoard what we would obtain or grant the access we would want for ourselves?

What is equality when we have skills that others do not? 
Is It access to something that some do not desire for? Is It opportunity which others feel no need to utilize? Is it an existence which all feel entitled even though they would gladly refuse the same to others?

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Posted: 09 November 2013 11:25 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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WuCares - 09 November 2013 10:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4HGQHgeFE


What exactly is greed?
Is it wanting to take that which you don’t have from others, even though you don’t appreciate what you do have?


What is poverty?
Is it not having what you desire or disdaining what you do have because it’s less sensational than that which others posses?

What is happiness?
Is It surrounding yourself with property or immersing ourselves in humanity?

Why should we covet when we, so many times fail to share what we already have? Would we hoard what we would obtain or grant the access we would want for ourselves?

What is equality when we have skills that others do not? 
Is It access to something that some do not desire for? Is It opportunity which others feel no need to utilize? Is it an existence which all feel entitled even though they would gladly refuse the same to others?


Greed is wanting more than you need and more than others have

Poverty is being unable to obtain what you need.

Happiness is being satisfied with what you have.

Equality is knowing that everyone’s opportunities are similar and outcome depends on how we use them.

What was your reason for asking and answering those questions?  I suspect you have a motive and that it’s nefarious.

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Posted: 10 November 2013 06:07 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Lois - 09 November 2013 11:25 PM
WuCares - 09 November 2013 10:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4HGQHgeFE


What exactly is greed?
Is it wanting to take that which you don’t have from others, even though you don’t appreciate what you do have?


What is poverty?
Is it not having what you desire or disdaining what you do have because it’s less sensational than that which others posses?

What is happiness?
Is It surrounding yourself with property or immersing ourselves in humanity?

Why should we covet when we, so many times fail to share what we already have? Would we hoard what we would obtain or grant the access we would want for ourselves?

What is equality when we have skills that others do not? 
Is It access to something that some do not desire for? Is It opportunity which others feel no need to utilize? Is it an existence which all feel entitled even though they would gladly refuse the same to others?


Greed is wanting more than you need and more than others have

Poverty is being unable to obtain what you need.

Happiness is being satisfied with what you have.

Equality is knowing that everyone’s opportunities are similar and outcome depends on how we use them.

What was your reason for asking and answering those questions?  I suspect you have a motive and that it’s nefarious.

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No I’m a humanist that is strictly as non materialist as I can be. I have a duffel bag of clothing and a laptop. I drive a truck and think most of what people call necessities are in fact luxuries that they can easily live without, but they want them all the same to occupy their time between bragging about what they have to others and ignoring society altogether.

I just wondered who here would lean towards the “I’ve got to have this new bobble” and who would go for the introspective and personal side of the equation.  Is that nefarious enough for you?

P.S. Those were not answers. They were options. I never siad you had to use any of them.

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Posted: 10 November 2013 06:15 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Lois - 09 November 2013 11:25 PM


Greed is wanting more than you need and more than others have

 

I agree with everything else that you wrote Lois but I’m not sure about this one. The word greed carries a more malevolent connotation in my mind but according to your definition nearly every American ( even those we would define as poor) are greedy because most of us have more than we need for survival and more than others in places like the Sudan. A poor child in the south Bronx who has enough food, a roof over his head and a TV has more than he needs.  I think that definition needs some tinkering.

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WuCares - 10 November 2013 06:07 AM
Lois - 09 November 2013 11:25 PM
WuCares - 09 November 2013 10:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4HGQHgeFE


What exactly is greed?
Is it wanting to take that which you don’t have from others, even though you don’t appreciate what you do have?


What is poverty?
Is it not having what you desire or disdaining what you do have because it’s less sensational than that which others posses?

What is happiness?
Is It surrounding yourself with property or immersing ourselves in humanity?

Why should we covet when we, so many times fail to share what we already have? Would we hoard what we would obtain or grant the access we would want for ourselves?

What is equality when we have skills that others do not? 

Is It access to something that some do not desire for? Is It opportunity which others feel no need to utilize? Is it an existence which all feel entitled even though they would gladly refuse the same to others?


Greed is wanting more than you need and more than others have

Poverty is being unable to obtain what you need.

Happiness is being satisfied with what you have.

Equality is knowing that everyone’s opportunities are similar and outcome depends on how we use them.

What was your reason for asking and answering those questions?  I suspect you have a motive and that it’s nefarious.

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No I’m a humanist that is strictly as non materialist as I can be. I have a duffel bag of clothing and a laptop. I drive a truck and think most of what people call necessities are in fact luxuries that they can easily live without, but they want them all the same to occupy their time between bragging about what they have to others and ignoring society altogether.

I just wondered who here would lean towards the “I’ve got to have this new bobble” and who would go for the introspective and personal side of the equation.  Is that nefarious enough for you?

P.S. Those were not answers. They were options. I never siad you had to use any of them.

 

Ok, I didn’t know where you were coming from.  It may be because I’m on another list where a member loves to ask benign-sounding questions and then goes into a rant, mostly about the need for laissez faire capitalism.

Lois

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Posted: 10 November 2013 09:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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Lois - 09 November 2013 11:25 PM


Greed is wanting more than you need and more than others have

 

I agree with everything else that you wrote Lois but I’m not sure about this one. The word greed carries a more malevolent connotation in my mind but according to your definition nearly every American ( even those we would define as poor) are greedy because most of us have more than we need for survival and more than others in places like the Sudan. A poor child in the south Bronx who has enough food, a roof over his head and a TV has more than he needs.  I think that definition needs some tinkering.

Well, everything is a matter of definition, isn’t it?  I agree that wanting to acquire more and more for reasons that have nothing to do with basic needs is human nature. But we all have our definition of greed, don’t we? What’s greed to me may not be to you and vice versa. Of course, we all tend to see others as greedy and ouselves as not taking or expecting “too much,”  whatever “too much” means. To me, the worst form of greed is acquiring things with the intention of impressing others and thinking that having more and bigger and better things than most others makes a person superior.

It’s a big subject that’s worthy of discussion.

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Posted: 10 November 2013 11:14 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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Lois - 10 November 2013 09:15 AM
WuCares - 10 November 2013 06:07 AM
Lois - 09 November 2013 11:25 PM
WuCares - 09 November 2013 10:02 PM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc4HGQHgeFE


What exactly is greed?
Is it wanting to take that which you don’t have from others, even though you don’t appreciate what you do have?


What is poverty?
Is it not having what you desire or disdaining what you do have because it’s less sensational than that which others posses?

What is happiness?
Is It surrounding yourself with property or immersing ourselves in humanity?

Why should we covet when we, so many times fail to share what we already have? Would we hoard what we would obtain or grant the access we would want for ourselves?

What is equality when we have skills that others do not? 

Is It access to something that some do not desire for? Is It opportunity which others feel no need to utilize? Is it an existence which all feel entitled even though they would gladly refuse the same to others?


Greed is wanting more than you need and more than others have

Poverty is being unable to obtain what you need.

Happiness is being satisfied with what you have.

Equality is knowing that everyone’s opportunities are similar and outcome depends on how we use them.

What was your reason for asking and answering those questions?  I suspect you have a motive and that it’s nefarious.

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No I’m a humanist that is strictly as non materialist as I can be. I have a duffel bag of clothing and a laptop. I drive a truck and think most of what people call necessities are in fact luxuries that they can easily live without, but they want them all the same to occupy their time between bragging about what they have to others and ignoring society altogether.

I just wondered who here would lean towards the “I’ve got to have this new bobble” and who would go for the introspective and personal side of the equation.  Is that nefarious enough for you?

P.S. Those were not answers. They were options. I never siad you had to use any of them.

 

Ok, I didn’t know where you were coming from.  It may be because I’m on another list where a member loves to ask benign-sounding questions and then goes into a rant, mostly about the need for laissez faire capitalism.

Lois

I refuse to accommodate people like that. They are every bit as blind to the malevolent side of capitalism as many of those who are religious are about the dark side of their faith. Sometimes I wonder if Capitalism has become a religion to some.  If that is so Wall Street would be Vatican City.

I’m sorry for the misunderstanding. You have a wonderful day!

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Posted: 11 November 2013 06:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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macgyver - 10 November 2013 06:15 AM

I agree with everything else that you wrote Lois but I’m not sure about this one. The word greed carries a more malevolent connotation in my mind but according to your definition nearly every American ( even those we would define as poor) are greedy because most of us have more than we need for survival and more than others in places like the Sudan. A poor child in the south Bronx who has enough food, a roof over his head and a TV has more than he needs.  I think that definition needs some tinkering.

But, we American’s have an excuse… we have been brainwashed from earliest awareness to want stuff, the more stuff the better.

Then we grow up and learn that the American business plan is to earn as much as you can by any means that you can get away with… and not to worry about externalities, {or maintenance for that matter}

Then we discover that too much is never enough… particularly those that never took the time to learn about themselves or the world that surrounds them, because they’d been so busy burying themselves in stuff that they don’t even know quite what to do with.

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Then we discover that our stuff, and the attendant mortgages own us, rather than the other way around.

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Greed is the desire to possess. It matters not what the intended possession is, but it reduces that which is desired to that of being an object. It de-emphisises the importance of humanity and the ignores the needs of others. Greed can only satisfy itself by more greed.

Poverty is not the lack of funds but the lack of compassion. Support can be gained through a multitude of avenues, but having no concern for others gains you the same sentiment in return and you end up an empty soul, bankrupt of everything humane.

happiness is something that if not shared with and by others has a hollow ring to it’s sound.

Equality is the simplest thing to acquire.  it only demands you unlearn what you’ve come to think of as truth by a fearful world. You want to see it in effect. Simply watch a child playing with another child and ask yourself which world is less sane. The world of a child or the world of adults.

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