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Posted: 22 January 2014 06:04 AM   [ Ignore ]
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I hope not.  Frankly I despise labels, especially one word labels and agree with what Dr. Tyson says about them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSMC5rWvos

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Posted: 23 January 2014 08:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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deros - 22 January 2014 06:04 AM

I hope not.  Frankly I despise labels, especially one word labels and agree with what Dr. Tyson says about them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSMC5rWvos

It doesn’t seem like this is about “labels” so much as reflections on what it is be “atheist”
and deGrasse’s refusal to accept the “atheist” label.

“Neil deGrasse Tyson: Atheist or Agnostic?”

2:45 -  “…  trying to get people to think straight . . . 
just get you to be curious about the natural world . . .”
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following Neil’s musings around 3:00, I love the idea of a country club for “non-golfers”  LOL

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But, seems to me, Tyson’s point has more to do with not making a big deal about “not believing in god”
and instead focus on getting on with the world that you experience around you.

Not much arguing with that.

But, “labels” untidy as they may be, they do serve a function.
After all we do fit into categories, and categories are labeled.

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Posted: 24 January 2014 11:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Unfortunately most people let their labels determine their thinking on an issue, instead of the other way around. For ex, my favorite “I’m a tea partier, so keep your hands off my medicare”.

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Posted: 24 January 2014 12:40 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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deros - 22 January 2014 06:04 AM

I hope not.  Frankly I despise labels, especially one word labels and agree with what Dr. Tyson says about them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzSMC5rWvos

I don’t mind some labels: Humanist, Democrat, liberal, mother, good friend. Skeptic, atheist.

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Posted: 24 January 2014 03:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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I label myself “Human”.

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Posted: 25 January 2014 01:37 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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I like labels, and can’t live without them.

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Posted: 25 January 2014 01:41 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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mid atlantic - 25 January 2014 01:37 AM

I like labels, and can’t live without them.

It’s very hard to shop in a supermarket that doesn’t use labels.  red face

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Posted: 25 January 2014 01:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Lois - 25 January 2014 01:41 AM
mid atlantic - 25 January 2014 01:37 AM

I like labels, and can’t live without them.

It’s very hard to shop in a supermarket that doesn’t use labels.  red face

True enough.

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Posted: 25 January 2014 10:13 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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mid atlantic - 25 January 2014 01:47 AM
Lois - 25 January 2014 01:41 AM
mid atlantic - 25 January 2014 01:37 AM

I like labels, and can’t live without them.

It’s very hard to shop in a supermarket that doesn’t use labels.  red face

True enough.

But, on the other hand, humans are not cans of beans or bags of frozen French fries.

The problem with labelling yourself - or letting someone else apply a label to you - is that other people then tend to react to the label rather than to the human being behind it. Say of someone, “He’s a Muslim,” and (some) others will immediately think “fanatic, terrorist, murderer of innocent bystanders”, while the poor fellow is really a devoted husband and father, a doctor working in a free clinic, a volunteer at a food bank, and builds model sailing ships in his spare time. Say of someone, “she’s a feminist,” and immediately the associations “feminazi, strident, ideological, irrational lesbian man-hater.” spring to mind, when she’s actually a wife and mother with a PhD in physical chemistry who merely thinks that girls should have equal educational opportunities as boys throughout the world.

And say of yourself. “I’m an atheist”, and others immediately leap to the conclusion “narrow-minded, conceited, religion-hater, thinks he knows better than everyone else…..” when you’re ...... just another human being trying to make sense of your world…...
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Posted: 26 January 2014 05:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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I think it’s more of a dodge so that people stop hassling him about what he believes. Atheism, and Agnostic aren’t mutually exclusive.

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Posted: 27 January 2014 08:03 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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I think of them more as descriptive terms than labels, because people often misunderstand a label, and you have to explain what you mean.

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Posted: 27 January 2014 12:21 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Theflyingsorcerer - 25 January 2014 10:13 AM
mid atlantic - 25 January 2014 01:47 AM
Lois - 25 January 2014 01:41 AM
mid atlantic - 25 January 2014 01:37 AM

I like labels, and can’t live without them.

It’s very hard to shop in a supermarket that doesn’t use labels.  red face

True enough.

But, on the other hand, humans are not cans of beans or bags of frozen French fries.

The problem with labelling yourself - or letting someone else apply a label to you - is that other people then tend to react to the label rather than to the human being behind it. Say of someone, “He’s a Muslim,” and (some) others will immediately think “fanatic, terrorist, murderer of innocent bystanders”, while the poor fellow is really a devoted husband and father, a doctor working in a free clinic, a volunteer at a food bank, and builds model sailing ships in his spare time. Say of someone, “she’s a feminist,” and immediately the associations “feminazi, strident, ideological, irrational lesbian man-hater.” spring to mind, when she’s actually a wife and mother with a PhD in physical chemistry who merely thinks that girls should have equal educational opportunities as boys throughout the world.

And say of yourself. “I’m an atheist”, and others immediately leap to the conclusion “narrow-minded, conceited, religion-hater, thinks he knows better than everyone else…..” when you’re ...... just another human being trying to make sense of your world…...
TFS

There is no way to avoid having people “mislabel” you unless you say nothing at all. No matter what anyone says someone will get the wrong idea. Should we all hide in a closet about everything because someone might misinterpret who we are?

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Posted: 27 January 2014 01:43 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Lois - 27 January 2014 12:21 PM

There is no way to avoid having people “mislabel” you unless you say nothing at all. No matter what anyone says someone will get the wrong idea. Should we all hide in a closet about everything because someone might misinterpret who we are?

Lois

If you never say anything you will get labeled too. LOL

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Posted: 27 January 2014 09:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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VYAZMA - 27 January 2014 01:43 PM
Lois - 27 January 2014 12:21 PM

There is no way to avoid having people “mislabel” you unless you say nothing at all. No matter what anyone says someone will get the wrong idea. Should we all hide in a closet about everything because someone might misinterpret who we are?

Lois

If you never say anything you will get labeled too. LOL


Indeed, you will. No one can avoid a label.

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Posted: 30 January 2014 07:02 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Quoting Theflyingsorcerer:

But, on the other hand, humans are not cans of beans or bags of frozen French fries.

I don’t know, I’ve met some people who seem to fit the can of beans or french fry label.LOL

We are all complex and would require books to adequately describe us, however, if one wishes to focus on a single facet, a label may be a decent starting point.

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Posted: 30 January 2014 07:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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Labels? We don’t need no stinking labels!


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