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We know electron by what it does, not by what it is.
Posted: 22 January 2014 07:03 AM   [ Ignore ]
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We know electron by what it does, not by what it is.
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1900, 1905
Planck and Einstein found the energy of electron: E=h*f.
1916
Sommerfeld found the formula of electron : e^2=ah*c,
1928
Dirac found two more formulas of electron’s energy:
+E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2.
According to QED in interaction with vacuum electron’s
energy is infinite: E= ∞
But electron tied with atom by the energy: E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV
Questions.
Why does the simplest particle - electron have six ( 6 ) formulas ?
What is interaction between them?
Nobody knows.
Why does electron obey five ( 5) Laws ?
a) Law of conservation and transformation energy/ mass
b) Maxwell’s equations
c) Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle / Law
d) Pauli Exclusion Principle/ Law
e) Fermi-Dirac statistics.
What is interaction between them?
Nobody knows.
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In the internet we can read hundreds theories about electron
All of them are problematical
We can read hundreds books about philosophy of physics.
But how can we trust them if we don’t know what electron is ?
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Quote by Heinrich Hertz on Maxwell’s equations:

“One cannot escape the feeling that these mathematical formulae
have an independent existence and an intelligence of their own,
that they are wiser than we are, wiser even than their discoverers,
that we get more out of them than was originally put into them.”
And in 1904 Lorentz proved: there isn’t em waves without Electron
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Ladies and Gentlemen !
Friends !
Electron is not as simple as we think and, maybe, he is wiser than we are.
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Conclusion from some article:
One of the best kept secrets of science is
that physicists have lost their grip on reality.
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Israel Sadovnik Socratus
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Posted: 22 January 2014 07:56 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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socratus - 22 January 2014 07:03 AM

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One of the best kept secrets of science is
that physicists have lost their grip on reality.
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What’s that mean?

CERN can be made to operate and perform amazing experiments.
This computer I’m on does some unbelievable and certainly for me un-understandable things inside of it as I stare at it’s surface and pound away on the keys.
Hubble takes some incredible images of real objects.
People get to leave the Earth and orbit our planet and return safely.
They managed to land that incredible Curiosity Lander on Mars and it’s buzz’n around like a trooper.
With fine and complex machines, geologist are able to map the evolution of minerals and life on this planet.

This list could go on for a long long time, bunt enough.

I’m confused “socratus”, what you are talking about.

What is “reality” ?

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Posted: 22 January 2014 07:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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Posted: 22 January 2014 01:15 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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socratus - 22 January 2014 07:03 AM

Conclusion from some article:
One of the best kept secrets of science is
that physicists have lost their grip on reality.

LOL

You can only have a firm grip when you think you know what you are holding.

The more you really know about what you think you are holding the less certain your grip becomes.

Reality is weird!  Only the stupid know what they don’t understand.

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Posted: 23 January 2014 07:58 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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In internet we can read 19,300,000 articles about Philosophy of Physics  
  ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_physics )
but how can we trust them if we don’t know what an Electron is ?
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Posted: 23 January 2014 09:38 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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socratus - 23 January 2014 07:58 AM

but how can we trust them if we don’t know what an Electron is ?
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by their success in making very complex instruments function properly?

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Posted: 23 January 2014 12:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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socratus - 23 January 2014 07:58 AM

In internet we can read 19,300,000 articles about Philosophy of Physics  
  ( http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Philosophy_of_physics )
but how can we trust them if we don’t know what an Electron is ?
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Don’t trust anything you read on any screen until you understand how the electrons did it.

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Posted: 24 January 2014 12:05 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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socratus - 23 January 2014 07:58 AM

but how can we trust them if we don’t know what an Electron is ?
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by their success in making very complex instruments function properly?

We have a geniuses technology and a comic philosophy.
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Posted: 24 January 2014 07:22 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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socratus - 24 January 2014 12:05 AM

We have a geniuses technology and a comic philosophy.
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Well you won’t get an argument from me there,
just gotta take a look at the mess we’ve made of the world.


But, I’m convinced an realistic appreciation, as in deep understanding, of the evolutionary processes that got us here,
would have done society much more good than understanding exactly what an electron is -
After all the sub-atomic is on the other side of the looking glass, one step beyond, so to speak.
And there’s reason to believe a “complete” understanding is beyond the Earth bound minds ability to comprehend.

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Posted: 24 January 2014 02:24 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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Reality is weird!  Only the stupid know what they don’t understand.

psik

That certainly explains your extensive knowledge on the 9/11 issue. Lol

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Posted: 24 January 2014 04:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Oh my….....need a little burn gel psik ?

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Posted: 24 January 2014 07:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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sine dues - 24 January 2014 04:01 PM

Oh my….....need a little burn gel psik ?

Nah, RW can believe I give a damn about him all he wants.

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Posted: 25 January 2014 01:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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” The most incomprehensible thing about the world is that it is comprehensible.”
        /  Albert Einstein /
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We have a geniuses technology ( as a comprehensible conception) )
and a comic philosophy ( as an incomprehensible thing) .
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Posted: 25 January 2014 01:28 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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The simple quantum particle electron has six ( 6 ) formulas:
+E=Mc^2 and -E=Mc^2 , E=h*f , e^2=ah*c,
E=-me^4/2h*^2= -13,6eV and E= ∞.
If we would try to bind them together ( kipping in the mind
* The Law of conservation and transformation of energy/ mass*)
then, maybe, we could understand what the simple electron is.
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Posted: 25 January 2014 10:57 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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Does the positron ‘excess’ really exist?
http://physicsworld.com/cws/article/news/2013/nov/27/does-the-positron-excess-really-exist

  Positron is an electron’s shadow like
” The entropy is only a shadow of energy”
/  Wilhelm Ostwald (the Nobel Prize in Chemistry 1909 ) /
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Posted: 27 January 2014 11:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I’m still trying to figure out why you keep posting vague assertions based on heavy duty physics topics I have a feeling you know very little about. What’s your point?

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