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Posted: 08 April 2014 10:07 AM   [ Ignore ]
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Kate Mulgrew, an actress best known for her starring role as Capt. Kathryn Janeway in “Star Trek: Voyager,” is now stirring up scientific minds with her narration of a new documentary that touts something that was debunked 500 years ago: that the sun revolves around the Earth.

It doesn’t; it’s the opposite.

But as The Daily Mail reported, Ms. Mulgrew is now pushing the idea that the Earth moving around the sun is all wrong.

“Everything we think we know about our universe is wrong,” she says in the trailer for “The Principle,” a documentary that seeks to promote the disproven, sun-around-the-Earth notion.

The video is backed in part by Robert Sungenis, who runs the blog “Galileo Was Wrong,” The Daily Mail reported.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/8/kate-mulgrew-star-trek-star-gets-on-board-with-deb/

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Posted: 08 April 2014 11:02 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 1 ]
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psikeyhackr - 08 April 2014 10:07 AM

Kate Mulgrew, an actress best known for her starring role as Capt. Kathryn Janeway in “Star Trek: Voyager,” is now stirring up scientific minds with her narration of a new documentary that touts something that was debunked 500 years ago: that the sun revolves around the Earth.

It doesn’t; it’s the opposite.

But as The Daily Mail reported, Ms. Mulgrew is now pushing the idea that the Earth moving around the sun is all wrong.

“Everything we think we know about our universe is wrong,” she says in the trailer for “The Principle,” a documentary that seeks to promote the disproven, sun-around-the-Earth notion.

The video is backed in part by Robert Sungenis, who runs the blog “Galileo Was Wrong,” The Daily Mail reported.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/apr/8/kate-mulgrew-star-trek-star-gets-on-board-with-deb/

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It all depends on your reference point. If you’re on the earth, the earth revolves around the sun. Since most of us are on the earth (not counting the ones who are lost in space) , we see that the earth revolves around the sun. It’s our position in relation to the sun—relativity.
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Posted: 08 April 2014 11:30 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 2 ]
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From a friend who’s a physicist.


Einstein pointed out that there is no preferred observing system.
Therefore, to a person on the earth, the sun appears to revolve around the
earth.   To a person on the sun, the earth appears to revolve around the
sun.    

However, the equations are more simple if an inertial observing system is
used, e.g.  a rocket ship passing through space at a constant speed and
direction.     To that observer, the sun and earth appear to revolve around
their common Center Of Mass.    This is a point between the sun and earth.
Since the sun is so much more massive than the earth, the Center Of Mass is
actually inside the sun.    So the sun would appear to wobble as it rotates
around the Center Of Mass.   The earth also rotates around the Center Of
Mass.   If the person didn’t notice the small wobble of the sun, he would
think that the earth revolves around the sun.

Washington Times – highly partisan, anti science, right wing blather.  The Rev. Sun Moon’s newspaper.

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Posted: 08 April 2014 02:10 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 3 ]
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Lois - 08 April 2014 11:30 AM

From a friend who’s a physicist.

Einstein pointed out that there is no preferred observing system.
Therefore, to a person on the earth, the sun appears to revolve around the
earth.   To a person on the sun, the earth appears to revolve around the
sun.    

APPEARS and DOES

are two different things.

All you have to do is calculate what velocity the Sun would have to have to orbit the Earth in 24 hours at a distance of 93,000,000 miles.  24,347,322.5 mph.

What kind of gravitational field strength would the Earth have to have to make that occur?

We certainly would not be able to walk.

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Posted: 08 April 2014 02:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 4 ]
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Lois - 08 April 2014 11:30 AM

From a friend who’s a physicist.

Einstein pointed out that there is no preferred observing system.
Therefore, to a person on the earth, the sun appears to revolve around the
earth.   To a person on the sun, the earth appears to revolve around the
sun.    

APPEARS and DOES

are two different things.

All you have to do is calculate what velocity the Sun would have to have to orbit the Earth in 24 hours at a distance of 93,000,000 miles.  24,347,322.5 mph.

What kind of gravitational field strength would the Earth have to have to make that occur?

We certainly would not be able to walk.

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Yes, but for as long as humans inhabited the earth just about everyone thought the sun revolved around the earth. Not many people could make those kinds of calculations or had any interest in doing so. People assumed that what they saw was true—the sun moved across the sky. It rose in the east morning, spanned the sky and set in the evening in the west. What could be more obvious?  It took scientists to understand what was actually happening.  Most people were not educated in science or higher mathematics or thought that what they thought they saw might be wrong. The idea that the sun moved fit in perfectly with their lives and their ability to survive. It took a long time for people to realize that what appeared to be true may not be. Even after it was explained to them many people did not believe it, and even the Catholic church denied it for centuries because it contradicted the bible, and people believed what the church said.

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Posted: 08 April 2014 10:50 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 5 ]
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The trouble, if we use the earth as the center around which the sun revolves, is that all of the planets traverse weirdly wobbly orbits, and all of the stars and galaxies are also wobbling strangely around the earth.  Darron could explain this extremely well, if the stupid idea doesn’t make him too nauseated.  LOL

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Posted: 09 April 2014 12:20 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 6 ]
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What about the laws of physics? The earth doesn’t have the mass neccasary to hold the sun in its orbit.

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Posted: 09 April 2014 07:11 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 7 ]
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Handyman, that’s why we’ve only known the solar system is heliocentric for the last 500 years or so. The idea is much older than that, of course, going back to the ancient Greeks, but no one could prove it until Copernicus. We didn’t start uncovering the laws of physics until Newton.

As for Kate Mulgrew, she says she was duped into narrating the movie and would never have agreed to do so if she knew who was behind it.

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DarronS - 09 April 2014 07:11 AM

As for Kate Mulgrew, she says she was duped into narrating the movie and would never have agreed to do so if she knew who was behind it.

It must be The Borg!

Resistance is Futile!  LOL

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Posted: 09 April 2014 12:12 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 9 ]
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DarronS - 09 April 2014 07:11 AM

Handyman, that’s why we’ve only known the solar system is heliocentric for the last 500 years or so. The idea is much older than that, of course, going back to the ancient Greeks, but no one could prove it until Copernicus. We didn’t start uncovering the laws of physics until Newton.

As for Kate Mulgrew, she says she was duped into narrating the movie and would never have agreed to do so if she knew who was behind it.

So she will return all the money she was given for doing it, right?  That would be the moral thing to do.

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Lois - 09 April 2014 12:12 PM

So she will return all the money she was given for doing it, right?  That would be the moral thing to do.

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Either that or donate the money to a good cause, such as science education for children.

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