I am saying that someone who drinks knows right from wrong as well as anyone else but drinking removes the inhibitions that otherwise hold you back from dong things you know are wrong.
Sorry, Mac, but this is a case where you are quite incorrect. It’s much more than just lowering inhibitions against misbehavior. A drunk does not know but ignore his moral behavior when sober. That morality can completely disappear from what remains of the person’s consciousness.
I’m not claiming that they should be given a pass for anything they do to cause others pain or difficulty. Rather, they can do things that may harm themselves without even realizing it. An example: Many years ago I walked into the lavatory next to a meeting room. One of the other guys (who had had a great deal to drink) was standing at a urinal. As I finished he began to curse violently. Then I saw the problem. He had opened his pants, took out his penis (but it slipped back inside his pants) and began to urinate. He wasn’t even aware of the fact that he had completely soaked the front of his suit pants from crotch to ankle with urine until he reached down to close his fly. I assure you, Mac, that he didn’t do this just because of lowered inhibitions.
I wasn’t saying that loss of inhibition is the only affect that alcohol has. It also affects perception and coordination and in extreme cases it can lead to unconsciousness and even respiratory depression and death. The thing is that this is a gradual process and at the point that you are feeling disinhibition you still have a good idea of right and wrong.
The woman we are talking about here made a conscious decision to have a drink when she was fully capable of making such decisions. She then chose to have a second, and a third and maybe a fourth or fifth. Along the way at some point there was a person who was perfectly capable of making a good decision who knew she was getting drunk and said to herself “I think I’ll have another”. When she made that decision she lost the right to blame anyone else. Whatever happened beyond that point is pretty irrelevant. Even if she could no longer make an intelligent decision after that point she had already made a series of decisions to get intoxicated. So now she wants to claim that she shouldn’t be held responsible for the first 3 or 4 drinks that made her incapable of making a good decision but the bartender should be blamed for next drink or two that exacerbated things. It seems pretty hypocritical.
I also find it hypocritical that we as a society are very comfortable blaming an individual who drinks and harms others but more than willing to shift the blame of someone who drinks and harms themselves. Its a need we all seem to have as humans to find someone to blame for our misfortunes. It feels better if we can target our anger, embarrassment, and frustration at something or someone else. There’s nothing “feel good” about saying “Gee I was a real idiot”. If a drunk kills someone then we blame the drunk, but if a drunk girl falls overboard its not as satisfying to blame the drunk ( especially if you’re the drunk girl). It feels better to find someone else to blame, hence the bartender becomes the target.