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Posted: 16 January 2014 04:04 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 76 ]
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sine dues - 16 January 2014 03:50 PM

How come the government is not pursuing charges against windmill energy companies for killing birds ?
I feel the warm breeze of the green eco- double standard !
The EPA freaks out about nanograms of mercury in coal and yet they push cfl bulbs with more Hg than a coal plant.
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Canadian gov fines Syncrude a couple of million dollars for drowning 35 ducks in a tailings pond…but no charges for killing raptors and other rare birds…...

The number of birds killed by windturbines is surprisingly low, much lower than the number killed by buildings and other structures, most seem to be able to avoid them, although some species like raptors may be more at risk.

The number of waterfowl killed at the Syncrude tar sands tailings pond was over 500 and some sources put the number at over 1,000.

And it’s not just Syncrude that’s responsible for this.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/oilsands-tailings-ponds-kill-more-ducks-1.934577

Just hours after the Alberta government announced that ducks had landed on a Syncrude tailings pond, officials said similar incidents had occurred at ponds belonging to Shell and Suncor.

Earlier Tuesday, the province announced that ducks had been discovered on a tailings pond at Syncrude’s Mildred Lake facility on Monday night. About 230 birds that made contact with the pond’s toxic brew of bitumen-extraction byproducts had to be euthanized, according to Syncrude.

We’re also seeing deformed fish downstream from the tar sands.

http://www.thestar.com/news/canada/2010/09/17/deformed_fish_found_in_lake_downstream_from_oilsands.html

EDMONTON—The fish are hard to look at.

One whitefish has a golfball-sized tumour bulging from its side. Another is simply missing part of its spine, its tail growing from a stumpy rear end.

One has no snout. Another is coloured a lurid red instead of a healthy cream. Others are covered with lesions and still others are bent and crooked from deformed vertebrae.
All were taken from Lake Athabasca, downstream from the oilsands in northern Alberta, and were on display Thursday. All are reasons, say a group of scientists and aboriginals, for the federal government to conduct an independent study on what’s happening to the Athabasca River and its watershed after decades of industry expansion.

There are also clusters of rare cancers in some native populations in the area that depend on natural resources in the region.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/edmonton/fort-chip-cancer-rates-higher-than-expected-report-1.796418

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/health/Fort+Chipewyan+councillor+latest+resident+diagnosed+with+rare+cancer/9293994/story.html

On Oct. 29, the day after Chadi was sworn in as a councillor in the municipality of Wood Buffalo, the couple travelled to Edmonton. He had not been feeling well, and she insisted he see a doctor.

“His symptoms were vague, but he looked really, really sick,” Voyageur said. “His skin had started to turn yellow.”

Within 48 hours, Chadi was diagnosed with cholangiocarcinoma, the same extremely rare incurable disease that has stricken other residents of Fort Chipewyan, a remote First Nations community with a population of about 1,100 people in northeast Alberta.

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Posted: 16 January 2014 07:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 77 ]
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Fuzzy Logic that’s some depressing news.

and it doesn’t take long to find it just gets worse all the time.
That folks can justify some of this stuff is beyond amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvLoL-TaleA&list=PLgxorNv5xid1kXOLOJMvavPBW7-oTZOz6
Published on Dec 17, 2013
A first-hand look at Wright Sound, the epicenter for navigational routes proposed by the oil industry and governments that currently support these plans. This tiny body of water is where 5 major channels of British Columbia’s Inside Passage flow together and where most marine traffic in the region converges today.

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Posted: 16 January 2014 09:33 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 78 ]
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I think we can all agree humanity has a lot of work to do.

I for one am incredibly optimistic and eager for the future. smile

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Posted: 17 January 2014 02:38 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 79 ]
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citizenschallenge.pm - 16 January 2014 07:15 PM

Fuzzy Logic that’s some depressing news.

and it doesn’t take long to find it just gets worse all the time.
That folks can justify some of this stuff is beyond amazing.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvLoL-TaleA&list=PLgxorNv5xid1kXOLOJMvavPBW7-oTZOz6
Published on Dec 17, 2013
A first-hand look at Wright Sound, the epicenter for navigational routes proposed by the oil industry and governments that currently support these plans. This tiny body of water is where 5 major channels of British Columbia’s Inside Passage flow together and where most marine traffic in the region converges today.

It’s seems to be just a game for some people, I’m convinced our PM is a sociopath when you consider the likely outcome of his policies.

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Posted: 23 January 2014 01:11 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 80 ]
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Wow Fuzzy, You are prone to hyperbole ! Harper is not a sociopath….Kim jong un- yes, Mugabe -yes, Hussein (sadam not barack)- yes….you see where I am headed….call him a right-wing nut-bar or a far reaching preaching control freak but not a sociopath…..no not a sociopath.

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Posted: 23 January 2014 04:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 81 ]
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sine dues - 23 January 2014 01:11 PM

Wow Fuzzy, You are prone to hyperbole ! Harper is not a sociopath….Kim jong un- yes, Mugabe -yes, Hussein (sadam not barack)- yes….you see where I am headed….call him a right-wing nut-bar or a far reaching preaching control freak but not a sociopath…..no not a sociopath.

Why are right-wing nut-bars allowed to destroy very important public domain and scientific data and not be considered sociopaths?

Dismantling of Fishery Library ‘Like a Book Burning,’ Say Scientists
http://thetyee.ca/News/2013/12/09/Dismantling-Fishery-Library/
Harper government shuts down ‘world class’ collection on freshwater science and protection.
By Andrew Nikiforuk, 9 Dec 2013, TheTyee.ca

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What’s Driving Chaotic Dismantling of Canada’s Science Libraries?
http://thetyee.ca/News/2013/12/23/Canadian-Science-Libraries/
Scientists reject Harper gov’t claims vital material is being saved digitally.
By Andrew Nikiforuk | 23 Dec 2013 | TheTyee.ca

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People who don’t give a dang about the future and are only interested in enriching themselves no matter how underhanded and dishonest they need to get, regardless of the immediate and long term consequences - that deserves to be labeled as sociopathic IMHO

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Posted: 23 January 2014 04:51 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 82 ]
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How should one categorize something like this?

citizenschallenge.pm - 16 January 2014 07:15 PM

… and it doesn’t take long to find it just gets worse all the time.
That folks can justify some of this stuff is beyond amazing.

COASTAL TARSANDS Part #2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvLoL-TaleA&list=PLgxorNv5xid1kXOLOJMvavPBW7-oTZOz6

Published on Dec 17, 2013
A first-hand look at Wright Sound, the epicenter for navigational routes proposed by the oil industry and governments that currently support these plans. This tiny body of water is where 5 major channels of British Columbia’s Inside Passage flow together and where most marine traffic in the region converges today.

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Posted: 23 January 2014 10:36 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 83 ]
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DarronS - 12 January 2014 02:15 PM

This is going to be a crisis in Africa before the U.S. Matter of fact, Bangladesh has been suffering from a severe water shortage for the past 25 years. But MacGyver raises an excellent point about communities in the Desert Southwest. The core of the problem goes back to overpopulation. We have exceeded our planet’s carrying capacity and no amount of food/water planning can help us unless we do something to reduce our population.

What do you suggest?

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Posted: 24 January 2014 09:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 84 ]
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While education, contraception and mass sterilization all sound possible, it’s doubtful that enough of the world’s countries and religions would allow it so we’re stuck with the old standbys, war, famine, and disease.

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Posted: 24 January 2014 09:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 85 ]
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I’m afraid Occam is right. Maybe the new Pope will start telling Africans to use contraceptives, unlike his predecessor who lied and told them condoms spread AIDS. We need to do something to bring down our population dramatically. We also need to stop wasting energy. One-third of my neighbors leave their outside lights on 24/7. We need to stop consuming meat in the quantities we westerners are accustomed to consuming. There are myriad little ways we can greatly reduce our GHG emissions, but none of them will matter if there are eight billion of us consuming resources. I believe the odds are pretty long that our species will choose the right path instead of continuing our profligate ways.

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Posted: 24 January 2014 09:55 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 86 ]
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Humanity is well beyond the natural carrying capacity of the planet. However, we’ve barely scratched the surface of the artificial carrying capacity of the planet.

Hence I’m not worried in the slightest and the future is looking very bright indeed. smile

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Posted: 24 January 2014 09:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 87 ]
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DarronS-  Whoa, I agree with everything that you wrote in that last paragraph…..I must be coming down with something….

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Posted: 24 January 2014 10:08 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 88 ]
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Robert Walper - 24 January 2014 09:55 AM

Humanity is well beyond the natural carrying capacity of the planet. However, we’ve barely scratched the surface of the artificial carrying capacity of the planet.

Hence I’m not worried in the slightest and the future is looking very bright indeed. smile

I forgot to mention that light pollution is a major problem.  wink

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Posted: 24 January 2014 10:34 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 89 ]
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This quote from Thomas Malthus is appropriate:

 “The power of population is so superior to the power of the Earth to produce subsistence for man, that premature death must in some shape or other visit the human race.”

The Earth can sustain between 9 and 10 billion humans and then disaster, i.e. famine will cull out the population. Wars have been fought over far less. That means that the four horsemen will be riding into our future if we don’t plan to limit the population and clean up the environment.


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Posted: 24 January 2014 10:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 90 ]
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BTW, you can watch it happen in real time here:


http://www.worldometers.info/world-population/


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