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Posted: 08 February 2014 10:59 AM   [ Ignore ]
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So we got fools like me going around trying to encourage folks to take their planet seriously.

And this is the mentality we are faced with
http://thefederalist.com/2014/01/09/a-reddit-gun-lover-has-a-hilarious-present-for-anti-gun-mother-jones/

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Posted: 08 February 2014 06:26 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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I think it’s an example of people having too much time on their hands, but nothing to get depressed over.

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Posted: 13 February 2014 07:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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The biggest gun nut I’ve ever known turned out to be a pedophile…not saying there’s a clear link, but you have to wonder about the mentality of people who are so obsessed with death. And guns are only really good for killing things.

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Posted: 13 February 2014 08:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Fuzzy Logic - 13 February 2014 07:10 PM

The biggest gun nut I’ve ever known turned out to be a pedophile…not saying there’s a clear link, but you have to wonder about the mentality of people who are so obsessed with death. And guns are only really good for killing things.

Your anecdotal evidence makes you the expert then. oh oh

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Posted: 14 February 2014 12:26 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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citizenschallenge.pm - 08 February 2014 10:59 AM

So we got fools like me going around trying to encourage folks to take their planet seriously.

Keep going, we need to wake up. The UK is half under water (nearly true).

Things don’t need to get much worse for people to start migrating to escape and then all hell will break loose, horrifically affecting our children, if not us.

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Posted: 14 February 2014 06:24 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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IMO one of the major problems we face in this country re. AGW denial is the publicity generated by fossil fuel companies and wealthy investors who stand to lose tremendous profits. For example, Last year Exonmobil spent 19 million on PR aimed to convince the general public that their “product” had no impact on the climate. Likewise the Koch brothers are pumping money into think tanks designed to dupe the public by innuendos and out right lies, e.g. Antarctica is actually gaining ice! They’re also counting on the credulous to believe them and why not? How many people do you know who read “peer reviewed” articles? How many people even know or study economics and how we are tied to the international marketplace? Not many I’d suspect. we were raised on the concept of self reliance and self concern. Americans value our self independence over all and that concept ties us to the ideal of a free market economy and small government, the hallmarks of the Tea Party platform. Laissez Faire economics in other words. I got mine, you get yours and to hell with global warming. It’ll all work out somehow, “coal is clean”, “oil is abundant”, “there’s plenty of water”, “the ice caps aren’t melting”, and “the cancer rate is down”. Business as usual.

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Posted: 14 February 2014 03:32 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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mid atlantic - 13 February 2014 08:16 PM
Fuzzy Logic - 13 February 2014 07:10 PM

The biggest gun nut I’ve ever known turned out to be a pedophile…not saying there’s a clear link, but you have to wonder about the mentality of people who are so obsessed with death. And guns are only really good for killing things.

Your anecdotal evidence makes you the expert then. oh oh

At my own experience I am, and the facts indicate that the kind of gun culture present in the US has some pretty negative consequences. Isn’t it something like 30,000 people killed by guns there every year, most nations would think that was an ongoing catastrophe on the scale of a major war.

I’ve owned guns and don’t think that alone is the sign of being mentally imbalanced, but people who base a large part of their identity on having their weapons and how intimidated their neighbours are as a result as this guy did have no business owning firearms IMO.

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Posted: 14 February 2014 11:35 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Fuzzy Logic - 14 February 2014 03:32 PM

At my own experience I am, and the facts indicate that the kind of gun culture present in the US has some pretty negative consequences. Isn’t it something like 30,000 people killed by guns there every year, most nations would think that was an ongoing catastrophe on the scale of a major war.

 

Yep.

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Posted: 15 February 2014 01:42 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 8 ]
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Fuzzy Logic - 14 February 2014 03:32 PM

At my own experience I am, and the facts indicate that the kind of gun culture present in the US has some pretty negative consequences. Isn’t it something like 30,000 people killed by guns there every year, most nations would think that was an ongoing catastrophe on the scale of a major war.

Well, there is an ongoing catastrophe in the US; in regards to gang related killings. Although, many of the 30.000 or so gun deaths are suicides.

but people who base a large part of their identity on having their weapons and how intimidated their neighbours are as a result as this guy did have no business owning firearms IMO.

True enough.

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Posted: 15 February 2014 04:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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mid atlantic - 08 February 2014 06:26 PM

I think it’s an example of people having too much time on their hands, but nothing to get depressed over.

Nothing to get depressed over? You must be kidding!

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Posted: 15 February 2014 04:33 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 10 ]
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Fuzzy Logic - 14 February 2014 03:32 PM
mid atlantic - 13 February 2014 08:16 PM
Fuzzy Logic - 13 February 2014 07:10 PM

The biggest gun nut I’ve ever known turned out to be a pedophile…not saying there’s a clear link, but you have to wonder about the mentality of people who are so obsessed with death. And guns are only really good for killing things.

Your anecdotal evidence makes you the expert then. oh oh

At my own experience I am, and the facts indicate that the kind of gun culture present in the US has some pretty negative consequences. Isn’t it something like 30,000 people killed by guns there every year, most nations would think that was an ongoing catastrophe on the scale of a major war.

I’ve owned guns and don’t think that alone is the sign of being mentally imbalanced, but people who base a large part of their identity on having their weapons and how intimidated their neighbours are as a result as this guy did have no business owning firearms IMO.

Would you control it? If so, how?

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Posted: 15 February 2014 07:01 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 11 ]
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Quoting MidAtlantic:

Although, many of the 30,000 or so gun deaths are suicides.

  Oh, so you figure that we should make it easy for an unhappy person who is depressed to kill him/herself?  If guns weren’t so available, many of them might get therapy and become decent, happy citizens. 

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Posted: 16 February 2014 01:54 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 12 ]
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Occam. - 15 February 2014 07:01 PM

Quoting MidAtlantic:

Although, many of the 30,000 or so gun deaths are suicides.

  Oh, so you figure that we should make it easy for an unhappy person who is depressed to kill him/herself?  If guns weren’t so available, many of them might get therapy and become decent, happy citizens. 

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I have mixed views on suicide, so maybe.

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Posted: 16 February 2014 01:57 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 13 ]
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Lois - 15 February 2014 04:30 AM
mid atlantic - 08 February 2014 06:26 PM

I think it’s an example of people having too much time on their hands, but nothing to get depressed over.

Nothing to get depressed over? You must be kidding!

Lois

Not kidding.

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Posted: 16 February 2014 11:04 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 14 ]
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My viewpoint as a Viet Nam vet on private ownership of weapons.  If you enable you are responsible.  If you want to quote the 2nd Amendment - the arms you have the “right to bear” are unrifled muzzle loading muskets that the founding fathers were referring to;  not modern day automatics or semi-automatics with their ranges of a mile or more. 

Why should I have to worry about the drunken gun owners two blocks over who gets mad at his wife and decides to fire a round or two his backyard.

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Posted: 16 February 2014 12:48 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 15 ]
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I tried to use the muzzle loading argument a while ago, and the pro-gun guy said, “If you want to ban techological advances, then you’d have to limit the First Amendment to the spoken word and old method printing.  Radio, Television, telephones, and the Internet statements wouldn’t be protected by the First Amendment.”  I dislike guns and think we should just have an amendment to eliminate the Second one, but, unfortunately, the muzzle loading argument doesn’t work.

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