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When Did Astrology Columns Appear in Newspapers?
Posted: 28 October 2014 08:20 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 16 ]
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Lausten - 28 October 2014 05:12 PM

Here’s a related question. Pluto? Astrology was around forever, then we discover a new planet. How did they figure out how to incorporate it? Did they go back and redo everyone’s charts? Then it became not-planet again. Now what? Seems fishy to me.

From what I understand, astrology only uses the five planets visible to the naked eye.  The reason they were deemed to be special is that they wandered around relative to the other “fixed” stars.  That’s why they’re called “planets” in the first place, it’s Latin or Greek for “wandering star”.

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Posted: 28 October 2014 11:08 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 17 ]
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The most popular form of traditional Western astrology is sun sign astrology, the kind found in the horoscopes of many daily newspapers. A horoscope is an astrological forecast. The term is also used to describe a map of the zodiac at the time of one’s birth. The zodiac is divided into twelve zones of the sky, each named after the constellation that originally fell within its zone (Taurus, Leo, etc.). The apparent paths of the Sun, the Moon, and the major planets all fall within the zodiac. Because of the precession of the equinoxes, the equinox and solstice points have each moved westward about 30 degrees in the last 2,000 years. Thus, the zodiacal constellations named in ancient times no longer correspond to the segments of the zodiac represented by their signs. In short, had you been born at the same time on the same day of the year 2,000 years ago, you would have been born under a different sign.

In fact, there should be 13 signs, not 12.

Precession of the equinox is caused by the fact that the axis of the Earth’s rotation (which causes day and night) and the axis of the Earth’s revolution around the Sun (which marks the passage of each year) are not parallel. They are 23 1/2 degrees away from lining up; that is, the Earth’s axis of rotation is tilted. This tilt also causes our seasons, a fact that Ptolemy did understand but that many people do not understand even today. Ptolemy understood that the rotation axis of the Earth was slowly precessing, or moving in a circle, with an angular radius of 23 1/2 degrees with a period of around 26,000 years. He deduced this from comparisons of data taken by the ancient Sumerians 2,000 years before his time. He did not understand what was pushing the precession, but he did understand the motion. We now realize that the Sun is rotating with a period of around 30 days and that this causes the Sun to bulge at the equator, which causes a torque to be exerted on the top like motion of the Earth’s day and night cycle. There is also a small 18.6-year variation caused by the Moon’s orbit around the Earth, and the Moon also has a small effect on precession; however, the Sun’s equatorial bulge is the main cause of the precession of the equinox, which is why your sign listed in the newspaper, by Sidney Omar for instance, in most cases is removed by one sign from the modern, actual position of the Sun at your birth.

The modern signs as listed here are further complicated when their boundaries are those of the current constellations. A neater way of dividing the signs would be to divide the ecliptic into 30-degree slices, as Ptolemy did, but to keep the slices centered on the star patterns. This would make the time interval for the signs more nearly 30 days each and eliminate the [13th] sign of Ophiuchus [off ee oo’ kus], but your modern sign would still differ by one sign from the tradition designations.


http://skepdic.com/astrology.html

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Posted: 28 October 2014 11:16 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 18 ]
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Removed because of duplication.

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Posted: 28 October 2014 11:42 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 19 ]
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Thanks Lois for that interesting information.  Placed it in my reference library.

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Posted: 29 October 2014 06:18 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 20 ]
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LoisL - 28 October 2014 12:08 PM
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mid atlantic - 22 October 2014 08:54 AM

I suspect when publishers realized many women read newspapers, horoscopes became more commonly published in them.

Misogyny doesn’t suit you. On the other hand, maybe it does.

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Unless it’s true that women tend to read horoscopes. Jumping to a conclusion that mid atlantic is being misogynistic just because he said something you don’t like is being um, man-hating, whatever the term is.

The term is “reasonable.”

That more women than men read horoscopes means nothing. More men than women watch sports. Does that tell anything about their intellect? Both are merely entertainment. That’s all they are. But check out sometime the amount of newspaper space given to sports and compare it to the amount of space given to horoscopes. We don’t see pages of “Horoscope Sections” in every newspaper,  to say nothing of the hours of mindless sports coverage on television and radio every day.

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This is a typically female response, and it’s good proof of why women will always be in the back seat of any intellectual endeavour.

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Posted: 29 October 2014 06:59 PM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 21 ]
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mid atlantic - 29 October 2014 06:18 AM
LoisL - 28 October 2014 12:08 PM
CuthbertJ - 23 October 2014 10:30 AM
LoisL - 22 October 2014 08:24 PM
mid atlantic - 22 October 2014 08:54 AM

I suspect when publishers realized many women read newspapers, horoscopes became more commonly published in them.

Misogyny doesn’t suit you. On the other hand, maybe it does.

Lois

Unless it’s true that women tend to read horoscopes. Jumping to a conclusion that mid atlantic is being misogynistic just because he said something you don’t like is being um, man-hating, whatever the term is.

The term is “reasonable.”

That more women than men read horoscopes means nothing. More men than women watch sports. Does that tell anything about their intellect? Both are merely entertainment. That’s all they are. But check out sometime the amount of newspaper space given to sports and compare it to the amount of space given to horoscopes. We don’t see pages of “Horoscope Sections” in every newspaper,  to say nothing of the hours of mindless sports coverage on television and radio every day.

Lois

This is a typically female response, and it’s good proof of why women will always be in the back seat of any intellectual endeavour.

You have made my point for me. If your post is any example, men are women’s intellectual inferiors and you have proven it nicely. Thanks.

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Posted: 30 October 2014 03:47 AM   [ Ignore ]   [ # 22 ]
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mid atlantic - 29 October 2014 06:18 AM

This is a typically female response, and it’s good proof of why women will always be in the back seat of any intellectual endeavour.

mid atlantic, Rule 3(f) is against abuse, which includes sexism. This matter is under discussion with the Mods. Meanwhile any continued posting that leads to rule violations may lead to banning.

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