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Posted: 03 February 2014 10:18 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 31 ]
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highflyertoo - 03 February 2014 09:39 PM

Are you saying I can’t pass the AS preliminary test?

That’s exactly what I’m saying.  Prove me wrong! I’ll be glad to eat humble pie if I am wrong.

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Posted: 04 February 2014 09:48 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 32 ]
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Lois - 03 February 2014 10:18 PM
highflyertoo - 03 February 2014 09:39 PM

Are you saying I can’t pass the AS preliminary test?

That’s exactly what I’m saying.  Prove me wrong! I’ll be glad to eat humble pie if I am wrong.

Lois

Glad?

Since when did you become neutral?

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Posted: 04 February 2014 10:53 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 33 ]
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highflyertoo - 04 February 2014 09:48 AM
Lois - 03 February 2014 10:18 PM
highflyertoo - 03 February 2014 09:39 PM

Are you saying I can’t pass the AS preliminary test?

That’s exactly what I’m saying.  Prove me wrong! I’ll be glad to eat humble pie if I am wrong.

Lois

Glad?

Since when did you become neutral?

I’ve always been neutral. But I am a skeptic. I require hard, objective evidence before I will accept a claim. The way you have explained your claim here makes me very doubtful that you have anything to demonstrate. This leads me to doubt you have a machine, whatever you call it, or that you will submit it to the Australian Skeptics for their assessment. If you should go so far as to submit it, I can’t imagine them saying you have created a machine that does what you say it does, which would mean it breaks all the rules of modern physics. But if you are so sure you have created this machine, and it works as you claim, then submit it to the Australian Skeptics or directly to JREF if you can.  I would be very interested to know what comes of it. I have never said I can’t be wrong. My prediction about your device is based on many years of looking at such claims skeptically. But I am willing to admit that my doubts are misplaced if you can show me objective evidence that they are. The ball is in your court, not mine.

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Posted: 04 February 2014 11:00 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 34 ]
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Lois - 04 February 2014 10:53 AM
highflyertoo - 04 February 2014 09:48 AM
Lois - 03 February 2014 10:18 PM
highflyertoo - 03 February 2014 09:39 PM

Are you saying I can’t pass the AS preliminary test?

That’s exactly what I’m saying.  Prove me wrong! I’ll be glad to eat humble pie if I am wrong.

Lois

Glad?

Since when did you become neutral?

I’ve always been neutral. But I am a skeptic. I require hard, objective evidence before I will accept a claim. The way you have explained your claim here makes me very doubtful that you have anything to demonstrate. This leads me to doubt you have a machine, whatever you call it, or that you will submit it to the Australian Skeptics for their assessment. If you should go so far as to submit it, I can’t imagine them saying you have created a machine that does what you say it does, which would mean it breaks all the rules of modern physics. But if you are so sure you have created this machine, and it works as you claim, then submit it to the Australian Skeptics or directly to JREF if you can.  I would be very interested to know what comes of it. I have never said I can’t be wrong. My prediction about your device is based on many years of looking at such claims skeptically. But I am willing to admit that my doubts are misplaced if you can show me objective evidence that they are. The ball is in your court, not mine.

Lois

It does n’t break the laws of modern or prehistoric physics.

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Posted: 04 February 2014 11:27 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 35 ]
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Guys, I think highflyertoo is just having fun with you. Probably enjoys the attention. He consistently just makes simplistic little “I can do it” statements without the slightest discussion to back his claim up. At least that other guy who claimed to have built something in a room explained what he did, his background, etc. Highflyer, if you’re afraid someone here will steal your idea, then at least say as much.  And I for one will promise right here that I won’t steal your idea. Let’s have it…some details.

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Posted: 04 February 2014 07:14 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 36 ]
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Highflyertoo is wrong both ways.  If it doesn’t break the laws of physics it obviously doesn’t work, no matter what he says.  If it does break the laws of physics, then it obviously can’t work.  He’s wrong no matter what gimmick he tries to offer.

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Posted: 04 February 2014 07:49 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 37 ]
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highflyertoo - 04 February 2014 11:00 AM

It doesn’t break the laws of modern or prehistoric physics.

There is no such thing as ‘modern’ or ‘prehistoric’ physics. There is only physics.

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Posted: 04 February 2014 08:06 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 38 ]
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Occam. - 04 February 2014 07:14 PM

Highflyertoo is wrong both ways.  If it doesn’t break the laws of physics it obviously doesn’t work, no matter what he says.  If it does break the laws of physics, then it obviously can’t work.  He’s wrong no matter what gimmick he tries to offer.

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Posted: 04 February 2014 08:09 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 39 ]
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highflyertoo - 04 February 2014 11:00 AM

It doesn’t break the laws of modern or prehistoric physics.

There is no such thing as ‘modern’ or ‘prehistoric’ physics. There is only physics.

Hey why are you telling me that for?

Please check up on what Lois said in post 33 ‘‘rules of modern physics’‘........

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Posted: 05 February 2014 12:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 40 ]
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asanta - 04 February 2014 07:49 PM
highflyertoo - 04 February 2014 11:00 AM

It doesn’t break the laws of modern or prehistoric physics.

There is no such thing as ‘modern’ or ‘prehistoric’ physics. There is only physics.

That"s true, but there is a modern understanding of physics. Current knowledge. Physics doesn’t change but our understanding of it does.

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Posted: 05 February 2014 05:34 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 41 ]
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Lois - 05 February 2014 12:48 PM
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highflyertoo - 04 February 2014 11:00 AM

It doesn’t break the laws of modern or prehistoric physics.

There is no such thing as ‘modern’ or ‘prehistoric’ physics. There is only physics.

That"s true, but there is a modern understanding of physics. Current knowledge. Physics doesn’t change but our understanding of it does.

Lois

You are still trying to correct me for something I never said in the manner you tried to make out in the first place….... Go to the other person and lecture them about it wink

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Posted: 05 February 2014 10:00 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 42 ]
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highflyertoo - 05 February 2014 05:34 PM
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highflyertoo - 04 February 2014 11:00 AM

It doesn’t break the laws of modern or prehistoric physics.

There is no such thing as ‘modern’ or ‘prehistoric’ physics. There is only physics.

That"s true, but there is a modern understanding of physics. Current knowledge. Physics doesn’t change but our understanding of it does.

Lois

You are still trying to correct me for something I never said in the manner you tried to make out in the first place….... Go to the other person and lecture them about it wink

I was responding to Asanta. I wasn’t lecturing anyone.

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Posted: 05 February 2014 10:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 43 ]
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Lois - 05 February 2014 10:00 PM
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highflyertoo - 04 February 2014 11:00 AM

It doesn’t break the laws of modern or prehistoric physics.

There is no such thing as ‘modern’ or ‘prehistoric’ physics. There is only physics.

That"s true, but there is a modern understanding of physics. Current knowledge. Physics doesn’t change but our understanding of it does.

Lois

You are still trying to correct me for something I never said in the manner you tried to make out in the first place….... Go to the other person and lecture them about it wink

I was responding to Asanta. I wasn’t lecturing anyone.

Lois

Okay

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Posted: 06 February 2014 11:47 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 44 ]
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Lois - 05 February 2014 12:48 PM
asanta - 04 February 2014 07:49 PM

There is no such thing as ‘modern’ or ‘prehistoric’ physics. There is only physics.

That"s true, but there is a modern understanding of physics. Current knowledge. Physics doesn’t change but our understanding of it does.
Lois

True, but he stated it as if the rules of physics changed over time, instead of our evolving understanding.

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Posted: 07 February 2014 01:50 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 45 ]
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asanta - 06 February 2014 11:47 PM
Lois - 05 February 2014 12:48 PM
asanta - 04 February 2014 07:49 PM

There is no such thing as ‘modern’ or ‘prehistoric’ physics. There is only physics.

That"s true, but there is a modern understanding of physics. Current knowledge. Physics doesn’t change but our understanding of it does.
Lois

True, but he stated it as if the rules of physics changed over time, instead of our evolving understanding.

‘‘If’‘.........................?........ Why do you people enforce the knowledge while still using the weight of if?......... You sound like a religion who gives revelation while still claiming ‘‘no revelation’’ as a GET OUT….......... lol lol lol lol lol

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